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Celeb News: Fernando Garibay talks Madonna; Gaga DOES get paid
Member Since: 7/22/2010
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
That doesn't make sense though.....you don't have to pay the artist you're covering if you're doing it live and not selling the recording. Every artist covers songs but doesn't have to pay royalties.
This seems like false tea to me.
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...You definitely do get royalties when songs are played live. Google "Performance Rights Organizations."
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by Swag
It is good to know they are getting some money, which of course Madonna has plenty, but yes it is indeed funny that some people that stan a twenty something pop star are bothered by what a fifty-something pop star does. It is somewhat transparent in a way.
I am personally glad that when Madonna was twenty something her fans could focus solely on her achievements and did not have to spend most of their time feeling somewhat threatened by an older pop star.
Madonna, at that age, was the biggest thing in female pop and there was no one that could dispute that assessment. This makes evident how different Madonna's path has been compared to the path of other pop stars, and how big and indisputable her impact was right from the start.
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How many times can you say the same thing? You're not even addressing the topic of discussion.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Monster
Out of this entire mess Madge has created, she's certainly not the one winning by the looks of it.
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I disagree, given the level of publicity other fanbases are giving her lately.
I would even go further and state that this is the first time in pop history when an artist has been promoted as much by a fanbase of another artist. That, my boy, is only the product of a true business genius.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Monster
How many times can you say the same thing? You're not even addressing the topic of discussion.
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It's the first time I give those statements my boy and if you read carefully you can notice I adress the topic of discussion in my first paragraph. I repeat: I am glad this got cleared out and that Fernando Garibay is receiving royalties.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by Swag
I disagree, given the level of publicity other fanbases are giving her lately.
I would even go further and state that this is the first time in pop history when an artist has been promoted as much by a fanbase of another artist. That, my boy, is only the product of a true business genius.
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Your level of delusion is frightening.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Some of the responses. The shade was never ~flawless~, and some people can't accept that. But I'm glad Gaga is getting paid, maybe that'll quiet things down a bit.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by Twai
...You definitely do get royalties when songs are played live. Google "Performance Rights Organizations."
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As a performer, you do not have to pay performance royalties. These are paid by the venue which hired you to perform. However, if you record your show and sell it as a live album, you will need to pay for the compulsory licenses, discussed later in this article.
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http://www.musicianwages.com/the-wor...g-cover-songs/
Many times artists will just randomly play songs by other artists or parts of them without planning previously. Smashing Pumpkins performed a verse of Britney's Piece of Me last year, they didn't pay anything. Bruce has covered a huge amount of songs and he never paid for it unless he released the live recording for sale somewhere. We don't know yet if Madonna plans to include this performance on the DVD or any telecast so we can't speculate. But as it stands now as just a live performance, she ain't paying ****.
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Member Since: 7/12/2009
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
http://www.musicianwages.com/the-wor...g-cover-songs/
Many times artists will just randomly play songs by other artists or parts of them without planning previously. Smashing Pumpkins performed a verse of Britney's Piece of Me last year, they didn't pay anything. Bruce has covered a huge amount of songs and he never paid for it unless he released the live recording for sale somewhere. We don't know yet if Madonna plans to include this performance on the DVD or any telecast so we can't speculate. But as it stands now as just a live performance, she ain't paying ****.
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The venue pays them, which is a cost. Which means less profit from the tour
Is it so hard to understand?
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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Originally posted by Swag
I disagree, given the level of publicity other fanbases are giving her lately.
I would even go further and state that this is the first time in pop history when an artist has been promoted as much by a fanbase of another artist. That, my boy, is only the product of a true business genius.
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On the opposite side of the token, Britney and Madonna stans have been promoting Gaga since Poker Face. I'm not trying to deny the fact that the monsters have been promoting Madonna, but I don't think that it's the first time in pop history.
As far as the thread topic, Yay. Go Gaga. She's getting money. Go Madonna. She's expressing herself.
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Member Since: 7/12/2009
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Originally posted by Swag
I disagree, given the level of publicity other fanbases are giving her lately.
I would even go further and state that this is the first time in pop history when an artist has been promoted as much by a fanbase of another artist. That, my boy, is only the product of a true business genius.
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Kiiiiiii this post made my day today.
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Member Since: 11/7/2011
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
http://www.musicianwages.com/the-wor...g-cover-songs/
Many times artists will just randomly play songs by other artists or parts of them without planning previously. Smashing Pumpkins performed a verse of Britney's Piece of Me last year, they didn't pay anything. Bruce has covered a huge amount of songs and he never paid for it unless he released the live recording for sale somewhere. We don't know yet if Madonna plans to include this performance on the DVD or any telecast so we can't speculate. But as it stands now as just a live performance, she ain't paying ****.
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Read the rest.
As a performer, you do not have to pay performance royalties. These are paid by the venue which hired you to perform. However, if you record your show and sell it as a live album, you will need to pay for the compulsory licenses, discussed later in this article.
Which means, this is an extra cost, that means, the royalties are probably bundled into the ticket price (the same thing that happened with MDNA first week sales). So you guys, madonna fans, are paying for the shade. Good.
And Madonna will release a live album like she did with the SS tour right? Gaga getting money from the fans and from the singer. Excellent. Twai put this into the OP.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
http://www.musicianwages.com/the-wor...g-cover-songs/
Many times artists will just randomly play songs by other artists or parts of them without planning previously. Smashing Pumpkins performed a verse of Britney's Piece of Me last year, they didn't pay anything. Bruce has covered a huge amount of songs and he never paid for it unless he released the live recording for sale somewhere. We don't know yet if Madonna plans to include this performance on the DVD or any telecast so we can't speculate. But as it stands now as just a live performance, she ain't paying ****.
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Somebody always pays them. Madonna may not pay directly, but the Concert Promotor certainly is. If I put on my own show in my backyard covering other people's songs, technically I should pay royalties to BMI and ASCAP. Practically, the organizations can't enforce that though.
From BMI's webpage:
Pop Concerts
BMI uses an independent source of live pop concert information to identify and create a database of the top 300 concert tours and/or concert events/festivals each quarter. Set lists are solicited from headliners and opening acts performing at those events. A royalty payment is then calculated for each BMI-licensed work performed at each event. This calculation is based upon the license fees collected from each licensed tour or event. Works performed as part of a medley by either a headliner or opening act will be paid at a rate equal to one half of the full rate. Since the number of BMI-licensed works changes from one quarter to the next, as do the license fees collected by BMI from concert promoters and venues, the royalty rate for your works performed in live pop concerts will also change each quarter.
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Member Since: 7/22/2010
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Originally posted by Andre
Read the rest.
As a performer, you do not have to pay performance royalties. These are paid by the venue which hired you to perform. However, if you record your show and sell it as a live album, you will need to pay for the compulsory licenses, discussed later in this article.
Which means, this is an extra cost, that means, the royalties are probably bundled into the ticket price (the same thing that happened with MDNA first week sales). So you guys, madonna fans, are paying for the shade. Good.
And Madonna will release a live album like she did with the SS tour right? Gaga getting money from the fans and from the singer. Excellent. Twai put this into the OP.
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I don't know how they can highlight that the venue pays the original artist, and claim that as proof that Garibay was lying when he said he gets money when Madonna performs the song
He never said Madonna personally wrote him a check, but every time she performs the song, Gaga and crew DO get paid.
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Member Since: 11/7/2011
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Originally posted by Twai
I don't know how they can highlight that the venue pays the original artist, and claim that as proof that Garibay was lying when he said he gets money when Madonna performs the song
He never said Madonna personally wrote him a check, but every time she performs the song, Gaga and crew DO get paid.
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Right.
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Member Since: 1/1/2012
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Well
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by Peep
The venue pays them, which is a cost. Which means less profit from the tour
Is it so hard to understand?
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How does that mean less profit from the tour? MADONNA is not paying anything.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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Who gives a **** anyways. If Madonna knew she had to pay and couldn't afford to pay then she wouldn't have. BUT it's Madonna and she could probably buy an island if she wanted to. It's not a big deal to her.
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Member Since: 9/7/2011
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
How does that mean less profit from the tour? MADONNA is not paying anything.
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Boy you're so stubborn. When a music piece is copyrighted the owner has every right under the Recording Act to state their conditions in their contracts and can do what they want with their music. Look at Prince. If her contract states that an artist needs to get a synch license to perform the song live then that artist/label has to pay up. Not all contracts are the same.
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Member Since: 11/7/2011
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
How does that mean less profit from the tour? MADONNA is not paying anything.
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She's not, the fans are.
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Member Since: 12/16/2011
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