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Discussion: Is Pop Music Empty?
Member Since: 2/19/2012
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People are only nostalgic for the past. I bet their are older people willing to say that ice ice baby is a better song than coundtown and the edge of glory 
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Sunderland 4ever
Since when does the belief that hip-hop and rock cannot be pop exist so strongly? Pop is basically the reduced form of "popular." ANYTHING can become popular.
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Originally posted by Stephen
This bothers me. So many members here think that pop music just means a girl working with a superproducer singing about love, sex, or being in the club. That's not what pop music is limited to.
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Because I think pop finally has a genre now. There was once a time when pop music was just that "popular music", but with the success of dance music that wasn't disco that happened in the 80's "pop" became its own genre, then of course everyone wanted to make those type of songs.
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Member Since: 8/23/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
BIG POINT!
All of those girls can sing each others albums without a single issue, but the same cannot be said for Beyonce, Gaga, or Florence for example.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
If you don't think there's anything wrong with a song that uses the syllables of one word for the entire chorus and has no emotional depth, or any kind of depth, to it then you are precisely why pop music is in the shitter today and EXACTLY what this article is talking about.
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It's a POP song, pop music for the most part has always been about catchy choruses and will continue to be that way, esp. when one is commercial. And the general public will continue to buy it like we've been doing. Period.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by Sunderland 4ever
The explanation can be pretty simple, though. During the 60's, rock music was just developing, same as rap and hip-hop (I'm not very into these genres, though, so starting from this point I will be more focused on rock.) People got bored with this peace-and-love, hippie music from the 60's, so they moved to something more powerful; metal and its subgenres were born. Popstars made their biggest impact during the 80's with Madonna, Michael Jackson and others. 90's was almost a perfect equilibrium between all kinds of genres, besides the fact that there were a lot of them. I believe after reaching this peak, it became way harder to come up with something new, explaining the lack of substance on not only pop music, but pretty much all music genres nowadays.
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But even if they don't do something new and innovative because "it's all been done before" they can at least draw inspiration from different places instead of all drawing inspiration from what was #1 just last week.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
I was talking to a friend's mom about Michael Jackson's impact in the 80's. She told me EVERYBODY would wait and crowd around the tv waiting for Thriller to premiere on MTV.
That's when pop music was interesting and exciting and there is no argument that Gaga brought that feeling back.
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I remember everyone crowding around the tv waiting for Telephone to premiere on E!. 
But yeah, she HAD that feeling with The Fame Monster, since then no.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by satellites™
Competitive how? Everyone racing to work with the hottest producer for a chart topper? Cause it sure is not competitive in critical acclaim, look how easy Adele came and impressed critics with an album that was basically average R&B breakup album sang by a European woman.
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I love Adele but this is pretty much true. With a little more melanin she'd be Melanie Fiona-status.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by TheEmancipation
People are only nostalgic for the past. I bet their are older people willing to say that ice ice baby is a better song than coundtown and the edge of glory |
Oh, I seriously doubt that, and '80s music (well, most of it) gets a lot of flack today.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
It's a POP song, pop music for the most part has always been about catchy choruses and will continue to be that way, esp. when one is commercial. And the general public will continue to buy it like we've been doing. Period.
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Pop music hasn't "always been" like that. That's exactly what the article is pointing out. Did you even read? 
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Even though I don't think GaGa is as interesting as she was when she debuted and her sound is nothing groundbreaking for pop music, I do wholeheartedly agree with this.
I think music in general is terrible. These are the same complaints I read from rap, R&B and rock fans about those genres.
Right. People aren't as interested in her as they were before.
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I think R&B is great and has been great for a while, mostly because its being ignored and the artists are really putting their time into the albums. R&B female singers are really delivering lately, Jill Scott, Marshia A, Jennifer Hudson, Jazmine Sullivan, Beyonce, Fantasia.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
BIG POINT!
All of those girls can sing each others albums without a single issue, but the same cannot be said for Beyonce, Gaga, or Florence for example.
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EXCELLENT POINT!!!!!
Also we need a male pop star that isn't JT or Usher cause if you ask me Usher was a sellout his last era. I'm just completely turned off by Usher
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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People always try to take pop too seriously. It's nothing more than some fun hooks and catchy tunes. Leave it that way.
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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Why are people so obssed with the word Generic on this forum 
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
BIG POINT!
All of those girls can sing each others albums without a single issue, but the same cannot be said for Beyonce, Gaga, or Florence for example.
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
Competitive how? Everyone racing to work with the hottest producer for a chart topper? Cause it sure is not competitive in critical acclaim, look how easy Adele came and impressed critics with an album that was basically average R&B breakup album sang by a European woman.
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Cept it's not R&B
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Member Since: 10/3/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
Because I think pop finally has a genre now. There was once a time when pop music was just that "popular music", but with the success of dance music that wasn't disco that happened in the 80's "pop" became its own genre, then of course everyone wanted to make those type of songs.
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I disagree. It it happens to be a new genre it would have to be disco or electronic music. The problem is... they are music genres already.
The same misunderstanding happens with the word 'indie' . It doesn't stand for one kind of music, but it's the reduction of the word independent. The problem is that its wrong definition has broadened so much amongst people that it's real definition is now not taken as the correct one.
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
People always try to take pop too seriously. It's nothing more than some fun hooks and catchy tunes. Leave it that way.
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1+ that's how it's always been. 
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
People always try to take pop too seriously. It's nothing more than some fun hooks and catchy tunes. Leave it that way.
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But it wasn't always and that's what this thread is about.
So if you don't like the discussion you can take they navy ship and sail out.
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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If people didn't like it they wouldn't be top of the charts so lets just move on.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
People always try to take pop too seriously. It's nothing more than some fun hooks and catchy tunes. Leave it that way.
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Pretty much. For the most part, pop music has never been substantial or meaningful. It's created for the masses and modeled after the lastest trends.
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