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Discussion: Real Queen of Pop?
Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by itsJAMESbitch
90% of britneys acheivements are from her debut and then like 2 or 3 years later. just not queen of pop worthy to me if you basically give a big **** you to everything you worked for
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Seeing that most of her biggest awards, #1s, top 10s and better reviewed albums and branding ventures that made the most money after 2004, I'm gonna have to disagree.
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
Posts: 2,188
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Originally posted by Mole
So the achievements don't count because they were early in her career? That's completely logical  |
when did i say they don't count? i thought it was clear what i meant.
it's not enough to be considered a queen or a serious legend when you start strong and then basically dwindle down to a singles artist and a touring act like she is now.
PLUS her performances and artistry and basically EVERYTHING she is now is a complete **** you to her legacy from when she first came out. you can't really deny that.
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Member Since: 3/16/2011
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Originally posted by Knix
You've just embarassed yourself, Stop it.
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No im serious i dont see how her music can be considered pop, its r&b for me.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by MrHiphy
You can't be serious?
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His delusion is just ... 
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
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Originally posted by cheap
why is beyonce discussed here? she is r&b, even wikipedia agrees.
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I could change that for you, if you want.
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Seeing that most of her biggest awards, #1s, top 10s and better reviewed albums and branding ventures that made the most money after 2004, I'm gonna have to disagree.
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hit songs with weak album sales.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Seeing that most of her biggest awards, #1s, top 10s and better reviewed albums and branding ventures that made the most money after 2004, I'm gonna have to disagree.
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Billboard Female of the Decade went to who again?
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Member Since: 3/16/2011
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Originally posted by La Musique
I could change that for you, if you want. |
change it, it'll go back to r&b and u will get banned if u do it again.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
Are you kidding me?
The dances Beyonce did in RTW Britney couldn't lift her stiff leg high enough to do.
Don't go there.
There's no such thing as a fake choreographer.
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I never said there was... but there is a difference between someone who hold and 8-count then someone who just had a baby and can walk into the studio and put her leg over her head.
Speaking of which, when is Beyonce ever gonna put her leg over her head, drop into the splits of do a backflip?
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Member Since: 10/26/2010
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Originally posted by cheap
No im serious i dont see how her music can be considered pop, its r&b for me.
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Well in reality it has been pop.
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Member Since: 6/14/2011
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How can someone even comparing Britney Spears to effing MADONNA. Madonna, the feminist icon, the innovator, the musical genius, the visionary. And you compare her to Britney fudging Spears. and the worst part you guys are dead serious. 
I'm honestly not even a big Madonna fan like that even though I respect her for so many reasons, but damn. That's a slap in the face to her.
Britney Spears represents so many things that have to do with this generation, but musically, there is hardly anything to go by which in my opinion should be the #1 criteria when you're talking about the queen of a MUSIC genre for our generation. You guys need to stop. like, forreal.
Britney Spears is as much of a bubblegum pop artist today as she was 10 years ago. Granted, now with a more mature edge, but still. The comparison is laughable. Britney Spears didn't even take her career seriously for who knows how many years, no one even knows if she does now. She's not an ARTIST and therefore naming her "queen" of a genre is, in fact, an outrage.
And Britney fans... please, PLEASE don't drag 10 year old sales into this AGAIN -__-
If you're gonna name someone Queen of anything they need to at least be consistent.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
Billboard Female of the Decade went to who again?
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That was based on opinion...
Realistically, Britney sold WAY more.
Rihanna had more #1s.
She was out-tour by a long list of artists.
Billboard gave it to the popular vote at the time... and that's true tea.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
I never said there was... but there is a difference between someone who hold and 8-count then someone who just had a baby and can walk into the studio and put her leg over her head.
Speaking of which, when is Beyonce ever gonna put her leg over her head, drop into the splits of do a backflip?
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She'll just use a stunt double like Britney has done
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Member Since: 12/2/2010
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I don't care that Beyonce is pop, rock, r&b, tree, glass or sun! Beyonce will never be the Queen of Pop. Queen of R&B Contemporary Music or Urban Pop, but not Queen of Pop.
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Member Since: 9/20/2009
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
I never said there was... but there is a difference between someone who hold and 8-count then someone who just had a baby and can walk into the studio and put her leg over her head.
Speaking of which, when is Beyonce ever gonna put her leg over her head, drop into the splits of do a backflip?
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So Briney's a cheerleader and not a dancer? Oh good, glad you cleared that up.
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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This is another thing. Britney stans vs Beyonce stans will you guys just quit. At the end of the day you guys do not agree with each other on terms of who would be a better Queen and performer. Never did never will. Nobody is going to convince someone and change there mind, so lets not.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by itsJAMESbitch
hit songs with weak album sales.
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Since when is platinum weak, sis?
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Techii
How can someone even comparing Britney Spears to effing MADONNA. Madonna, the feminist icon, the innovator, the musical genius, the visionary. And you compare her to Britney fudging Spears. and the worst part you guys are dead serious.
I'm honestly not even a big Madonna fan like that even though I respect her for so many reasons, but damn. That's a slap in the face to her.
Britney Spears represents so many things that have to do with this generation, but musically, there is hardly anything to go by which in my opinion should be the #1 criteria when you're talking about the queen of a MUSIC genre for our generation. You guys need to stop. like, forreal.
Britney Spears is as much of a bubblegum pop artist today as she was 10 years ago. Granted, now with a more mature edge, but still. The comparison is laughable. Britney Spears didn't even take her career seriously for who knows how many years, no one even knows if she does now. She's not an ARTIST and therefore naming her "queen" of a genre is, in fact, an outrage.
And Britney fans... please, PLEASE don't drag 10 year old sales into this AGAIN -__-
If you're gonna name someone Queen of anything they need to at least be consistent. |
Thank you. 
Lets hear about those FF receipts 
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
I wasn't throwing shade at anything, I just wanted to make sure that you all know that awards have a certain amount of clout, but album sales do to... and have 1 album that's sold more world wide than most people see in their career says enough... especially when you have 7 albums and they are all certified platinum but one... which has sold 1,000,000 by the way.
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Of course album sales do too, and speaking of album sales let's get into Beyoncé outselling Britney since her solo debut. You are throwing shade for filth, but I can do it too.
You seem to think numbers are the only factor in creating a Queen of Pop. That is nawt true. You can sit in the past all day if you want, but the present is showing me as 4 seems to have a hold on Femme Fatale.
Britney has numbers, and that is all. She HAD her skills as an entertainer, but she lost it. Beyoncé has numbers, all of her skills as a performer/vocalist/artist, respect from the industry, critical acclaim, prestigious awards, relevancy outside of music in multiple fields, etc etc. You're looking for the signs of Queen of Pop while I'm looking for the signs of a Legend. Beyoncé will go down as just that, so you can gladly crown Britney Queen of Pop. The Queen of "Pop" role is tired. Pop is a very limited genre and a bit of a joke when it comes to the others. It's always been looked at as bubblegum music filled with attractive women with little to no vocal talent, so Britney can gladly have the title.
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
That was based on opinion...
Realistically, Britney sold WAY more.
Rihanna had more #1s.
She was out-tour by a long list of artists.
Billboard gave it to the popular vote at the time... and that's true tea.
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weak tea 
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