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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
Most of the countries around it are far from being better, I agree. And this situation is nor the fault of the Jews born in Israel who now have developed a sense of belonging and deserve as much as the Palestinians to live there. The Jews bought lands in Israel prior to it being turned into a Jewish state and it should be their right to keep those lands, or to buy more lands if they want to occupy the space if the people who live there are willing to sell it. The jews were a minority for a very long time on the territory and while the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea and so on did exist it still is cruel to take people away from their homes just because that's where they were thousands of years ago. My point is, this so-called "historic" right is only the ideology they have recently developed to create a unified Jewish state. It bases itself on the fact that thousands of years ago they controlled the land there, that's like the US invading the UK because they used to be a British colony. Jews should have been protected and anti-semitism discouraged in western countries rather than just place the Jews far away from them (due to them being anti-semitic).
And while Israel has to defend itself from the threats it may face now that it exists, colonizing the land which was attributed to Palestine isn't they way to do it. It's forcibly taking land which isn't its' property, it isn't doing any good.
Why bring in the left here? Progressive views are the reason why we have countries like the Scandinavian countries today and why the Western and developed world lives well. Why try to demonize the left making it look like some anti-semitic organization when it features people both with and against Israel just like any other group because it is a complicated issue with no clear "right" or "wrong".
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Most Jewish people I know feel Israel as being their homeland because it is. Israel, and Jerusalem in particular, have historical, cultural and spiritual meaning for them, and it has nothing to do with a simple desire for land. Just as I am proud to be British, they are proud of be descendants of Israel.
Bringing the left into the argument is incredibly important. I didn't say progressivism or liberalism, I said leftism. Leftist politicians, like Jeremy Corbyn, would insist we need to be diplomatic with (as he says) 'our friends Hamas', completely disregarding the desire of Hamas to destroy Israel and kill all Jews worldwide. That is the problem with anti-Semitism on the left. Not to mention the fact that leftist media never reports anti-Semitic hate crimes, despite them being FAR more common than hate crimes against muslims.