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Celeb News: Marc Jacobs: "I don't see color or race, I see people."
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by hardbrit
Yet white girls can't have braids because it is cultural appropriation?
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I didn't see that anywhere in Toya's post...
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
Posts: 37,267
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Originally posted by Toya
I really only care about cultural appropriation if the culture is being disrespected so I don't really have a problem with this but I do have a problem with his ignorant ass comment basically saying that women of color can't have straight hair and his straight up LIE that he doesn't see color.
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Same. He was a mess for it.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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1. can we stop using WOC/MOC/POP as synonyms for black people. POC is anyone that is not white.
2. base on that his last sentence is moronic, cause more WOC have straight hair than curly hair.
3. Someone need to send him a few documentary and video explaining the situation cause we know he don't read anything that is not fashion magazines or Grindr accounts.
4. For other white people in this thread. No-one ( most people) are not saying him using braid/dread is wrong or white people wearing dread is wrong. There has been many Caucasian culture that braid their hair and such. Black woman straightened their hair cause society tell them their natural hair and their hairstyle are ugly, unacceptable, barbaric, uncivilized, unprofessional, Gettho, ratchet, and simply don't belong in White society. Black woman and man ( to certain) have told their was ugly by white society, fashion magazine, media for centuries. Black woman and black girls till this day are sent home, denied jobs, fired and make fun for their hairstyle.
cultural diffusion is huge part of human history in order for cultural diffusion and cultural appreciation to happen both side to respect and appreciate each other and give something in return. When oneside benefit at the expense of another and the other side is ridicule and bully it is not cultural appreciation or culture diffusion is just simple rape.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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1. can we stop using WOC/MOC/POP as synonyms for black people. POC is anyone that is not white.
2. base on that his last sentence is moronic, cause more WOC have straight hair than curly hair.
3. Someone need to send him a few documentary and video explaining the situation cause we know he don't read anything that is not fashion magazines or Grindr accounts.
4. For other white people in this thread. No-one ( most people) are not saying him using braid/dread is wrong or white people wearing dread is wrong. There has been many Caucasian culture that braid their hair and such. Black woman straightened their hair cause society tell them their natural hair and their hairstyle are ugly, unacceptable, barbaric, uncivilized, unprofessional, Gettho, ratchet, and simply don't belong in White society. Black woman and man ( to certain extent) have told their hair was ugly by white society, fashion magazine, media for centuries. Black woman and black girls till this day are sent home, denied jobs, fired and make fun for their hairstyle.
cultural diffusion is huge part of human history in order for cultural diffusion and cultural appreciation to happen both party has to respect and appreciate each other and give something in return. When one side and only one side benefit at the expense of another and the other side is ridicule and bully, it is not cultural appreciation or culture diffusion is just simply appropriation at the very least.
It cant be cultural appreciation/cultural diffusion whatever when atleast 95% of his model are white. If he truly wanted it to celebrate diversity he would have asian (southeast and etc), native american, latinos, black (american and african) , aboriginals and etc., if he truly practice and believe what he saying the model would have been 50% white and 50% WOC.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Leptine
It's funny because in my country a lot of women from Africa come in here in turistic localities or big cities and they make braids to white girls to earn money, I wonder what 'SJW' think about this.
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Idk you tell me. What should people think about black people profiting from black culture vs white peoples profitting from black culture?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 10,215
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Originally posted by Auraeolux
omg He even went the reverse racism route. We're all the human race teas.
People who choose to ignore microaggressions perpetuate oppression.
Lol at him pretending to be politically correct with "women of color straightening their hair" . Suddenly places like Asia dont exist? And some black people have naturally straight hair
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You missed point.
Not your fault tho, he could have just said "**** YOU ALL AND THIS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION BULLCRAP, THAT **** DOESN'T EXIST"!
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Member Since: 2/9/2012
Posts: 10,283
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I feel like someone called his runaway trash and now he's blaming sjw so he can feel better at himself, only to show his true colors
The fact that he got so bothered over few people comments too
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 7,633
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Stupid argument, he sounds like an idiot especially at his age
The boots from the collection are FIREEEEEEEEE though
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Member Since: 10/19/2011
Posts: 5,270
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Originally posted by Auraeolux
omg He even went the reverse racism route. We're all the human race teas.
People who choose to ignore microaggressions perpetuate oppression.
Lol at him pretending to be politically correct with "women of color straightening their hair" . Suddenly places like Asia dont exist? And some black people have naturally straight hair
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ugh so we have to be overly sensitive/walk on eggshells/be careful about everything around one particular race but can just be "normal" to everyone else? im so shocked that SJW even are heard, they should be ignored because they don't know anything about the real world. safe spaces and political correctness & treating black people like victims seems to be the norm. if no cultures were shared not a single artist would be relevant today, no fashion trend wouldve happened.. it would all stay in the same little city or country and people would be divided
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Originally posted by Javan
Idk you tell me. What should people think about black people profiting from black culture vs white peoples profitting from black culture?
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because there is no problem with that AT ALL. that's the point. if so many black people share their own culture with other races (not just white people, a lot of asians too) then how can ANYONE find fault in it? SJW just want to whine for the sake for attention and to feel smart, which they're not.
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Member Since: 10/19/2011
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Originally posted by nuclear
1. can we stop using WOC/MOC/POP as synonyms for black people. POC is anyone that is not white.
2. base on that his last sentence is moronic, cause more WOC have straight hair than curly hair.
3. Someone need to send him a few documentary and video explaining the situation cause we know he don't read anything that is not fashion magazines or Grindr accounts.
4. For other white people in this thread. No-one ( most people) are not saying him using braid/dread is wrong or white people wearing dread is wrong. There has been many Caucasian culture that braid their hair and such. Black woman straightened their hair cause society tell them their natural hair and their hairstyle are ugly, unacceptable, barbaric, uncivilized, unprofessional, Gettho, ratchet, and simply don't belong in White society. Black woman and man ( to certain extent) have told their hair was ugly by white society, fashion magazine, media for centuries. Black woman and black girls till this day are sent home, denied jobs, fired and make fun for their hairstyle.
cultural diffusion is huge part of human history in order for cultural diffusion and cultural appreciation to happen both party has to respect and appreciate each other and give something in return. When one side and only one side benefit at the expense of another and the other side is ridicule and bully, it is not cultural appreciation or culture diffusion is just simply appropriation at the very least.
It cant be cultural appreciation/cultural diffusion whatever when atleast 95% of his model are white. If he truly wanted it to celebrate diversity he would have asian (southeast and etc), native american, latinos, black (american and african) , aboriginals and etc., if he truly practice and believe what he saying the model would have been 50% white and 50% WOC.
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finally a proper answer, but how do you know 95% of his models are white? is that a fact or did you just say it out of assumption?
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Rama
Americans and their 'cultural appropriation'
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Right? Americans seem to really love segregation.
Most of people in the world would be honored to have their local culture influencing foreign people.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by wanderlust
ugh so we have to be overly sensitive/walk on eggshells/be careful about everything around one particular race but can just be "normal" to everyone else? im so shocked that SJW even are heard, they should be ignored because they don't know anything about the real world. safe spaces and political correctness & treating black people like victims seems to be the norm. if no cultures were shared not a single artist would be relevant today, no fashion trend wouldve happened.. it would all stay in the same little city or country and people would be divided
because there is no problem with that AT ALL. that's the point. if so many black people share their own culture with other races (not just white people, a lot of asians too) then how can ANYONE find fault in it? SJW just want to whine for the sake for attention and to feel smart, which they're not.
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There is a problem. He is a white man profiting off of black culture while using any black peoples in his show. That's erasure and exploitation.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by wanderlust
ugh so we have to be overly sensitive/walk on eggshells/be careful about everything around one particular race but can just be "normal" to everyone else? im so shocked that SJW even are heard, they should be ignored because they don't know anything about the real world. safe spaces and political correctness & treating black people like victims seems to be the norm. if no cultures were shared not a single artist would be relevant today, no fashion trend wouldve happened.. it would all stay in the same little city or country and people would be divided
because there is no problem with that AT ALL. that's the point. if so many black people share their own culture with other races (not just white people, a lot of asians too) then how can ANYONE find fault in it? SJW just want to whine for the sake for attention and to feel smart, which they're not.
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Is it really that hard to be sensitive to the struggles of another person?
Statements like this come off sounding incredibly privileged and apathetic of real issues.
The issue is not in over-sensitivity, but in people’s lack of it. We may get to a place where we can swap everything easily because no one is marginalized but until then we need to be mindful and speak up about where issues are.
It’s ridiculous to say there is no problem at all. Wake up. Seriously. WAKE UP. This is not hard to grasp.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Only people who refuse to acknowledge the privilege that they have and/or the racism that they convey themselves say that.
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Originally posted by Morissette
He "doesn't see color" yet all the models are white or white passing. Bye racist. Pure ignorance for not understanding why "women of color" have to give into eurocentric beauty standards.
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do you also have a problem with kanye only using black models?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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it's like Miley's Bangers era and Artpop threw up and had a baby
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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He is right. And also what if he wanted white people on dreads for the runway? Does that make it racist or what?
There is runways with just black girls or asian girls because that's the damn vision of the designer, don't be dramatic
Also, cute news: dreads were not invented by Black people alone, like I'm dead at twitter and tumblr thinking that it was invented and it's owned by just one culture... anyway
the designs are awful anyway lmao
edit: that comment about straightening the hair is a mess too lmao
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Leptine
It's funny because in my country a lot of women from Africa come in here in turistic localities or big cities and they make braids to white girls to earn money, I wonder what 'SJW' think about this.
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i also read that since Kimonos are becoming less popular in japan, the designers want foreign people to buy their kimonos our they'll go out of business. i can't believe SJWs are hurting the people they have sworn to protect
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