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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#1)
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
And don't forget stupid mainstream media too, i.e: gossip sites.
Jason Aldean fans? lol. He's a joke. Really. I feel bad for his fans.
Now, I need to know that guy you talked about! I think us three can be a very good friends. lol. I'm a hardcore indie fan too, I guess most of you guys knew this already based on how much I love to bash mainstream music.
I pray this 4th album will be great enough and Pitchfork will review it, hopefully they'll give 8.0+ review (IF they do review it in the future). So that we can have the strongest here-in-your-face slam to those brainless mainstreamers.
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Yeah I don't like the media that much either but I normally find more positive than negative stuff about her
And its a guy named Marty Fine he got banned or something from facebook idk why
About pitchfork is that like mediacritic because some of the reviews on mediacritic make me think the person reviewing didn't even hear the album lol I saw two reviews that were barely a sentence long and very low scores. Without them she would have had an 80 probably
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
Yeah I don't like the media that much either but I normally find more positive than negative stuff about her
And its a guy named Marty Fine he got banned or something from facebook idk why
About pitchfork is that like mediacritic because some of the reviews on mediacritic make me think the person reviewing didn't even hear the album lol I saw two reviews that were barely a sentence long and very low scores. Without them she would have had an 80 probably
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I can appreciate great mainstream act, but the problem is today's mainstream are full of bad & overhyped ****.
Ah, that's too bad. You know, I'd like to get some suggestion from him, cause he sounds like he has a great taste in music.
Nope, Pitchfork has never reviewed her albums. But they did included 'You Belong With Me' to their top 100 songs in 2009. And never said bad thing about her as far as I know. Besides, their reviews mostly are written with the eng-lit. level. Pitchfork = the god of music critic webs.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
I can appreciate great mainstream act, but the problem is today's mainstream are full of bad & overhyped ****.
Ah, that's too bad. You know, I'd like to get some suggestion from him, cause he sounds like he has a great taste in music.
Nope, Pitchfork has never reviewed her albums. But they did included 'You Belong With Me' to their top 100 songs in 2009. And never said bad thing about her as far as I know. Besides, their reviews mostly are written with the eng-lit. level. Pitchfork = the god of music critic webs.
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I don't know about his taste but he is very informed of the past and present music scene and I assume he probably studied music for a living or something like that. Right now his wife or what I assume to be his wife since they have the same last name has taken over for him however she isn't as informed as he is and sometimes makes up a couple things lol but she's pretty smart too.
About the mainstream idk much about who was mainstream in the past but many acts from the 60s-70s are just as bad as what we have now. I remember the Who having only one top 10 hit. I assume that alot of the people we know for being legends actually didn't have good starts in fact my grandpa told me that the Dave Clark 5 was actually a bigger group than the beatles for some time but I don't think many people know that group I know I didn't know them before he told me. I think alot of the acts of today will stop selling 20-30 years from now and some very talented groups who had only minor hits will be selling very well and getting a ton of recurrent airplay.
I'll have to check out this pitchfork too I think I'll find some very talented artists through it
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
I don't know about his taste but he is very informed of the past and present music scene and I assume he probably studied music for a living or something like that. Right now his wife or what I assume to be his wife since they have the same last name has taken over for him however she isn't as informed as he is and sometimes makes up a couple things lol but she's pretty smart too.
About the mainstream idk much about who was mainstream in the past but many acts from the 60s-70s are just as bad as what we have now. I remember the Who having only one top 10 hit. I assume that alot of the people we know for being legends actually didn't have good starts in fact my grandpa told me that the Dave Clark 5 was actually a bigger group than the beatles for some time but I don't think many people know that group I know I didn't know them before he told me. I think alot of the acts of today will stop selling 20-30 years from now and some very talented groups who had only minor hits will be selling very well and getting a ton of recurrent airplay.
I'll have to check out this pitchfork too I think I'll find some very talented artists through it
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Ah, lucky him. Looks like that couple are indie lovers. Very interesting. Please tell me his opinion about Taylor if you don't mind. He sounds like a very credible person to comment about music.
Of course there were many bad acts too from that era. But the good ones can be found at the best selling musicians of all time (in albums). People from that era bought good music music only, and the bad ones faded. Not easily found if we try to look them up. Those legend didn't have hit singles or a lot of awards. They only had hit albums. That's why I really hope Taylor not to have hit singles like how a lot of other fans want to. And stop winning awards too. Hit albums are the most important, cause album speaks longevity. I mean, The Beatles only had 6 GRAMMYs for God's sake, but they're able to stay relevant for 40 years and counting.
And I can easily predict (according to history), today's acts that we see in Billboard Hot 100 we will never heard of them in at least 10 years from now. Just like how we never heard about Dave Clark 5 now. Being the number 2 for at least 25 years then snatch the legend spot after that, is more important than being the number 1 for a short time and then being forgotten.
Go check it out, and come to the right side. lol .
On other note, I'm secretly hoping Taylor will go Neko Case route with this 4th album.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
And I can easily predict (according to history), today's acts that we see in Billboard Hot 100 we will never heard of them in at least 10 years from now. Just like how we never heard about Dave Clark 5 now. Being the number 2 for at least 25 years then snatch the legend spot after that, is more important than being the number 1 for a short time and then being forgotten.
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This!!!! Everyone makes such a big deal about being relevant now but its that music that keeps selling year after year that matters. No one will even care about half the acts out now who are dominating but the legends will live on forever .
And sadly Marty Fine is not a Taylor fan he says some people will like that but he's only for Americana music that's why I said this album will hopefully put him on our side and also why I respect him cause he will even defend someone he doesn't even like
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
This!!!! Everyone makes such a big deal about being relevant now but its that music that keeps selling year after year that matters. No one will even care about half the acts out now who are dominating but the legends will live on forever .
And sadly Marty Fine is not a Taylor fan he says some people will like that but he's only for Americana music that's why I said this album will hopefully put him on our side and also why I respect him cause he will even defend someone he doesn't even like
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We sometimes need to step back, read the history book and pay attention to how in music, history has repeated itself from time to time. It's been happening since the '40s (for example, Rolling Stone, the most pathetic music magz, only put Billie Holiday at greatest singer of all time, not artist list).
We just need to stop bothering about hit singles, focus on the album. It's nice to have a top10 hit, but come on, if you read wikipedia in the future, will you even bother to look at today's top 10?
And I'll be even happier if Taylor not only has 0 hit singles that go #1 on Billboard, but if she finally stopped winning all awards. It's all simply because of I really want her to be in the list of greatest artists in the future. Let the fads win them. We will get the top spot at the end of the day.
You know, that why I said he's a very credible critic. Cause doesn't matter you like it or not, you will recognize that good music is just good music and there's no way to deny it. It's just the matter of taste.
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Hello again, you may tired reading a lot posts from me.
But here I found a good article as the back up reason why the Indie world (rep. by A2IM) can claim Taylor Swift as an indie sweetheart by her association with BMR. - from American Songwriter: http://www.americansongwriter.com/20...or-the-indies/
Read it 'till the end, including the comment section, there's a comment from Jim Mahoney (Vice President of A2IM) regarding Taylor's case.
He's right imo. Other than distribution right with Universal, BMR is an indie label. And Taylor still makes music indie-style. She's still an indie artist for me.
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Member Since: 12/6/2011
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
No one knows what move will John pull. I'm afraid he will get into Taylor's life again. But I've heard two songs that were rumoured about Taylor, and both were very sweet. One as the counter-attack for 'Dear John' (Shadow Days), another one for 'Ours' (A Face to Call Home - this one is the sweetest). Things are good again between them I guess.
VD & NYE, both are awful. And both were made by the same director, with identical scripts.
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See that's the thing..I'm aware of those songs and others too...but with John he can write the most sensitive lyrics but it doesn't represent what sort of guy he really is. No matter if those songs are the guy he wants to be on one level, because his inner scumbag always wins through in the end. He was wrong in the first place for involving his screwed up psyche in Taylor's life, using her to some extent just for her popularity with younger girls and because she was young and sweet and adoring of him herself; and she was too young and naive at the time to see beyond his suave line, fame, (and his plus 3 inches in height on her.) Hopefully as I said she won't ever get drawn back in, because if she did it would end worse than last time. For now I think she's past it, hope it stays that way.
The initials for that movie (VD) are certainly appropriate lol...I really think Tay could become a great actress if she chooses the right vehicles, and they involve good producers, directors and co-actors and actresses.
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Different and more cheerful and relevant topic....I hear "Safe and Sound" is getting played in a lot of medical environments since it came out...i.e. Dentist and doctor waiting rooms etc.
I'm guessing it has a calming effect on people who're in stressful situations.
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Originally posted by a_little_sinner
See that's the thing..I'm aware of those songs and others too...but with John he can write the most sensitive lyrics but it doesn't represent what sort of guy he really is. No matter if those songs are the guy he wants to be on one level, because his inner scumbag always wins through in the end. He was wrong in the first place for involving his screwed up psyche in Taylor's life, using her to some extent just for her popularity with younger girls and because she was young and sweet and adoring of him herself; and she was too young and naive at the time to see beyond his suave line, fame, (and his plus 3 inches in height on her.) Hopefully as I said she won't ever get drawn back in, because if she did it would end worse than last time. For now I think she's past it, hope it stays that way.
The initials for that movie (VD) are certainly appropriate lol...I really think Tay could become a great actress if she chooses the right vehicles, and they involve good producers, directors and co-actors and actresses.
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Totally agree. A douchebag will stay a douchebag as long as he doesn't want to change, that's what my parents told me. Besides, from the articles that John has written (recently is his words for Jimi Hendrix for the list of best guitarists of all time), that article was more about himself actually. He's the type of person who love himself too much & think highly of himself, the worst kind of person.
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Originally posted by a_little_sinner
Different and more cheerful and relevant topic....I hear "Safe and Sound" is getting played in a lot of medical environments since it came out...i.e. Dentist and doctor waiting rooms etc.
I'm guessing it has a calming effect on people who're in stressful situations.
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I remember tears streaming down your face
When I said, I'll never let you go
When all those shadows almost killed your light
I remember you said, Don't leave me here alone
But all that's dead and gone and passed tonight
Just close your eyes
The sun is going down
You'll be alright
No one can hurt you now
Come morning light
You and I'll be safe and sound
Taylor protecting us and telling us everything is going to be alright while we get our cavities taken out.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Totally agree. A douchebag will stay a douchebag as long as he doesn't want to change, that's what my parents told me. Besides, from the articles that John has written (recently is his words for Jimi Hendrix for the list of best guitarists of all time), that article was more about himself actually. He's the type of person who love himself too much & think highly of himself, the worst kind of person.
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I know right? And the stuff he'd said about Jessica Simpson in Playboy. He has no kind of respect for others privacy. I'm surprised he hasn't said anything about Taylor yet.
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Originally posted by MWB
I know right? And the stuff he'd said about Jessica Simpson in Playboy. He has no kind of respect for others privacy. I'm surprised he hasn't said anything about Taylor yet.
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This part of that interview screams Taylor so much.
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“Because I want to show (a girl I’m with that) I’m not like every other guy. Because I hate other men. When I’m f-cking you, I’m trying to f-ck every man who’s ever f-cked you, but in his ass, so you’ll say “No one’s ever done that to me in bed. Here’s what I really want to do at 32: f-ck a girl and then, as she’s sleeping in bed, make breakfast for her. So she’s like, “What? You gave me five vaginal orgasms last night, and you’re making me a spinach omelet? You are the sh-t!” So she says, “I love this guy.” I say, “I love this girl loving me.” And then we have a problem. Because that entails instant relationship. I’m already playing house. And when I lose interest she’s going to say, “Why would you do that if you didn’t want to stick with me?”
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Once a d-bag, always a d-bag.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
This part of that interview screams Taylor so much.
Once a d-bag, always a d-bag.
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He is just gross.
I don't understand why some women find him so attractive.
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Originally posted by a_little_sinner
Different and more cheerful and relevant topic....I hear "Safe and Sound" is getting played in a lot of medical environments since it came out...i.e. Dentist and doctor waiting rooms etc.
I'm guessing it has a calming effect on people who're in stressful situations.
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I listened to it on my iPod on solo repeat last Tuesday when I was on my way to get my wisdom teeth out.
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Originally posted by MWB
He is just gross.
I don't understand why some women find him so attractive.
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Simple, rockstar persona. Woman with no experience, will easily fall hard for him, besides he's able to hide his douchey side perfectly well until he finished with the woman.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Simple, rockstar persona. Woman with no experience, will easily fall hard for him, besides he's able to hide his douchey side perfectly well until he finished with the woman.
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Just terrible.
He must be insecure or something for him to do something like that.
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The conversations yall have are always so interesting to read; I do read them, although I don't usually comment.
The one thing I did want to add is that I also don't particularly care about hit singles or singles' chart peaks, but a hit single is the difference between Speak Now going 4x platinum and going 5x platinum. The two things Taylor has that she can't lose are album sales and tour sales.
In the case of an artist like Taylor, bigger hits means bigger album sales.
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What do you guys/girls think is the reason None of Taylor's songs have ever been covered in Glee or American Idol? I have to say I've been puzzled about this for a long time, because irrefutably Taylor is one of the top artists of the last 5 years, and both of those shows have gone out of their way to promote and cover pretty much every other big song/artist who is current. Taylor also has so many songs that would be incredibly fitting to a high school environment, or a television singing show. Of course I'm always going to prefer her own versions, but it seems like it's just another thing she has to contend with in getting her songs out there and recognized. It's amazing how well she's done on her own, but I think many other artists have benefitted tremendously by the exposure they get on Glee and A.I.
I'd jus tlike to know if it's a ban by Fox on her or if it's Taylor's decision. It just doesn't make sense to me.
It's the same way with Fox's American Country Awards...they used Taylor's name to promote the show but when it came down to it, they never intended her to win any awards there. They used the awards to promote their own A.I. people and those that were connected with them in my opinion.
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^ I think it's Taylor's own decision; she once said something anti- TV singing competition in an interview years ago. I don't actually know what she said, but I know that some Carrie Underwood fans took it personally.
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