[conseeded]

Originally posted by Bayonsay

Selling more does not equal winning when the majority of your consoles are inactive, not Nintendo getting your coins being more of a priority than you getting the opportunity to have a superior audiovisual experience.

the Wii was a revolution with many critically acclaimed exclusives. sorry bout it

[V$.]

Originally posted by Ichinaru19

PS4 will have my coins when Uncharted 4 comes out ! Hopefully they have more games out by then as well

Slay

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Inception

QQQQQQ at these gurls still arguing when this data is false.

Look at this same firm's prediction for Black Friday 2013



Methodology last Black Friday:

"Of over 102k shopping receipts tracked by InfoScout on Black Friday, slightly over 1,500 included purchases of a gaming console or console game. The data includes purchases at all major retailers carrying electronics including Walmart, Target, Best Buy, GameStop, RadioShack, and others. For more information related to our data and panel representation, visit our data page."

http://blog.infoscout.co/black-friday-console-war/

Actual numbers:

NPD November 2013::

PS4 - 1138K
XB1 - 909K
360 - 647K
PS3 - 425K
WIU - 223K
WII - 83K

Do your research gurls.

Girl stay on NeoGAF let me take advantage of the lowered level of discoruse on atrl!

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Artemisia

Girl stay on NeoGAF let me take advantage of the lowered level of discoruse on atrl!

Oop.

[Somalian Hooker]

the xbone is simply better for the exclusives and overall console functionality

[Cas]

Isn't the Xbone way cheaper though.

[Diar7]

But what's the difference when PS4 is miles ahead of XO in overall sales?

[Tylerbv]

Wait the Wii U is below the Xbox 360?

[NaughtyDog]

Originally posted by man*****

handheld toys now? might as well include this in your argument..

!!! Nintendo should only be compared to leapfrog nowadays

[Reza]

Originally posted by Cas

Isn't the Xbone way cheaper though.

In all aspects.

[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by keerbyriri

This is SO true. Microsoft and Sony are reaching for games way beyond the technology they are working with which leads to a hell lot of bugs and a crappy gaming experience. Nintendo are working on the same level with the gaming technology and graphics that they actually have

No.

Mario Kart 8 was a complete glitch fest also. Same with Super Mario 3D World. There are heaps of videos on YouTube. Probably heaps for other games as well.

I'm sorry but a PS4 and Xbox One have hardware found it current gaming PC's. The Wii U isn't working with "current" tech, it was actually outdated when it came out and game companies actually revealed that the Wii U's specs were low.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-u-cpu-secrets

All games have glitches, this isn't a Sony exclusive thing.

[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by keerbyriri

Yeah benefiting from unfinished new technology which lead to a crappy gaming experience lol

Um actually the PS4 and X1 are way behind as it is.

People are LITERALLY pulling at strings now.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by gloamingtheplain

No.

Mario Kart 8 was a complete glitch fest also. Same with Super Mario 3D World. There are heaps of videos on YouTube. Probably heaps for other games as well.

I'm sorry but a PS4 and Xbox One have hardware found it current gaming PC's. The Wii U isn't working with "current" tech, it was actually outdated when it came out and game companies actually revealed that the Wii U's specs were low.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-u-cpu-secrets

All games have glitches, this isn't a Sony exclusive thing.

We're talking about **** like screen tearing, frame rate drops, texture glitches, etc. So many PS4 games are rushed, unoptimized messes. The same thing happened last gen with the PS3. It was a disaster.

[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Will

Despite anything gloaming says, that's just simply wrong.

Look at the fog, screen tearing, and bleakness of the first Bayonetta.



Compared with what was able to be done on the second.



A lack of draw distance and video stutters aren't style designs. And let's not even get into framerate.

It's called a Budget sis.

The first game was developed by Platinum Games and it was their first non-handheld game with a limited Budget by Sega to Publish.
The second game was developed with Nintendo, and published with Nintendo also.

I mean, companies could barely port games to the Wii U from PS3/360 which is why they basically don't now.

All of which may lead some to wonder quite why many of the Wii U ports disappoint - especially Black Ops 2, which appears to have been derived from the Xbox 360 version, running more slowly even at the same 880x720 sub-hd resolution.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df...nally-revealed

The Wii U has a much better Graphics card than the 360 or PS3 but it doesn't have the CPU. I mean the Wii U has 3 cores and the PS3 has 8.
And the Wii U only clocks at 1.2Ghz per core which is dismal.

The Wii U really needed a better CPU but Nintendo again, spent more money on the Graphics Card, but then didn't have the CPU to back it up.

The Wii U's first party games are designed with the limited CPU in mind. However cross-releasing games via PS3-360-Wii U or even PS4-X1-Wii U isn't happening due to the lack of CPU.

[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by Artemisia

We're talking about **** like screen tearing, frame rate drops, texture glitches, etc. So many PS4 games are rushed, unoptimized messes. The same thing happened last gen with the PS3. It was a disaster.

Uh. Nintendo said themselves that a Wii U suffers framerate drops when more than 1 Gamepad is connected.
So everyone else if forced to use a last gen controller in order to play without framerate drops?

In a follow-up, Nintendo Japan has posted on Twitter that there's a price to pay if two Gamepads are active. Frame rates drop to about 30 fps if two are active; any games that really want that extra controller won't be quite as glass-smooth.

And the Wii U is known for Screen Tearing as well.



The Wii U isn't immune from any of these problems. This is down to third-party developers not Sony or Microsoft.

[6 Apple St]

ah well

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by gloamingtheplain

Uh. Nintendo said themselves that a Wii U suffers framerate drops when more than 1 Gamepad is connected.
So everyone else if forced to use a last gen controller in order to play without framerate drops?



And the Wii U is known for Screen Tearing as well.



The Wii U isn't immune from any of these problems. This is down to third-party developers not Sony or Microsoft.

Yeah, and Nintendo is concerned about these things and 3rd party developers who makes games for sony and ms arent. that's the point. nintendo consoles aren't plagued with games like these. a lot of the best and most anticipated games on sony and ms consoles have these issues. it's pathetic.

[Golden]

The better console slaying.

[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by Artemisia

Yeah, and Nintendo is concerned about these things and 3rd party developers who makes games for sony and ms arent. that's the point. nintendo consoles aren't plagued with games like these. a lot of the best and most anticipated games on sony and ms consoles have these issues. it's pathetic.

You mean 3rd Party who ALSO develop for Nintendo. It's the same for everyone. Which is exactly why the games like the one above, who aren't developed by Nintendo, suffer the same as every other game.

I can't speak for Microsoft, but Sony's exclusives run brilliantly. There's a reason why NaughtyDog, Japan Studio, Insomniac etc. have such a good reputation.
Exclusives run well on every console they come on, more so than cross-platform.

And you say the "a lot of games on Sony and MS have these problems" etc. when actually all consoles have these problems.

It's called developers rushing optimisation and all third-party games can suffer this no matter what console you're on. The Wii U isn't immune from this, shown exactly why above.

Nintendo games are going to work really well on a Nintendo console. Duh.

But why are companies STRUGGLING to cross release to the Wii U? Because the Wii U has an underpowered CPU, considering the graphics card it uses.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-u-cpu-secrets

Companies are having to use "Creative Solutions" in order to get the Wii U versions to look good while running great.

This was seen in Batman where they Simplified the Costumes and Backgrounds.




and again in other games (which EA has basically dropped support since then) they blur backgrounds, and use lighting to help show less at once:



Developing games for the Wii U specially, is easy because they make games based on what they have.

But when the Wii U has to run a game designed for the 360/X1 and PS3/PS4 it struggles because those games are designed with a much higher CPU in mind.

The Wii U has the graphics, it just doesn't have the CPU power to match. 3 cores at 1.2Ghz is nothing compared to current computers and gaming systems.

[brIt-()nstar]

Originally posted by Wumbo

The better console slaying.

*worldwide.

Local teas probably.