You are basically saying that black people who have southern accent sound uneducated and poor
Saying that Iggy appropriates black culture with her southern accent is basically nothing but assigning wrongful stereotypes to the black community. Not all black people speak in southern accent and not all people who speak with southern accent are black. And let me explain you: not all black people who have southern accent are uneducated and poor and live in housing projects. And also australian accent doesn't sound "educated".
Wtf. No I'm not? Why are people not getting this? I'm not saying "all black people in the South sound uneducated and poor," but to deny that there are uneducated, poor, black people in the South is ignorant. Also, I'm not even the one who made the comments in that quote about "uneducated, poor, black people" - the black guy in the video made that statement @ 22:40 and I quoted it.
It's completely unnecessary, she doesn't deserve any hate. It's sad she's not performing at Pride. If she was a black girl this wouldn't be an issue much of the criticism aimed at her is totally racist.
I've signed non-disclosure agreements and I wouldn't talk about it on ATRL anyway considering people who don't like me on here would use it to try and ruin my career. But believe me, I'm doing abnormally well for someone my age
I'm not placing African-Americans in those groups but to deny that African-Americans do exist in those groups is just ignorant. Yes, other ethnicities exist in low socioeconomic housing projects in the South, but it's very clear what type of person Iggy is impersonating when she raps, and it's not ok for a white girl from Australia to do that in my opinion. If she was impersonating Asian people or "cholas" in the way that she rapped, it would be equally as offensive.
I was just paraphrasing what that guy said @22:40. Watch it, and if you don't want to watch it, at least read the quote of what he said.
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See above. I never said "all African-Americans are poor and live in housing projects in the South" but to deny the existence of those who do is just ignorant. They exist. She's impersonating them. She can turn it off and go back to sounding like an educated white woman who can get a job anywhere because of white privilege. They can't. That's not right.
I'm not denying that African Americans are in those groups, but it sounded like you were solely placing them into those groups. Also, I disagree with you that she's trying to impersonate anyone. When you listen to a lot of hip hop music, it's possible to gain the influences from it (like the voice, etc.). Therefore, I feel like it's okay for white people to sound like that while they rap, and there are countless of white men and women who sound like that.
Secondly, she's not really super educated at all. She dropped out of high school and got her GED, meaning that she can't just get a job anywhere because of white privilege. Also, we're living in a country (and world, really) where the workplace is progressing and there is more diversity. However, I think you're sounding incredibly dumb with your statements (and slightly racist too)
it also makes me rme when the same people who hate on iggy don't show NEARLY as much hate for chris brown or snoop dogg for example. 2 people who deserve it much more.
As I said before, my life isn't pathetic, sad or depressing. I actually slay so much.
And she's not "affecting my life" It's not like when I'm on a date or at a party or at work, I suddenly collapse to my hands and knees, clutch my heart and scream "DEAR GOD...I JUST REMEMBERED IGGY AZALEA IS SUCCESSFUL!"
I just love seeing her fail and publicly go through all the terrible things that are currently happening to her, is all.
I'm not denying that African Americans are in those groups, but it sounded like you were solely placing them into those groups.
Well, I wasn't. So I'm not going to apologise for you misinterpreting something I said.
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Also, I disagree with you that she's trying to impersonate anyone. When you listen to a lot of hip hop music, it's possible to gain the influences from it (like the voice, etc.).
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because she doesn't sound like that when she's talking. It's not her natural accent. So clearly she's impersonating an accent.
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Therefore, I feel like it's okay for white people to sound like that while they rap, and there are countless of white men and women who sound like that.
Who? Name them. If you're going to name Macklemore and Eminem, they actually have flow and can genuinely rap, and they're not putting on an accent. Their rapping voices are authentic.
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Secondly, she's not really super educated at all. She dropped out of high school and got her GED, meaning that she can't just get a job anywhere because of white privilege.
True, she couldn't get a job anywhere, but you're kidding yourself if you think a hot blonde will have trouble getting a job.
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Also, we're living in a country (and world, really) where the workplace is progressing and there is more diversity.
So? Just because we're getting there doesn't mean we're already there.
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However, I think you're sounding incredibly dumb with your statements (and slightly racist too)
I'm dumb and racist for recognising her white privilege is the reason for her success, and has nothing to do with actually having any talent? Oh. Ok. Fine. I'm racist then.
Wait what did Snoop Dogg do that was so bad? I must have missed it
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No, strangely enough. I get why you're making that conclusion. That I've got all this built-up rage and anger from how **** my life is, and I'm just using Iggy Azalea as a scapegoat to channel all my emotions. But things are fine. My parents are happily married. I came out to my whole family and they accepted me. I graduated from Uni/college a month ago. I love all my friends. I have a really prospective business venture that I'm really excited about. I'm really satisfied with the way I look. She isn't a punching bag for me to take out all my hate and disappointment with my life.
If I'm being honest, she just makes me embarrassed to be Australian. I don't care about her racist tweets from 4 years ago. That's not what makes her racist to me. That's not what makes her perpetuate the "racist Australian" stereotype. I find what she actually does on stage to be racist. What she does with her voice and the accent. But even when you get passed the voice/accent, I honestly just think she sounds awful. Good on her for being confident. I couldn't do what she does. But I don't understand how anyone could endorse this as a "talented vocalist":
If I saw her live, and heard her live, I would leave. As someone who loves live music, and appreciates the beauty of a gifted singer/vocalist/rapper.....this is just not it. She doesn't deserve her level of success given the amount of talent she doesn't have.
I'm not denying that African Americans are in those groups, but it sounded like you were solely placing them into those groups. Also, I disagree with you that she's trying to impersonate anyone. When you listen to a lot of hip hop music, it's possible to gain the influences from it (like the voice, etc.). Therefore, I feel like it's okay for white people to sound like that while they rap, and there are countless of white men and women who sound like that.
Secondly, she's not really super educated at all. She dropped out of high school and got her GED, meaning that she can't just get a job anywhere because of white privilege. Also, we're living in a country (and world, really) where the workplace is progressing and there is more diversity. However, I think you're sounding incredibly dumb with your statements (and slightly racist too)
A white person with a GED is more likely to get a job than a black person with a GED. That's not Iggy's fault thou.
It's completely unnecessary, she doesn't deserve any hate. It's sad she's not performing at Pride. If she was a black girl this wouldn't be an issue much of the criticism aimed at her is totally racist.
Why is all the hate in this thread coming form RihVENTion?
Doesn't he have a life or something better to do than to enjoy Iggy's failures tf?
And to set the record straight, I have never noticed the "black accent" y'all are fired up about.
I'm sure trollling some random ugly white f@ggots on an internet forum for an hour or two is going to take much away from his life
At the end of the day, we need to destroy her and it is possible. We may not be able to stop ISIS. We may not be able to stop Kim Jong-il. But we CAN... We CAN stop Iggy Azalea. The power is in our hands! WIPE HER OUT.
I'm sure trollling some random ugly white f@ggots on an internet forum for an hour or two is going to take much away from his life
At the end of the day, we need to destroy her and it is possible. We may not be able to stop ISIS. We may not be able to stop Kim Jong-il. But we CAN... We CAN stop Iggy Azalea. The power is in our hands! WIPE HER OUT.