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Discussion: Do same-sex parents influence childrens sexuality? [New Q]
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Originally posted by Dessy Fenix
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It's hard to explain. Femininity upbringing and masculinity up bringing are not the same. Whether we wanna admit it or not some feminine gays are too out there and being that way raising a 5 year old may trigger a influence, confusion or curiosity. My childhood friend god father who was a amazing parent was very feminine (im okay with that in general) but that trigger a lot of stuff i didn't want to offend anyone but his godfather was on hormones so he had developing breast and stuff going on.
Again it depends on the gay parent and on how far out there they are. That's all I'm saying
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
So are you saying bisexuality could be a myth with your logic? A gay guy influenced by hetero stuff he has around him, till he opens up to sleep with girls because he saw it around?
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My brother isn't gay or bi, he became curious that "one time" because of gay influence, my child hood friend who I mention earlier also did the same thing. Is this a pattern? They both claim they not gay all tho they were raise by gays but yet they still "experimented" with male on male .. You now see what' I mean?
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My parents are muslims so you know what they think about homosexuality I think there's nothing that can make you gay. If anything, they just made you realize you're a henny.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
It's hard to explain. Femininity upbringing and masculinity up bringing are not the same. Whether we wanna admit it or not some feminine gays are too out there and being that way raising a 5 year old may trigger a influence, confusion or curiosity. My childhood friend god father who was a amazing parent was very feminine (im okay with that in general) but that trigger a lot of stuff i didn't want to offend anyone but his godfather was on hormones so he had developing breast and stuff going on.
Again it depends on the gay parent and on how far out there they are. That's all I'm saying
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What you're saying isn't wrong, only it comes across as the only aspect of one's sexuality.
It's one of many factors but evidently the least important influence in sexual orientation identity. I would agree that fluidity would be more likely of a child raised by a same-sex couple than a child who is not, only because they may be more open to the idea and less discriminate. For instance, if I as a predominant masculine gay man spent a month with the cast of Drag Race, I would likely be more inclined and accepting of wearing a dress and make-up than now, of which I have no intention. Likewise my mannerisms and language, I would assume I'd be regarded as more "feminine" after a month than right now.
Easy example would be the members of this forum influenced to use slang by drag ball culture. Whereas most don't offline.
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I personally think if ya haven't been around same sex couples that are raising a kid than ya shouldnt be critiquing or correcting anyone. Especially if one parent is feminine and the other is masculine. That's usually the source of confusion but ya have to witness it to understand that viewpoint..
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I don't know. Nobody knows.
But it's feasible that childhood experiences have an impact on what your sexual orientation is when you grow up, and in that case it's feasible that having gay parents could have an impact as well. It could go either way though, having gay parents might increase the probability of the child growing up straight for all I know. More research needs to be done in this area, but Western Governments won't usually fund research like this.
I think most people instinctively know/suspect that childhood experiences effect your sexual orientation. It's very common for fathers to think "What did I do wrong?" if they have a son that tells them they're gay. And that's in a society when we're told all the time that people are born gay, yet people still have the inkling that childhood experiences have an effect.
Unfortunately, we'll probably have to wait for research to be done by South East Asian countries like China to find out, because no Western country will allow any scientists to do research on this.
If it is found that childhood experiences have an effect, it might not matter, as the world is getting overpopulated, it might actually be beneficial to give children to gay couples to be raised if it increases the chance of them being gay, as that will decrease the population in the long run.
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Originally posted by J a y
What you're saying isn't wrong, only it comes across as the only aspect of one's sexuality.
It's one of many factors but evidently the least important influence in sexual orientation identity. I would agree that fluidity would be more likely of a child raised by a same-sex couple than a child who is not, only because they may be more open to the idea and less discriminate. For instance, if I as a predominant masculine gay man spent a month with the cast of Drag Race, I would likely be more inclined and accepting of wearing a dress and make-up than now, of which I have no intention. Likewise my mannerisms and language, I would assume I'd be regarded as more "feminine" after a month than right now.
Easy example would be the members of this forum influenced to use slang by drag ball culture. Whereas most don't offline.
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This happen so many years ago I don't recall the real feelings and thoughts but it was indeed confusing seeing a guy developing breasts, being so girly yet his partner was so masculine and cool he felt more "relateable" again this is the mind of a 9 year old BOY. Masculinity and Femininity upbringing are not the same which is why I said it depends on the gay parent. You could be a feminine gay who doesn't cross dress, do drag, wear make up.. Etc and that can have a different impact as oppose to being raise by someone who does cross dress, wear make up, etc
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
My brother isn't gay or bi, he became curious that "one time" because of gay influence, my child hood friend who I mention earlier also did the same thing. Is this a pattern? They both claim they not gay all tho they were raise by gays but yet they still "experimented" with male on male .. You now see what' I mean?
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There is a difference between experimenting once and orientation. Your bro was open to experimenting once. There are equally gay men, who would experiment with a woman once but know its not their nature. Many gay men equally marry straight women, conceive kids but still are gay.
On your part your gay but from what i read, you really are angry at your folks for reasons which are personal to you(they could be valid or not but are important to you), the problem is your using that anger to reject you and its self hate and can cause mental issues. So if possible, get a lovely shrink to help you in the journey of self-discovery and even maybe they may incorporate your folks, so as to solve the problems you have always had with them and after the process, you can now have a healthier life on-wards as you build your future, no more 'ifs' or 'buts'.
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Y'all are some self hating bitches
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
There is a difference between experimenting once and orientation. Your bro was open to experimenting once. There are equally gay men, who would experiment with a woman once but know its not their nature. Many gay men equally marry straight women, conceive kids but still are gay.
On your part your gay but from what i read, you really are angry at your folks for reasons which are personal to you(they could be valid or not but are important to you), the problem is your using that anger to reject you and its self hate and can cause mental issues. So if possible, get a lovely shrink to help you in the journey of self-discovery and even maybe they may incorporate your folks, so as to solve the problems you have always had with them and after the process, you can now have a healthier life on-wards as you build your future, no more 'ifs' or 'buts'.
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I'm not angry at all perhaps my wording in detailing is misleading but I'm better than fine. The point I was trying to make is it depends on the gay parent. Masculinity comes in one form. While there are various stages of femininity (gays don't like to admit this) the more out there it is the more influence, confusion and curiosity it can trigger on the child.. On the post above I mention my childhood friends God father was developing breast and was very fem yet his partner was masculine the masculine felt more relatable to us at the age of 9. The godfather didn't feel relatable to us it was the opposite it was confusing and it wasn't the hormones that was confusing it was his femininity it was too over the top.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
I'm not angry at all perhaps my wording in detailing is misleading but I'm better than fine. The point I was trying to make is it depends on the gay parent. Masculinity comes in one form. While there are various stages of femininity (gays don't like to admit this) the more out there it is the more influence, confusion and curiosity it can trigger on the child.. On the post above I mention my childhood friends God father was developing breast and was very fem yet his partner was masculine the masculine felt more relatable to us at the age of 9. The godfather didn't feel relatable to us it was the opposite it was confusing and it wasn't the hormones that was confusing it was his femininity it was too over the top.
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That's what am saying your ignoring your environment. You had influence from outside to see through societies homophobia glasses and began observing your parents with those glasses. Like dads are this way and not this way. Mum is supposed to be there not a dad.(That is all homophobia from societies ignorance)
That's why i said with that, it creates self hate, spite issues and denial etc, only a shrink can help remove that whole issue that you underwent as you grew up and help you be healthy mentally in coalition with your folks, you may never notice but you may have some deep seated problems with them equally.
We may not realise the issues we have but others can help you realise them, This issues make us choose wrong paths,hate positions etc without our knowledge.
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The new question
I had straight parents who tried to make me as masculine as possible, and I'm quite the opposite today, so no.
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
That's what am saying your ignoring your environment. You had influence from outside to see through societies homophobia glasses and began observing your parents with those glasses. Like dads are this way and not this way. Mum is supposed to be there not a dad.(That is all homophobia from societies ignorance)
That's why i said with that, it creates self hate, spite issues and denial etc, only a shrink can help remove that whole issue that you underwent as you grew up and help you be healthy mentally in coalition with your folks, you may never notice but you may have some deep seated problems with them equally.
We may not realise the issues we have but others can help you realise them, This issues make us choose wrong paths,hate positions etc without our knowledge.
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Your thinking as an adult your and not realizing your mindset is not the same as a 8 year old child. What you know and see as a adult is not what a child knows and see. If you sincerely think its okay for a feminine acting cross dressing gay to adopt to a 8 year old chid than that's fine! I'm not disputing that I just know that life style is gonna be in display daily and when I was that age it was confusing to see especially when the partner was "masculine" so which one is daddy? Again that's the mindset of a child!. So like I mention earlier it depends on the gay parent and how far out there they are.
People in this thread are thinking as an adult not realizing a toddler or a 8 year child displays a different mindset.
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Idk. I know this gay boy with a bisexual sister and 2 moms
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We should have all options have available, not just adoption.
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This.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Your thinking as an adult your and not realizing your mindset is not the same as a 8 year old child. What you know and see as a adult is not what a child knows and see. If you sincerely think its okay for a feminine acting cross dressing gay to adopt to a 8 year old chid than that's fine! I'm not disputing that I just know that life style is gonna be in display daily and when I was that age it was confusing to see especially when the partner was "masculine" so which one is daddy? Again that's the mindset of a child!. So like I mention earlier it depends on the gay parent and how far out there they are.
People in this thread are thinking as an adult not realizing a toddler or a 8 year child displays a different mindset.
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Actually am observing that 8 year old, we all were there and experienced it. We got influence from friends, relatives,neighbours and television on what our roles should be, then look at our own homes and wonder why dont i have this,that etc. You viewed your folks through societies ignorance without your knowledge(a victim of the times,not of your parents.) A child actually has the most innocent mind, if your environment was loving,accepting and understanding genuinely, even kids around you, even television representing more gay parents positively. You wouldn't have any self hate problems, nor spite your folks and shout confusion etc. I repeat it wasn't your choice to hate, things turned out the way they are but now as you've grown you now have a choice to reconcile all those issues. You now have a choice correct it all, to shun the ignorance of those times and build a you you, not the you society expected or wanted you to be . A shrink is the best person for that, equally its for you to accept you want a healthier happy life.
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Originally posted by Javan
Idk. I know this gay boy with a bisexual sister and 2 moms
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Watch people say it's a coincidence but it's a harsh reality stuff like this happens and it can't be explain. I know a handful of gays that say they were touch as a kid by a man and that may have resulted in them being gay. It can't be proven or disproven what they think and say shouldn't be disputed
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You made a thread based on Beautiful Liar's pov.
That's a huge L right there
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