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Celeb News: TMZ: Taylor threatened Kanye with criminal prosecution
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Originally posted by Playa Playa
Kim knew about this on KUWTK and it was recorded it New York where it is legal!
"New York's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. New York makes it a crime to record to record or eavesdrop on an in-person or telephone conversation unless one party to the conversation consents."
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/new-york-recording-law
Not today, snake!
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No judge is going to waste their time on these millionaire's first world problems lol.
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Originally posted by missy
I don't know why some of you are pretending the Kardashians don't have a killer team of lawyers themselves. Her father was on the team that helped OJ get away with MURDER, if you don't think she doesn't have connections to the best in the industry and the money to pay for it, you're actually delusional.
Taylor is the only one taking an L here, the glory that Kim and Kanye got from this alone is probably worth the risk of losing quite a bit of cash. ATRL is almost the only place where people are defending Taylor, the general public is massively on Kim/Kanye's side surprisingly. I have never seen people complimenting/defending Kim in my LIFE before but everyone is praising her about being a great wife/being loyal/having Kanye's back despite knowing the Swifities would try to crucify her. People were so ready to hate on Kim for being a liar/attention ***** etc, but it turns out she was putting her neck on the line for her man. Kim actually benefited from this quite a bit, and so did Kanye.
Kim CLEARLY knows what she's doing, and you can bet she has had legal advise from top lawyers regarding the matter. She mentioned two party consent laws in California on KUWTK last night. She was fully aware. If she decided to leak it anyway, she has good reason to risk it. She's got the W. Taylor's got the L. Deal with it.
Taylor's team panicked and that's why this Tom thing is getting way overexposed, they deliberately tried so hard to change the conversation and distract from all this. Be prepared for them to do something even more drastic in the next few days.
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tea spilled
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good. Taylor likes holding other people accountable but she needs to be held accountable as well.
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the low key level headed draggings and lashings in this thread
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Originally posted by Retro
To prove libel, you must prove that a statement was objectively, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt false, was knowingly and intentionally false, was made in the presence of actual malice, and that there actually is some form of legal injury.
I'm not some dumb kid who hasn't heard of libel before, and I do not see her as having even nearly committed libel. Respectfully disagree with me if you want, argue your case, but don't write me off as a "blind stan" when you have not sufficiently - or really to any extent - demonstrated actual libel on the part of Taylor Swift, and your only argument agains prosecuting Kanye is that you personally think there was reason to not expect privacy and they statute isn't commonly used.
This is the dumbest, silliest discussion ever when neither of them could or would be prosecuted or convicted, and if we're just going to sit here and go back and forth while you call me a "blind stan" instead of having a legitimate and respectful discussion, I'm done here!
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the plaintiff must produce clear and convincing evidence that the defendant actually knew the information was false or entertained serious doubts as to the truth of his/her publication.
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I would say the fiftylelm changes to every statement made by Taylor/her team constitutes as the latter. Not to mention the stories pushed/sent out.
It's really this simple sis, Taylor is wrong. And there is no judge in America that would side with her because she wasn't made aware of the word "bitch" or because she didn't actually hear the song until its release (which, surprise, surprise, Kanye isn't required by law to let her hear anything, he wasn't even required by law to tell her the lines he was going to use, but he did anyway).
Taylor contradicted herself. Taylor's team went on an around-the-clock slandering of Kimye's credibility. Taylor's lawyer sent Kimye's lawyer an order to destroy the videos, because they knew they were wrong. And above all, this public figure and her team practically dared Kanye and Kim to publish "the truth"...and they did. So yes, this is Taylor's L to hold. And no, no judge is going to prosecute Kanye for recording a phone call. At most, since the evidence was obtained illegally (by Cali law, not NY law, where it was actually recorded), it'd be thrown out. But, since these are two public figures and **** has already hit the fan and everything has been revealed for public consumption, it'd be difficult for any authoritarian to ~erase~ or disregard their personal knowledge of it.
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Taylor's team went on an around-the-clock slandering of Kimye's credibility.
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Taylor's lawyer sent Kimye's lawyer an order to destroy the videos, because they knew they were wrong.
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Completely unsubstantiated.
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I would say the fiftylelm changes to every statement made by Taylor/her team constitutes as the latter. Not to mention the stories pushed/sent out.
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I would argue they do not constitute any part of it.
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And there is no judge in America that would side with her
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Nor is there any judge in America that would prosecute her for "libel."
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This whole thing is an absolute mess
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Originally posted by Androo
Karma is a ****ing bitch taylor...don't you dare ever to mess with holy katy again...
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this really really isn't going to help her case
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Originally posted by Playa Playa
Kim knew about this on KUWTK and it was recorded it New York where it is legal!
"New York's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. New York makes it a crime to record to record or eavesdrop on an in-person or telephone conversation unless one party to the conversation consents."
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/new-york-recording-law
Not today, snake!
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omg
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You guys are dumb if you don't see that what Kanye/Kim did is WRONG. Take off the Stan goggles and try to think about this rationally. Kanye has abused her for fame and publicity.
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Originally posted by missy
I don't know why some of you are pretending the Kardashians don't have a killer team of lawyers themselves. Her father was on the team that helped OJ get away with MURDER, if you don't think she doesn't have connections to the best in the industry and the money to pay for it, you're actually delusional.
Taylor is the only one taking an L here, the glory that Kim and Kanye got from this alone is probably worth the risk of losing quite a bit of cash. ATRL is almost the only place where people are defending Taylor, the general public is massively on Kim/Kanye's side surprisingly. I have never seen people complimenting/defending Kim in my LIFE before but everyone is praising her about being a great wife/being loyal/having Kanye's back despite knowing the Swifities would try to crucify her. People were so ready to hate on Kim for being a liar/attention ***** etc, but it turns out she was putting her neck on the line for her man. Kim actually benefited from this quite a bit, and so did Kanye.
Kim CLEARLY knows what she's doing, and you can bet she has had legal advise from top lawyers regarding the matter. She mentioned two party consent laws in California on KUWTK last night. She was fully aware. If she decided to leak it anyway, she has good reason to risk it. She's got the W. Taylor's got the L. Deal with it.
Taylor's team panicked and that's why this Tom thing is getting way overexposed, they deliberately tried so hard to change the conversation and distract from all this. Be prepared for them to do something even more drastic in the next few days.
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Scalp him Taylor
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Originally posted by hairofglory
You guys are dumb if you don't see that what Kanye/Kim did is WRONG. Take off the Stan goggles and try to think about this rationally. Kanye has abused her for fame and publicity.
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you really ignored the past 7 pages where Praise Mariallah was spouting out all sorts of law factoids and the post missy JUST made
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Are you sure "blind stan" was a dig and not just an observation?
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The fact that all this mess is just about the "bitch" punchline Like, even if she agreed or didn't care at all about this line and let Kanye going with it, the GP wouldn't care. But then again, it's Taylor Swift we're talking about
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Originally posted by missy
I don't know why some of you are pretending the Kardashians don't have a killer team of lawyers themselves. Her father was on the team that helped OJ get away with MURDER, if you don't think she doesn't have connections to the best in the industry and the money to pay for it, you're actually delusional.
Taylor is the only one taking an L here, the glory that Kim and Kanye got from this alone is probably worth the risk of losing quite a bit of cash. ATRL is almost the only place where people are defending Taylor, the general public is massively on Kim/Kanye's side surprisingly. I have never seen people complimenting/defending Kim in my LIFE before but everyone is praising her about being a great wife/being loyal/having Kanye's back despite knowing the Swifities would try to crucify her. People were so ready to hate on Kim for being a liar/attention ***** etc, but it turns out she was putting her neck on the line for her man. Kim actually benefited from this quite a bit, and so did Kanye.
Kim CLEARLY knows what she's doing, and you can bet she has had legal advise from top lawyers regarding the matter. She mentioned two party consent laws in California on KUWTK last night. She was fully aware. If she decided to leak it anyway, she has good reason to risk it. She's got the W. Taylor's got the L. Deal with it.
Taylor's team panicked and that's why this Tom thing is getting way overexposed, they deliberately tried so hard to change the conversation and distract from all this. Be prepared for them to do something even more drastic in the next few days.
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This tea.
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Member Since: 2/9/2012
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Originally posted by piledriverwaltz
My GOD this forum isnso stupid and blinded by hate
Kimye clearly committed a felony and yall think Taylor will lose the case bc she apparently lied??? LOL
Saying multiple times that she LOST won't change the fact that Taylor alreafy WON 1 lawsuit as we speak and will be getting more money once she fights for defamation damages which she'll clearly win as well
Yall can say Taylor is OVERbbc she is evil1111!!!!!! But truth is she and her lawyers have the upper hand in this situation. Who will the GP side with in the end? The side who wins in the court
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