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Poll: Which era was more sucessful? BTW or TD
View Poll Results: Which era was more sucessful?
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Born This Way
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38.56% |
Teenage Dream
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61.44% |
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How BTW Ball does WW will ultimately decide which era truly was more successful
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Album wise:Born This Way
Singles wise:Teenage dream
and the BTW ball tour will most likely do better than the california dreams tour
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Album Sales: Born This Way
Single Sales: Teenage Dream
Touring: Born This Way
Therefore, I voted for Born This Way.
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TD's success is undeniable, but was much stronger in the US. Songs like 'California Girls' and 'Fireworks' will probably continue to rave in the US for another few years. WW, Born This Way seem to have better success. The BTW seems to be on the road to out performing Katy's too, without even the US leg. But we'll see.
But Katy's record breaking #1s, regardless of the quality, made history. Just as Gaga's lead single from the album made history. The premise of BTW was to get Gaga established globally, more than before. Could have been more successful, but I'd say the album made more of a dent WW than Teenage Dream.
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TD singles wise.
Compare Gaga's weakest album to Katy's strongest and there's still not much of a difference.
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We are comparing eras right?
Album sales and Single Sales are the only thing we have to discuss.
Lady Gaga is more succesful than Katy Perry, but Teenage Dream > Born This Way.
I mean, Gaga selling out her tour has nothing to do with Born This Way being more succesful than TD. People want to see Gaga live, she's huge, The Fame and TFM were huge.
Even i will go to her tour because i like her previous albums.
It's like Madonna, because she sold out WW tours doesn't mean MDNA is the most succesful era of the year
Gaga sold one million more than Katy in terms of album sales, but Katy didn't sold 5 million of 1 single, like a monster said before.... she sold 5 million with 4 of her singles! And the rest are multi-platinum, so, basically, millions have already own half of her album... how is that not impressive?
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Originally posted by MonsterMosama
I think Teenage Dream winning this poll is a good example of how most of ATRL only cares about the success of singles over album sales. If you were an artist though would you rather have people buy 1 of your songs or buy an entire album of your work? So which one is more important?
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She didn't sell just one song, she sold 30m with 6 songs (half of her album actually) and even Peacock not being single sold more than 500k.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
We are comparing eras right?
Album sales and Single Sales are the only thing we have to discuss.
Lady Gaga is more succesful than Katy Perry, but Teenage Dream > Born This Way.
I mean, Gaga selling out her tour has nothing to do with Born This Way being more succesful than TD. People want to see Gaga live, she's huge, The Fame and TFM were huge.
Even i will go to her tour because i like her previous albums.
It's like Madonna, because she sold out WW tours doesn't mean MDNA is the most succesful era of the year
Gaga sold one million more than Katy in terms of album sales, but Katy didn't sold 5 million of 1 single, like a monster said before.... she sold 5 million with 4 of her singles! And the rest are multi-platinum, so, basically, millions have already own half of her album... how is that not impressive?
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this.
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The question is which one was the most succesful, not most impactful therefore BTW wins and these are FACTS.
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WW: BTW
Singles: TD
Albums: BTW
Tour: BTW (her ticket sales already have outgrossed TD's tour)
Impact: BTW
Radio: TD
Video views: TD
Lol @ Katy stans saying a tour doesn't matter. The BORN THIS WAY BALL TOUR is a tour for BTW, therefore it is part of the era.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
WW: BTW
Singles: TD
Albums: BTW
Tour: BTW (her ticket sales already have outgrossed TD's tour)
Impact: BTW
Radio: TD
Video views: TD
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I wouldnt be that sure. TD catapulted Katy into real stardom. It will be hailed as her glorius peak. countless and countless records broken including MJ's 5#s, many flawless, hyped videos.
BTW will only be seen as experimental era for Gaga.
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Originally posted by Kats
Not in terms of singles, Grammy's, or awards.
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You do know that Katy has 0 Grammys, right?
The kinds of awards Katy has won are things like Kids Choice Awards, MTV VMAs, etc., whereas Gaga has won important awards like A Bambi, Trevor Project Award, GLAAD Media Awards, etc.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
I wouldnt be that sure. TD catapulted Katy into real stardom. It will be hailed as her glorius peak. countless and countless records broken including MJ's 5#s, many flawless, hyped videos.
BTW will only be seen as experimental era for Gaga.
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But no one changed their sound or mindset because of TD. The fact that she sold so many singles, yet still failed to push a huge amount of albums or break records with her tour shows how little impact she made WW. BTW will be remembered as more than just an experimental era. It's the era that she went from popstar to political figure. It's when she solidified her position as an important popstar with something of value to say. People still see Katy as the girl with big **** and catchy music.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
WW: BTW
Lol @ Katy stans saying a tour doesn't matter. The BORN THIS WAY BALL TOUR is a tour for BTW, therefore it is part of the era.
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your right but BTW tour hasnt started yet. Katy's era lasted until the tour was over, unlike Gaga's. Which also tells something about this era. And the two will be uncomparable again cuz she will promote her new album in BTW tour as well so there will be an extension to it.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
You do know that Katy has 0 Grammys, right?
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And that's the same as how many Grammys the Born This Way era made Gaga earn.
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Teenage Dream, by far. Like Ramcoro said, Katy made herself into a star with TD, while BTW resulted in Gaga taking a massive blow to her star power that she went in the complete and total opposite direction.
There is nothing to compare.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
your right but BTW tour hasnt started yet. Katy's era lasted until the tour was over, unlike Gaga's. Which also tells something about this era. And the two will be uncomparable again cuz she will promote her new album in BTW tour as well so there will be an extension to it.
And that's the same as how many Grammys the Born This Way era made Gaga earn.
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The fact that Gaga is able to sell out a year after her album was released says something.
Oh, and I know Gaga doesn't have any Grammys for BTW, but Kats brought up Grammys and that didn't make any sense.
Katy's album sold 5.5m WW with a tour.
Gaga's album sold 6.3m WW without a tour.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Teenage Dream, by far. Like Ramcoro said, Katy made herself into a star with TD, while BTW resulted in Gaga taking a massive blow to her star power that she went in the complete and total opposite direction.
There is nothing to compare.
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But then how do you explain Gaga selling more albums and eventually outgrossing Katy's tour if TD made Katy into a star and BTW took Gaga's starpower away?
Singles aren't as important as people seem to think, and Gaga's albums selling more and tour selling better proves that. Single sales are great, but if you can't sell something that costs more than a buck, you're not getting the right people to pay attention to you
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
You do know that Katy has 0 Grammys, right?
The kinds of awards Katy has won are things like Kids Choice Awards, MTV VMAs, etc., whereas Gaga has won important awards like A Bambi, Trevor Project Award, GLAAD Media Awards, etc.
But no one changed their sound or mindset because of TD. The fact that she sold so many singles, yet still failed to push a huge amount of albums or break records with her tour shows how little impact she made WW. BTW will be remembered as more than just an experimental era. It's the era that she went from popstar to political figure. It's when she solidified her position as an important popstar with something of value to say. People still see Katy as the girl with big **** and catchy music.
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Aside that I admire her political work, from what I see on ATRL is that her so called "preachy" attitude is not very popular. Well time will tell if she can keep her title as a political ambrassador.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
I wouldnt be that sure. TD catapulted Katy into real stardom. It will be hailed as her glorius peak. countless and countless records broken including MJ's 5#s, many flawless, hyped videos.
BTW will only be seen as experimental era for Gaga.
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TD is not impacting in any aspect. The singles were successful and that's it.
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The poll has spoken.
/end.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
But then how do you explain Gaga selling more albums and eventually outgrossing Katy's tour if TD made Katy into a star and BTW took Gaga's starpower away?
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Cuz Katy has never been in Gagas league to begin with.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
Singles aren't as important as people seem to think, and Gaga's albums selling more and tour selling better proves that. Single sales are great, but if you can't sell something that costs more than a buck, you're not getting the right people to pay attention to you
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Well I doubt the BTW tour can move substial amount of copies of Born This Way, but we'll see.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
Aside that I admire her political work, from what I see on ATRL is that her so called "preachy" attitude is not very popular. Well time will tell if she can keep her title as a political ambrassador.
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But that's ATRL, my boo. We both know that ATRL hates anything that isn't exactly what they want. Only ATRL would turn against a popstar trying to make a difference. People on here aren't used to a political popstar. All they want is fun dance beats, which is fine, but people really shouldn't hate on someone for trying to do something good.
I'm not saying that the TD era wasn't massive because it was and everyone knows that. But for me, I look at the single sales, album sales, awards, acclaim, tour, impact, etc. to make my final decision, and imo, BTW comes out on top mainly because of critical reception, album sales, and tour sales so far.
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