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News: Terrorist attack in Paris leaves 12 dead
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Of course not. Their actions are inhuman and they deserve to be punished.
My point is that the people from the magazine were facing such reaction when they printed mockery about Islam. I mean this is literally the most extremist and dangerous organisation in the world, and they flat out provoked them. I don't agree with the reaction, but i'm not at all surprised that it happened either.
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i dont think its that serious to kill people over that but i'm tired of people making a mockery out of Islam. in times where everything is so PC and volatile, why would anyone do that? such a selfish and stupid move.
R.I.P to those killed.
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Originally posted by Aleks
How about not mocking any religions? And I'm an atheist myself and don't take religion seriously, but there are obviously people who do, some to an extreme degree. Is it really that hard to keep your mouth shut sometimes, especially if you don't really give a **** about religion?
I do agree with your point, but that's in the 'perfect world'.
In a world we live in, with so many SICK people around, we do have to watch the **** we say, to at least be able to prevent some of these actions. And no, that's not the way to fight terrorism, but what other ways are there? War?
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Yeah okay, curtail freedom of speech because ppl may get upset? Mockery is necessary of politicians, religious views etc even if you dont agree with it. This is as ridiculous as me threatening violence against people who slander my fav celebs because it makes me upset because I hold them in high regard IMO.
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
I don't like any religion but this is true tbh,
christianity is the most normal religion, christian countries are the only countries so far to legalize gay marrige, israel (jewish country) combines judaism with democracy which is a mess, and islam is aggresive and promotes terror. If I was born muslim I would leave the religion (can they even do that in the islamic countires without getting boycotted?) , as a jew I already left that religion. I can't stand religions with all these pathetic rules.
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You clearly don't know anything about the history of Christianity. They killed million of people.
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Secularism and letting people believe whatever they want>>>>>>>
It is hard for us to understand because we no longer believe religion is the most sacred thing and people in some countries in the Middle East still do. Yet killing someone is never acceptable. I believe in freedom of speech, that is what makes our society great, it's the reason why all can type comfortably our opinions without fear.
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
No no no, Lenin was an atheist; that is a fact.
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You can be an atheist and have other ideas. The Communist Revolution was economic, not religious. The French Revolution was far more anti-religion.
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Originally posted by Iman
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in times where everything is so PC and volatile, why would anyone do that? such a selfish and stupid move.
R.I.P to those killed.
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Are you serious?
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Well yes, but in Latin America the Catholic church used to be very powerful and told the people to have lots of children which isn't very practical for poor people.
Anyway, this is off-topic. I find most religions are meant to do good to people but people interpret them selfishly.
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Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I'm not going to say the Church is always going to be right when it comes to solving social economical problems. But, I believe that it has been at the forefront of trying to deal with them.
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Well yes, but in Latin America the Catholic church used to be very powerful and told the people to have lots of children which isn't very practical for poor people.
Anyway, this is off-topic. I find most religions are meant to do good to people but people interpret them selfishly.
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Ding ding
That said, I don't feel like it's helping anyone's cause to place blame on entire religions here. There are extremists in every group, every religion, every sect, etc. the world over. When you lump them all into one category, you aren't doing anyone any favors and really just making the situation worse. There are good people out there who just want to make the world a better place, it's just that they're drowned out by the violent and vocal minority.
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Originally posted by Cheetos
People scalp Jesus Christ like everyday and no one does anything like
We live in 2015, people need to understand that.
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Need to understand that because you don't believe in a religion you can say whatever you want about it, and the people who believe in that religion need to stand there and clap?
Where is Reza Aslan when you need him
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
Actually 50% of Africa's aid is given and administered by Christian organizations. Most of the rest by governments and about 10% by organizations not affiliated with a religion or the government.
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What is the source of this info? I'm curious.
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
I don't like any religion but this is true tbh,
christianity is the most normal religion, christian countries are the only countries so far to legalize gay marrige, israel (jewish country) combines judaism with democracy which is a mess, and islam is aggresive and promotes terror. If I was born muslim I would leave the religion (can they even do that in the islamic countires without getting boycotted?) , as a jew I already left that religion. I can't stand religions with all these pathetic rules.
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girl shut up. how the **** does Islam promote terror? bc no where in the Quran does it say that. also, educate yourself on how christians also killed in the name of their religion.
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
You can be an atheist and have other ideas. The Communist Revolution was economic, not religious. The French Revolution was far more anti-religion.
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Yes it was economic, but Lenin ordered specifically the genocide of those that practiced religion. And atheism has a large role in that. That's my point, and as much as atheists deny that atheism is a religion, I stand by my belief that atheism can lead to fanaticism just as much as any other ideology such as religion or politics. Because it's a human condition; it's not tied to any certain one.
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Originally posted by Embustera
You clearly don't know anything about the history of Christianity. They killed million of people.
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Yeah, that's kind of the point. Christianity and other religions moved on from their barbaric actions of the past for the most part and Islam DIDN'T.
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Originally posted by Iman
girl shut up. how the **** does Islam promote terror? bc no where in the Quran does it say that. also, educate yourself on how christians also killed in the name of their religion.
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The fact that women are terrorised to live under Burqa, that speaks volume.
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R.I.P. to all victims. Truly horrible.
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Originally posted by PromKing
With ISIS being all hyped up, they really chose to do this?
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It's freedom of speech. Terrorism should never shut them up.
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Originally posted by Kali.
Yeah, that's kind of the point. Christianity and other religions moved on from their barbaric actions of the past for the most part and Islam DIDN'T.
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My condolences go out to the victims & families of the victims.
Such a sad day...
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Originally posted by Iman
girl shut up. how the **** does Islam promote terror? bc no where in the Quran does it say that. also, educate yourself on how christians also killed in the name of their religion.
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Both the Quran and the Bible have some questionable quotes. I do not think people should follow everything those books say strictly, they were written a long time ago. We read sections of the Quran in my Western Civ class and there was a quote that clearly said to kill infidels....
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Anyway, Rest in Peace to these poor people, so sad.
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