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Discussion: Why doesn't ATRL give Xtina credit?
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Originally posted by Rolland
Why am I not surprised that it's the Britney, Beyoncé, Mariah, Pink and Avril stans the ones that are in here trying to discredit Xtina? I wonder why!
Let me start with Britney. One would think, when she's supposedly so successful and so influential like their stans like to claim, they wouldn't worry about someone who according to them is so inferior. But the thing is Xtina is not inferior at all. Britney lacks talent, that's why she's always been mocked about being a lip synching fraud her whole damn career, she will ALWAYS be seen as a joke as an untalented person. It's not a coincidence media, critics and GP in general use her as the first and perfect example when they talk about how music industry has become a joke when people like her are more successful (commercially wise) than people with real talent and abilities like Xtina. I guess it hurts them, when someone they admire so much (God knows for what reason) has been panned for her entire career and is basically seen as the face of talentless acts. Yes, she has sold 100 million albums. Amazing, good for her. But the funny thing is legends and icons from the past are not remembered for how many albums they sold, so the thing you cling so much for making Britney so special won't really help once she gets old. "Yeah, she lip synchs all the time but who cares? BOMT sold 25 million". I guess that makes up for her being ridiculed for being talentless in comparison with her peers such as Pink, Beyoncé and Xtina. Her dancing skills? They weren't even that great, specially when you compare her with acts that are far more talented than her even at dancing, which is supposedly her greatest and strongest, or should I say her only talent? Janet, Ciara, Beyoncé and Nicole all make her look like a joke. So what do you really have to back her up? Oh, yes. Albums sales. If you all supposedly already won the war? (What kind of nonsense, what a sad situation) then why is Xtina constantly on your minds? It concerns me that people almost in their 30s showcase hatred and such obsession towards a woman that doesn't even know about your existence and you will never get to meet personally to make a fair judgment about her. As I said, SAD situation.
Beyoncé. I used to think she was irrelevant and a non-factor global wise but she's proved me wrong with her recent tour and album. I admire her dedication, and she's an extremely talented girl, she indeed deserves all her success. But I can't stand her fan base, that's my only problem with "her". They want everyone too see her as the human form for perfection, if you don't they are extremely aggressive towards you. They just don't seem to understand it's a matter of preference, you might think your lady is the best but that doesn't make it a fact. Same applies this time, you're getting the praise, the commercial success, so why would, someone inferior in your eyes (Xtina), bother you so much? We're not saying Xtina's a better technique or is a better vocalist than Beyoncé, all we're saying is people, media, critics and GP identify Xtina as the voice of the (her) generation. That doesn't mean Beyoncé is less of a singer, or a less of whatever the hell she's in your head. Stop being so aggressive and cocky. It's her success, not yours. Your life won't get any better just because Beyoncé is getting sold out stadiums or is selling 3 million in 3 months. 
Mariah. I have never tried to discredit her, all I've been saying my whole life is her success is strongly US based, and since most of the people in here and her fans are from the US they fume whenever someone tells them that. She is one of the best vocalist we've had in pop music, she's been influential, yes. She's in a critical condition vocally and comercial wise as of now, YES! So more than anyone else you should understand Xtina's situation. God knows what happened between these two, but again you let the situation between them get personal to you when it's none of your business at all. Mariah's also known as a bitch, so you're kind of trapped since every single thing people use to discredit Xtina applies to your fave as well.
Pink. Mad talented lady, while I've had a hard time getting into her discography I've enjoyed a couple of songs. She's outspoken and she's let us know what she thinks about Xtina multiple times, she comes off as bitter? Maybe. But I don't let it go personal. It's the same story between Xtina-Pink stans, each side always say the other side is pressed and constantly hating on the other girl. So boring. They both do it, one of the ladies have been mature enough to let a +decade old incident go, the other one not so much and her stans like to copy this behavior. Same escenario, if your fave is currently enjoying such a successful momentum why do you bother so much with Xtina?
Avril. I won't even bother with these ones. Your fave is in a worst escenario than Xtina, so you shouldn't even talk about ****, yet you're always present in Xtina threads and you can't even say the same about us and Avril cause her threads rarely reach second page. That's it.
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What kind of Epic Drag.
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Originally posted by i am stripped
Maybe it's because after two flop albums she still is praised as The Voice of Generation and is considered one of the most influential on the business.
Also, it must be hard to see big singers like Miss Whitney and Miss Celine praising her "screaming voice".
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A good clean drag, welcome sis. 
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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I'm screaming!!!
Didn't x leave the voice to focus on her music career and go on tour too? What happened to that?
*insertsxtinabeingabitchtoherstandandthrowinghergu matthemintheface.gif*
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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Spill that tea!!! 
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Originally posted by Rolland
Why am I not surprised that it's the Britney, Beyoncé, Mariah, Pink and Avril stans the ones that are in here trying to discredit Xtina? I wonder why!
Let me start with Britney. One would think, when she's supposedly so successful and so influential like their stans like to claim, they wouldn't worry about someone who according to them is so inferior. But the thing is Xtina is not inferior at all. Britney lacks talent, that's why she's always been mocked about being a lip synching fraud her whole damn career, she will ALWAYS be seen as a joke as an untalented person. It's not a coincidence media, critics and GP in general use her as the first and perfect example when they talk about how music industry has become a joke when people like her are more successful (commercially wise) than people with real talent and abilities like Xtina. I guess it hurts them, when someone they admire so much (God knows for what reason) has been panned for her entire career and is basically seen as the face of talentless acts. Yes, she has sold 100 million albums. Amazing, good for her. But the funny thing is legends and icons from the past are not remembered for how many albums they sold, so the thing you cling so much for making Britney so special won't really help once she gets old. "Yeah, she lip synchs all the time but who cares? BOMT sold 25 million". I guess that makes up for her being ridiculed for being talentless in comparison with her peers such as Pink, Beyoncé and Xtina. Her dancing skills? They weren't even that great, specially when you compare her with acts that are far more talented than her even at dancing, which is supposedly her greatest and strongest, or should I say her only talent? Janet, Ciara, Beyoncé and Nicole all make her look like a joke. So what do you really have to back her up? Oh, yes. Albums sales. If you all supposedly already won the war? (What kind of nonsense, what a sad situation) then why is Xtina constantly on your minds? It concerns me that people almost in their 30s showcase hatred and such obsession towards a woman that doesn't even know about your existence and you will never get to meet personally to make a fair judgment about her. As I said, SAD situation.
Beyoncé. I used to think she was irrelevant and a non-factor global wise but she's proved me wrong with her recent tour and album. I admire her dedication, and she's an extremely talented girl, she indeed deserves all her success. But I can't stand her fan base, that's my only problem with "her". They want everyone too see her as the human form for perfection, if you don't they are extremely aggressive towards you. They just don't seem to understand it's a matter of preference, you might think your lady is the best but that doesn't make it a fact. Same applies this time, you're getting the praise, the commercial success, so why would, someone inferior in your eyes (Xtina), bother you so much? We're not saying Xtina's a better technique or is a better vocalist than Beyoncé, all we're saying is people, media, critics and GP identify Xtina as the voice of the (her) generation. That doesn't mean Beyoncé is less of a singer, or a less of whatever the hell she's in your head. Stop being so aggressive and cocky. It's her success, not yours. Your life won't get any better just because Beyoncé is getting sold out stadiums or is selling 3 million in 3 months.
Mariah. I have never tried to discredit her, all I've been saying my whole life is her success is strongly US based, and since most of the people in here and her fans are from the US they fume whenever someone tells them that. She is one of the best vocalist we've had in pop music, she's been influential, yes. She's in a critical condition vocally and comercial wise as of now, YES! So more than anyone else you should understand Xtina's situation. God knows what happened between these two, but again you let the situation between them get personal to you when it's none of your business at all. Mariah's also known as a bitch, so you're kind of trapped since every single thing people use to discredit Xtina applies to your fave as well.
Pink. Mad talented lady, while I've had a hard time getting into her discography I've enjoyed a couple of songs. She's outspoken and she's let us know what she thinks about Xtina multiple times, she comes off as bitter? Maybe. But I don't let it go personal. It's the same story between Xtina-Pink stans, each side always say the other side is pressed and constantly hating on the other girl. So boring. They both do it, one of the ladies have been mature enough to let a +decade old incident go, the other one not so much and her stans like to copy this behavior. Same escenario, if your fave is currently enjoying such a successful momentum why do you bother so much with Xtina?
Avril. I won't even bother with these ones. Your fave is in a worst escenario than Xtina, so you shouldn't even talk about ****, yet you're always present in Xtina threads and you can't even say the same about us and Avril cause her threads rarely reach second page. That's it.
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Christina can (used to be able to) SANG. She will be remembered a bit for her voice, i'm sure it inspired a few...now what else?
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Christina deserves MORE recognition!
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Because when she was actually successful, she was overshadowed. Now she's just a features artist. I mean, her accomplishments are still good, but I don't think she's that memorable of an artist  . |
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Originally posted by ItsJustMe.
britney's online fanbase is almost in their 30s?  and yes go on and on about how 'untalented' britney is, if that makes you feel better.
puh-lease you need someone to show you the light, someone that WILL forgive you for your sins, sadly I can't mention her name here without getting warning points altho she has the same name as this village in the UK: click
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So that basically covers all, ATRL is pressed and threatened by Xtina and her potential since their fave has already been beaten by her at one point in time, Once X has her comeback most of the sheep will probably stan for her again.
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I don't think anyone is pressed or threatened by xtina's success realistically for years now. The reason Xtina get ragged on is because she is an easy target first and foremost. It is easy to use her as a scapegoat because:
. she hasn't had a solo hit in four years (NMT went top 40 so it is by definition can be considered a hit)
. she hasn't toured in almost a decade
. Then add in the hot mess performances and messy vocals
etc..... And she will be dragged here and the same applies to everyone here regardless of how innovative/successful/legendary they are seen on here. It has nothing to do with being threatened.
I do believe people on here give her too much credit though she was a force all on her own. But her albums are mediocre, from a vocalist standpoint well we all know that etc.... I find the fact that people call her legend x is more than enough credit in some way
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This thread made me realize how much I love the Fighters
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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Originally posted by ItsJustMe.
britney's online fanbase is almost in their 30s? and yes go on and on about how 'untalented' britney is, if that makes you feel better.
puh-lease you need someone to show you the light, someone that WILL forgive you for your sins, sadly I can't mention her name here without getting warning points altho she has the same name as this village in the UK: click
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If anything I feel sorry for her and all the people that go to her shows to receive such a mediocre performance in return, what kind of low standards and lack of self respect? She does not even attempt to sing, she does not even attempt to dance; all she does is walk around a stage holding a microphone and she even forgets to lip synchs in time.
If worshiping a fraud, someone who is making fun of people by lip synching throughout her whole career, and not even trying to give them a decent performance, someone who is always portrayed as talentless, someone who people see as a joke, someone who is unable to stay in tune hence why they need to use tons of auto tune in studio recordings, someone who seems to have no passion about music means I haven't seen the light (what a cliché phrase) then I am happy in the dark side. Dark side meaning I have standards Britney does not suffice and will never suffice, I have self respect for not admiring someone who has nothing worthy to be admired and is just a fraud, that I prefer people who are actually talented and can offer me a decent performance with not just distracting stuff such as backup dancers and screens, but can actually entertain me with her own talent. People that don't need to look good on paper with albums sales from a decade ago and all that stuff, because they can look good enough and get praised by critics, media and GP using just a microphone.
Keep in mind this is about Britney the "artist" since I haven't had the pleasure to meet Britney the person and surely I won't, neither I want. So everything written above is just my opinion, you clearly will disagree with it, and that's fine. But yeah, I am very happy to be in the dark side.
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Originally posted by BSNMology
Girl, nobody tuned into the X Factor for NOBODY. The X Factor is a ****ing MESS. A cancelled MESS. Barack Obama could not have saved The X Factor. Jesus himself could have descended from the sky and sat next to Demetria and not one single ounce of a **** would have been given!!! Britney swooped in, got that CHECK, the EFFORTLESS smash Scream & Shout and LEFT.
Femme Fatale didn't reach platinum, but Christina didn't even go gold, so what is the point of you making that statement? It got a #1 single that free fell? OH WELL. None of Christina's singles even got on the damn plane to fall from. Britney also had a successful second single. And a third.
Her performances may be cringeworthy and she can look 45 if she wants, but the attendees of her SOLD OUT VEGAS RESIDENCY and her previous two tours for CIRCUS and FEMME FATALE don't seem to MIND.
If a cringeworthy, 45 year old, lip synching bitch can sell out arenas and residencies, why can Christina not even book a damn date??????
And that's just BRITNEY. To try and compare her to BEYONCE?? Are you serious?
That's why y'all are considered "delusional" - it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift; but to try and tear down other artists' accomplishments - especially AS OF TODAY - is laughable.
"They didn't go platinum." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't get a #1." Neither did Christina.
"They didn't ________." Neither did Christina.
"Their tour..." Girl.
Thinking we care about one damn Grammy from 1999. Ch....
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it's fine to praise Christina's talents, nobody denies her gift
Except as a musician that's pretty much all you need. It's sad we live in a culture where we value chart success over talent and accolades, both of which Xtina has more than Britney. The reason Britney fans cling to her chart success is because that's all Britney has achieved. She's not a naturally gifted singer, songwriter, she doesn't play any instruments. She's won ONE Grammy in her entire 15+ year career, she's never invited to prestigious events like Oscars or Grammys or Golden Globes (hence why she only attends the parties). Her name holds little weight, because when you start mass producing perfumes in drugstores and model for Kohl's, your star power loses prestige.
Point being, for the past 10 years, Britney has been the Walmart to Xtina's Whole Foods. Making more money than someone else doesn't prove your worth as an artist. While Xtina wins multiple prestigious awards, gets nominated for Golden Globes, earns humanitarian awards, earns Voice of a Generation awards, gets honored by Time magazine as one of the most influential people alive, Britney... sells singles she lends her vocals to as a chore while providing little to no contribution to the lyrics or much else.
And by your logic, do we also need to have our own Platinum albums to criticize other artists achievements? You make no sense. How is it not fair to knock someone's "achievements" when those "achievements" are something as frivolous as chart success and sales? When comparing 2 actresses like Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie on who the stronger actor is, no one says "Oh but Aniston is better because despite Jolie being more talented, her movies made more money!!"
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I just finished reading the thread and I am GETTING my laughs Acting like their faves success is their own, despite most likely being broke
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Originally posted by Rolland
Why am I not surprised that it's the Britney, Beyoncé, Mariah, Pink and Avril stans the ones that are in here trying to discredit Xtina? I wonder why!
Let me start with Britney. One would think, when she's supposedly so successful and so influential like their stans like to claim, they wouldn't worry about someone who according to them is so inferior. But the thing is Xtina is not inferior at all. Britney lacks talent, that's why she's always been mocked about being a lip synching fraud her whole damn career, she will ALWAYS be seen as a joke as an untalented person. It's not a coincidence media, critics and GP in general use her as the first and perfect example when they talk about how music industry has become a joke when people like her are more successful (commercially wise) than people with real talent and abilities like Xtina. I guess it hurts them, when someone they admire so much (God knows for what reason) has been panned for her entire career and is basically seen as the face of talentless acts. Yes, she has sold 100 million albums. Amazing, good for her. But the funny thing is legends and icons from the past are not remembered for how many albums they sold, so the thing you cling so much for making Britney so special won't really help once she gets old. "Yeah, she lip synchs all the time but who cares? BOMT sold 25 million". I guess that makes up for her being ridiculed for being talentless in comparison with her peers such as Pink, Beyoncé and Xtina. Her dancing skills? They weren't even that great, specially when you compare her with acts that are far more talented than her even at dancing, which is supposedly her greatest and strongest, or should I say her only talent? Janet, Ciara, Beyoncé and Nicole all make her look like a joke. So what do you really have to back her up? Oh, yes. Albums sales. If you all supposedly already won the war? (What kind of nonsense, what a sad situation) then why is Xtina constantly on your minds? It concerns me that people almost in their 30s showcase hatred and such obsession towards a woman that doesn't even know about your existence and you will never get to meet personally to make a fair judgment about her. As I said, SAD situation.
Beyoncé. I used to think she was irrelevant and a non-factor global wise but she's proved me wrong with her recent tour and album. I admire her dedication, and she's an extremely talented girl, she indeed deserves all her success. But I can't stand her fan base, that's my only problem with "her". They want everyone too see her as the human form for perfection, if you don't they are extremely aggressive towards you. They just don't seem to understand it's a matter of preference, you might think your lady is the best but that doesn't make it a fact. Same applies this time, you're getting the praise, the commercial success, so why would, someone inferior in your eyes (Xtina), bother you so much? We're not saying Xtina's a better technique or is a better vocalist than Beyoncé, all we're saying is people, media, critics and GP identify Xtina as the voice of the (her) generation. That doesn't mean Beyoncé is less of a singer, or a less of whatever the hell she's in your head. Stop being so aggressive and cocky. It's her success, not yours. Your life won't get any better just because Beyoncé is getting sold out stadiums or is selling 3 million in 3 months.
Mariah. I have never tried to discredit her, all I've been saying my whole life is her success is strongly US based, and since most of the people in here and her fans are from the US they fume whenever someone tells them that. She is one of the best vocalist we've had in pop music, she's been influential, yes. She's in a critical condition vocally and comercial wise as of now, YES! So more than anyone else you should understand Xtina's situation. God knows what happened between these two, but again you let the situation between them get personal to you when it's none of your business at all. Mariah's also known as a bitch, so you're kind of trapped since every single thing people use to discredit Xtina applies to your fave as well.
Pink. Mad talented lady, while I've had a hard time getting into her discography I've enjoyed a couple of songs. She's outspoken and she's let us know what she thinks about Xtina multiple times, she comes off as bitter? Maybe. But I don't let it go personal. It's the same story between Xtina-Pink stans, each side always say the other side is pressed and constantly hating on the other girl. So boring. They both do it, one of the ladies have been mature enough to let a +decade old incident go, the other one not so much and her stans like to copy this behavior. Same escenario, if your fave is currently enjoying such a successful momentum why do you bother so much with Xtina?
Avril. I won't even bother with these ones. Your fave is in a worst escenario than Xtina, so you shouldn't even talk about ****, yet you're always present in Xtina threads and you can't even say the same about us and Avril cause her threads rarely reach second page. That's it.
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