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Discussion: Atheists & Agnostics Hangout Thread.
Member Since: 4/14/2011
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I am an atheist or maybe agnostic, either way I do not want to have anything to do with organized religion, specially Abrahamic religions. It's hard because we're so underrepresented in the South, there are like 30 churches in a town of 10,000 people (where my parents live)....and I wonder why do we need so many and there's only one public library but there are 30 churches?
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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WHY ARE SOME RELIGIOUS ONES HERE BITCHING?
I don't see atheists come to religion threads and try to convince people to drop their religions
can we report all those posts for flamebait?
if you're not an atheist, then don't comment
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by getback
WHY ARE SOME RELIGIOUS ONES HERE BITCHING?
I don't see atheists come to religion threads and try to convince people to drop their religions
can we report all those posts for flamebait?
if you're not an atheist, then don't comment
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sounding kinda abrasive yourself
until the Title is changed so it doesn't have a question in it this is a debate thread
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Think About it like this, change your perspective. Imagine God is real and true, there is life after death and you can live forever, there is a being you can come to with anything at anytime to help, heal and guide you literally the worst most selfish thing you could do is not share that with other people
note: this does not include the type who preach hellfire and damnation because that is stupid and unhelpful to say the least
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What I don't understand is how one can logcially claim that there is a God, that there is an afterlife, with such adamant certainty when there's absolutely nothing to substantiate those claims and loads of evidence against them.
I certainly see why someone would want to share such info, I just don't see how someone can logically be so certain about it.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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A group of Dominican youngsters are starting an atheist youth group, based on and to promote real humanist values.
I hope to join and do some amazing things.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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i have a really weird concept of what i believe 'God' to be
like i just see God as what people typically think of fate; the naturally occurring events in life. i think that everyone can make their own luck and create their own destiny all within the constructs of 'fate' and the constraint aspect is kind of the 'God-like' control if you will
it never makes sense to anyone that I explain it to but I understand it so idc lol
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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The concepts of theism and atheism are both illogical, self-righteous, and a waste of time, imo.
Agnosticism is the tea
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by xclusivestylesz
May you all receive MERCY on judgement day
Allahu akbar
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استغفر ليدي قاقا العظيمة
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by alexanderao
What I don't understand is how one can logcially claim that there is a God, that there is an afterlife, with such adamant certainty when there's absolutely nothing to substantiate those claims and loads of evidence against them.
I certainly see why someone would want to share such info, I just don't see how someone can logically be so certain about it.
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because it becomes real to you. this is how it works first you have to have the faith because God is a gentleman and won't enter your life if you don't earnestly ask. after you take the step of faith thats when you get conformation. i was at summer camp one year and this girl Cassidy daughter of a pastor. she had been training to be an Olympic gymnast her whole life then she broke her leg badly at 13 and had to wear her cast on her leg for 8 months. because of this her badged leg didn't grow with the other one so she had to quit her dream and do chiropractic therapy like every other day for years. that year (she was 18 and it was her last year at camp) when we during worship she got a word of prophecy that she was going to be healed of her pain which has happened many times so she didn't think too much of it. I don't know the details completely but the next day she came up to the front and she was crying cause not only was she healed but her leg grew 2 inches that night and you could see it because the wear in her jeans was underneath her knees
THAT and reasons like that, knowing things you shouldn't humanly know, having a quickening in your spirit to do something random and following through and having it get you that job or even save your life, is how i can have absolute certainty.
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Originally posted by Eric.
A group of Dominican youngsters are starting an atheist youth group, based on and to promote real humanist values.
I hope to join and do some amazing things.
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thats awesome, good for them
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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I don't believe in anything*!
*I believe in Taylor Swift, the power of goodbye, J+R=L, Harry Potter, Lady Gaga's surreal mole, and Bush did 9/11 conspiracy theories.
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
because it becomes real to you. this is how it works first you have to have the faith because God is a gentleman and won't enter your life if you don't earnestly ask. after you take the step of faith thats when you get conformation. i was at summer camp one year and this girl Cassidy daughter of a pastor. she had been training to be an Olympic gymnast her whole life then she broke her leg badly at 13 and had to wear her cast on her leg for 8 months. because of this her badged leg didn't grow with the other one so she had to quit her dream and do chiropractic therapy like every other day for years. that year (she was 18 and it was her last year at camp) when we during worship she got a word of prophecy that she was going to be healed of her pain which has happened many times so she didn't think too much of it. I don't know the details completely but the next day she came up to the front and she was crying cause not only was she healed but her leg grew 2 inches that night and you could see it because the wear in her jeans was underneath her knees
THAT and reasons like that, knowing things you shouldn't humanly know, having a quickening in your spirit to do something random and following through and having it get you that job or even save your life, is how i can have absolute certainty.
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When your leg is broken, it means that the bones are bent. If her legs got healed, then the bones are no longer bent - that's how it 'grew 2 inches'. There is a treatment called the perispinal etanercept which can instantly ease the pain of patients who have been suffering for years. You basically need one dose. I know this because of a woman who couldn't walk, underwent this treatment, and got back home happy and jumping. It is medical, and has nothing to do with God.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Kavish
When your leg is broken, it means that the bones are bent. If her legs got healed, then the bones are no longer bent - that's how it 'grew 2 inches'. There is a treatment called the perispinal etanercept which can instantly ease the pain of patients who have been suffering for years. You basically need one dose. I know this because of a woman who couldn't walk, underwent this treatment, and got back home happy and jumping. It is medical, and has nothing to do with God.
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except she never had that treatment or surgery or anything like that and it happened overnight 5+years after the break, im no doctor but im pretty sure that's medically unexplainable
anyway there are other things such as my friend going on a missions trip with a team from my church to mexico and after they were levaing the locals lined up to thank them and he they just kinda smile and nod and hug cause none of them spoke spanish but then one woman starts speaking English to him so he's talking to her and when she leaves he turns around and everyone mouth is wide open because while he was talking to this woman everyone around him was hearing him speak perfect fluent Spanish as was the woman that was talking to him. only he heard it as english.
anyway i don't expect to convince you based on my stories alone, its something you have to experience
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
yes but if you believe in hell then you must believe there is a God and if you believe there is a God why would you not accept him?
Sinners don't go to hell everyone is a sinner, only those that reject him
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I don't believe in hell. I was questioning the logic of believers.
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Member Since: 12/14/2006
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Originally posted by The Unforgiving
استغفر ليدي قاقا العظيمة
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Are you trying to recruit me to ISIS? NO THANKS.
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
except she never had that treatment or surgery or anything like that and it happened overnight 5+years after the break, im no doctor but im pretty sure that's medically unexplainable
anyway there are other things such as my friend going on a missions trip with a team from my church to mexico and after they were levaing the locals lined up to thank them and he they just kinda smile and nod and hug cause none of them spoke spanish but then one woman starts speaking English to him so he's talking to her and when she leaves he turns around and everyone mouth is wide open because while he was talking to this woman everyone around him was hearing him speak perfect fluent Spanish as was the woman that was talking to him. only he heard it as english.
anyway i don't expect to convince you based on my stories alone, its something you have to experience
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You said that she was doing chiropractic therapy. These things don't get healed in a day, it takes time. Didn't it occur to you that maybe it was the therapy that healed her? You also said that she got this prophecy that she would be healed many times. So why did the prophecy take so long to come true? The only reasonable explanation would be because the therapy wasn't complete yet.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Originally posted by The Unforgiving
استغفر ليدي قاقا العظيمة
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uh-uh, girlfriend
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Kavish
I don't believe in hell. I was questioning the logic of believers.
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nonono i mean if you believe in hell why would you not accept God?
if you don't believe in hell then how can you fault god for a punishment if he doesn't exist?
its hard to explain tbh on either side but im enjoying this discussion
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Not believing in God shouldn't even have a term. It just seems like another religion to me. I don't label myself with any of this mess.
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