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Discussion: My Girlfriend is a MAN
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
Again, the analogy had to do with concealing the truth, lol.
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Two truths that are completely different, something you conveniently leave out.
Someone being trans isn't inherently harmful. Having AIDS and not telling your partner, putting them at risk of infection, is.
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Eww, definitely leave. 
I'm attracted to both sexes but I would never date a transsexual person. Not here for that.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
But why is not disclosing the fact you were trans a secret that is harmful? Not disclosing your STD status is harmful. Not disclosing your marital status is harmful. But because someone you are in a relationship with, a relationship that was going on fine!, ends up being trans and it's a groundbreaking, relationship altering thing?
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The person you want to have a relationship with has a right to know! And you don't need to wait until he/she asks!
Like I said for the millionth time, trust issues come into play.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
They were honest. 
I mean have you even been in a relationship? You don't put everything out there on day 1. |
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lie- used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression : all their married life she had been living a lie.
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They weren't honest though.
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Comparing them because its "concealing the truth" is as valid a comparison as comparing "possession" and "murder" because "they're both crimes!"
Let me sign you up for
1) Gender and Sexuality Studies 101
2) Logical Fallacies 101
next semester because
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
They were honest.
I mean have you even been in a relationship? You don't put everything out there on day 1. |
Did I say the first day? I said before you decide to have sex.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Because they lied to you.
Oxford dictionary already prove that so?  |
Ok, say you are a bisexual man. You are dating a gay man. Your relationship goes along fine, until one day your boyfriend finds out you are bisexual. He lashes out at you shouting, "why did you lie to me!", "why did you never tell me you were bisexual! You deceived me!", "I don't want to date someone who could have had sex with women!" etc.
Do you not see a problem here? According to you, you were at fault here, because you never told him you were bisexual. You were a LIAR.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Comparing them because its "concealing the truth" is as valid a comparison as comparing "possession" and "murder" because "they're both crimes!"
Let me sign you up for
1) Gender and Sexuality Studies 101
2) Logical Fallacies 101
next semester because |
Actually please don't. My opinion is not changing, lol. More than a few people here think it's wrong to conceal your original sex. And it is. If the person leaves you, oh well. That person has all the right to.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Comparing them because its "concealing the truth" is as valid a comparison as comparing "possession" and "murder" because "they're both crimes!"
Let me sign you up for
1) Gender and Sexuality Studies 101
2) Logical Fallacies 101
next semester because |
Well most people probably won't sue someone for deceiving them of their real sexuality. The thing is people wasted time and resources on something that wasn't achievable to begin with. The fact that the situation could've been avoided by a simple truth makes the person liable to what will transpire next. Good or bad.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Two truths that are completely different, something you conveniently leave out.
Someone being trans isn't inherently harmful. Having AIDS and not telling your partner, putting them at risk of infection, is.
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It has the potential to cause trust issues. It also has the potential to emotionally hurt someone.
All that is irrelevant, because the analogy was completely warped by three people rather ridiculously.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Well most people probably won't sue someone for deceiving them of their real sexuality. The thing is people wasted time and resources on something that wasn't achievable to begin with. The fact that the situation could've been avoided by a simple truth makes the person liable to what will transpire next. Good or bad. |
Are you still on this "having a biological child" trip?
Its seriously not as huge of a deal to most people as you want to think it is
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
It has the potential to cause trust issues. It also has the potential to emotionally hurt someone.
All that is irrelevant, because the analogy was completely warped by three people rather ridiculously.
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It wasn't warped, it was a bad analogy. You're a damn professional at blaming the wrong people
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Ok, say you are a bisexual man. You are dating a gay man. Your relationship goes along fine, until one day your boyfriend finds out you are bisexual. He lashes out at you shouting, "why did you lie to me!", "why did you never tell me you were bisexual! You deceived me!", "I don't want to date someone who could have had sex with women!" etc.
Do you not see a problem here? According to you, you were at fault here, because you never told him you were bisexual. You were a LIAR.
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But in this case that person is the liar so what are you babbling on about LOL. Or rather not forth coming.
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
Actually please don't. My opinion is not changing, lol. More than a few people here think it's wrong to conceal your original sex. And it is. If the person leaves you, oh well. That person has all the right to.
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No one said that person didn't have the right to. You can dump a person if they don't like your favorite color if you're so inclined.
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
But in this case that person is the liar so what are you babbling on about LOL. Or rather not forth coming.
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Who is at fault?
Are you that DENSE to believe that the bi man is at fault? That the bi man should have brought it up at some point? It is the gay man's irrational preference to not date bisexual men. If having sex with a bisexual man was such a huge issue, he should make it clear.
I don't understand what's so difficult to comprehend here. Are you allowed to dump the trans person? Yes. Would it make you an asshole? Possibly. Should you get angry at them? No. Did they lie to you? No.
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This argument
You ALL need to accept that some people just won't want to date a trans person. Is that a preference rooted in bigotry? Probably. Oh well. There's nothing you can do to change the mind of someone this rooted in an opinion.
The whole "they were dishonest" reasoning is stupid, as is the comparing transgendered person to an infectious disease.
And expecting a person to ask every potential romantic partner if they're transgendered is completely unreasonable.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
It wasn't warped, it was a bad analogy. You're a damn professional at blaming the wrong people |
Yes, it was! Assuming that I think trans people are the pits because I used an example of HIV/STD is completely warping the analogy. You're also assuming I'm transphobic when I haven't made any derogatory comment about transgender people.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Ok, say you are a bisexual man. You are dating a gay man. Your relationship goes along fine, until one day your boyfriend finds out you are bisexual. He lashes out at you shouting, "why did you lie to me!", "why did you never tell me you were bisexual! You deceived me!", "I don't want to date someone who could have had sex with women!" etc.
Do you not see a problem here? According to you, you were at fault here, because you never told him you were bisexual. You were a LIAR.
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This is completely different to finding out your girlfriend/boyfriend is a ****ing tranny.
You can't be serious right now. 
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
No one said that person didn't have the right to. You can dump a person if they don't like your favorite color if you're so inclined.
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And it's not necessarily because they're transphobic that they left.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
No one said that person didn't have the right to. You can dump a person if they don't like your favorite color if you're so inclined.
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nnnn I could see people dumping their couples on here cause they don't share the same fave tbh. But honestly, I think their analogy was just comparing an extremity to a not so extreme situation. Was it the best analogy? Maybe not, but it's not entirely wrong either. Some secrets are enough to break a relationship, and some are easier to step over than others.
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