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Chart Listings: Christina Aguilera's "Bionic" Bombs. First Week Sales...
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
I came to understand a STAN as being someone completely obsessed with the artist. Loving, respecting them and supporting them is what fans do.
In reference to Gin Toll's post, you'd best then address him/her and not generalize the whole lot of us as "pathetic." He made that post, direct your comments at him but don't lump us critics into the same bunch.
And who decides what is critically acclaimed and commercial successful? Paid critics, bloggers, etc. They're the ones with influence over an audience. Take Rolling Stone for example. Highly influential. If their opinion is negative toward an album, it really does hurt sales because a lot of people look up to that magazine and its critics. Yes, there are stans who will buy 10 copies or so, but I'm pretty sure that is a small percentage. Look at Xtina. Lots of promotion for the album, but it's been mauled by a lot of respected critics. It isn't doing well. So opinions do matter.
And here we go again with another generalization. Who says I am hating? Is it because I posted reasons why the album bomb? Was my opinion not favorable? Go ahead and look at my posts if you please. Show me where I said I was "celebrating" or hating.
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Ok, I'm sorry then if you didn't just hate on her like most of them. I was talking then to those who were. I'm sorry if I offended you.
I think it's not worth having this discussion anymore... we have different opinions, but it's ok
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
And who decides what is critically acclaimed and commercial successful? Paid critics, bloggers, etc. They're the ones with influence over an audience. Take Rolling Stone for example. Highly influential. If their opinion is negative toward an album, it really does hurt sales because a lot of people look up to that magazine and its critics. Yes, there are stans who will buy 10 copies or so, but I'm pretty sure that is a small percentage. Look at Xtina. Lots of promotion for the album, but it's been mauled by a lot of respected critics. It isn't doing well. So opinions do matter.
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One more thing... Christina's Stripped was heavily criticized by the media and the critics... and it still sold more than 10 million copies.
But no need to talk about this anymore
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I never talked about Christina, but I want to say something about her:
Maybe she's not on her most successfull moment, but the ENTIRE WORLD knows who she is, and knows what talent she is
Christina has probably the most talented voice of music history and she knows what she's doing.
I say this because a lot of people thinks that her career is over, but is not true. She is Christina Aguilera! Her voice always will be recognized in music industry, trust me. Im not fan of her, but i said the true (Sorry for my bad English)
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And? She has a horrible, disgusting and narcissist personality, whose career has been vanishing before our eyes since 2006. This time she doesn't even have the critics on her side. You can tell her career is in serious trouble. She'll probably keep releasing albums in the future with moderate-to-mediocre success for a (once) "high profile" artist.
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Bahah, whats really funny is that you took time to post this hate mail. Although you don't give a **** about Christina...
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Just for comedy purposes.
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Originally posted by Ahmed
Although this album was a flop, she has amazing talent.. Other than gaga, which can't sing to save her life
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Your point? I don't like Lady Gaga either. Try harder next time.
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Christina has probably the most talented voice of music history
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No.
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Most talented voice? That doesn't even make sense.
She got a great voice but we all know there are better singers.
And voice is not everything when it comes to music, we all see how she didn't realy use that on Bionic...All that electro ****.
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This is her wake-up call. Now, done with the filthy mouth and foul attitude Chrissy.
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Mariah Carey: Glitter,Charmbracelet and then; what? The Emancipation of Mimi !!!
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Originally posted by †Ñö†Spell⌐
Mariah Carey: Glitter,Charmbracelet and then; what? The Emancipation of Mimi !!!
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Well, Mariah had "We Belong Together," which is probably the defining song of the decade. Unless Legendtina comes up with a massive hit like that, I doubt it she will be able to recover from this tremendous flop.
The problem isn't so much the music (Legendtina does not have a "sound"), Bionic is okay, although two levels below The Fame, but it's her "I'm above you" personality that comes across as total bitch. Maybe it's just her witchy nose, IDK.
Also, to be honest, I really don't understand why people say she'll be back "on top" one day, when she was never in the first place.
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I really think that iwill debut at #2
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Your point? I don't like Lady Gaga either. Try harder next time.
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Actually, I was just stating an opinion, but she is the first artist that came into mind Besides you are hating on everyone, so I shouldn't be offended one but xD hahaha
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Originally posted by Nando_05
I never talked about Christina, but I want to say something about her:
Maybe she's not on her most successfull moment, but the ENTIRE WORLD knows who she is, and knows what talent she is
Christina has probably the most talented voice of music history and she knows what she's doing.
I say this because a lot of people thinks that her career is over, but is not true. She is Christina Aguilera! Her voice always will be recognized in music industry, trust me. Im not fan of her, but i said the true (Sorry for my bad English)
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I disagree. I've stated before that the younger generation (teens/pre-teens) don't have a good idea of who Christina Aguilera is. I teach 7th grade, and about a handful of the 140 students knew who she was based on the "Genie in a Bottle" and that's it. Almost none heard NMT (I haven't heard it on our radio station either).
Nobody thinks her career is over - I certainly don't. I think she's going to have to try again, but with different material.
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In 10 years Christina has never been able to create her own sound.
Each of her albums could have been by a different artist. When other artists try out new sounds on each album they stay true to their sound and are still recognisable to their fans.
Christina desperately tries to get ahead of the game by changing up her sound but she ends up losing out on any fans she had with her previous album.
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You people ARE pathetic. Actually celebrating this because you want to believe she's a snotty bitch. I'm over this album flopping, I still love it. And a crap album doesn't translate to crap sales Most albums on the US chart are piles of crap. She's still getting nice peaks around the world without ANY promo, for example: Australia #3.
I hope she comes back with an album in 2012 or late 2011.
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* Glee Cast, Journey to Regionals (Columbia) 160-170k
* Twilight Saga: Eclipse (Chop Shop/Atlantic) 160-170k
* Christina Aguilera (RCA/RMG) 110-120k
Jack Johnson (Brushfire/Universal Republic) 95-100k
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OMG. Not trying to hate or anything, but I just noticed it's possible the album may not even get a Top 3 debut.
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Who is Jack Johnson?
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Err... Check last week's chart.
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Originally posted by AintNoOtherStan
One more thing... Christina's Stripped was heavily criticized by the media and the critics... and it still sold more than 10 million copies.
But no need to talk about this anymore
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That was 8 years ago... no really relevant right now
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Most talented voice?:dies: That doesn't even make sense.
She got a great voice but we all know there are better singers.
And voice is not everything when it comes to music, we all see how she didn't realy use that on Bionic...All that electro ****.
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I say PROBABLY
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
I disagree. I've stated before that the younger generation (teens/pre-teens) don't have a good idea of who Christina Aguilera is. I teach 7th grade, and about a handful of the 140 students knew who she was based on the "Genie in a Bottle" and that's it. Almost none heard NMT (I haven't heard it on our radio station either).
Nobody thinks her career is over - I certainly don't. I think she's going to have to try again, but with different material.
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Bionic, in the United Kingdom (3rd biggest market in the world).
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