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Poll: More legendary: Janet v Britney
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Miss Jackson if you're nasty!
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Britney Bitch!
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Songs that mention Britney Spears:
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She's Got A Boyfriend Now - Bowling For Soup
Britney - Bebo Norman
Britney - Busted
The Real Slim Shady - Eminem
Styrofoam - Ke$ha
Blush - Jeffree Star
Bitch, Please - Jeffree Star
Touch It (Remix) - Busta Rhymes Feat Missy Elliot
Party In The U.S.A - Miley Cyrus
Krazy - Pitbull Ft Lil Jon
Bounce - Timbaland Feat Missy Elliot
Don't Let Me Get Me - Pink
I'm Afraid Of Britney Spears - Liveonrelease
Rehab (Remix) - Amy Winehouse Feat Jay-Z
Roc Boy - Jay-ZVenus vs Mars - Jay Z
Enamorado De Britney Spears (In love with Britney Spears) - Martin Ricca
We Made You - Eminem
Same Song And Dance - Eminem
Come & Get Me - Timbaland Feat 50 Cent
Got It Twisted - Mopp Deep
Ass Like That - Eminem
The Britney Song - Zendo
All I Do Is Win(Remix) - DJ Khaled Ft Rick Ross, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Nicki Minaj, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Fat Joe, Swizz Beatz & T-Pain
Off The Wall - Eminem Feat Redman
A Little Bit Of Shh - Lady Sovereign
The Future - Lil Bow Wow
Ain\'t Nuttin but Music - D12
White Girl Remix - Lil Wayne
Alright - Sweetbox
It Only Could Be Britney Spears - Solo R.E.D
I Love Britney Spears - Heidi Howe
I Love You, Britney - Dusty Rhodes
Not Your Boy - Steeve Foster
Wasted - Gucci Mane & Young Jeezy
Marshal Mathers - Eminem
Stan Writes Santa - Eminem
My 1st Single - Eminem
One And Lonely - Superchick
Ya Blind - E-40
Superstar Lady - T-Pain
Think Y\'all Know - Fabulous
The Ultimate Victory - Chamillionaire
Just Rhymin With Proof - Eminem
Bubbelbad - Def P & Beatbusters
Sell Your Soul - Di-Rect
Come Follow Me - Aaron Carter
Betta Stay Up In Your House - Busta Rhymes
Tired - Willa Ford
Everythings ****ed - Frenzal Rhomb
Riot Girl - Good Charlotte
What You Like About Me - Guttermouth
Hollywood - JaRule
Diamond In Da Ruff - Jaheim
Everybody Hates Chris - Ludacris
Fast Life - Lil Rob
Save The Children - Robbie Williams
Yer Not The Ocean - The Tragically Hip
Vibrate - Rufus WainWright
Good Enough - Darren Hayes
What You Got - ABS
Radio Star - Edwin Mccain
Don\'t Want Her To Stay - Hot Action Cop
Dream On - Relax
B Is For Britney - Crowned King
In My Backyard - Dead Celebrity Status
360 Degrees - The Game
For The Ladies - KJ-52
Homocide - Tony Yayo
Flop Culture - FM Static Midnight - Pitbull
Anthem Of Why - Guy Sebastian
The Sound Of Failure - Flaming Lips
Let\'s See The Show - Harald Weber
Crazy - Bow Wow
Same Ol Bitches - Kingspade
The World - naked Brothers Band
Straight Outta Stockholm - Mc lars
Seems 2 Be - Dizzee Rascal
Merry Swiftmas - Evan Taubenfeld
Hate Song - Tyrone Wells
Sundown On The Empire - Reverend And The Makers
Storybook Life - Blessid Union Of Souls
Ladies & Thugs - DJ Quik
We R In Need Of A Music Revolution - Esthero
sh!t To Me - Goldie Lookin Chain
Spamalot - Divas Lament
Me and Britney - Taylor Swift (written, never recorded)
Everybody Nose Remix - N.E.R.D. Ft. Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, & Pusha T
When A Star Falls Down - Tori Amos
Britney Spears - Tweak
Keep It GANGSTA - Dogg
Stay Together - Ludacris
Addicted To Money - Lil Scrappy
Mayday - Usher
Say It\'s Over - N-Dubz
Do It With Madonna - The Andriods
I\'m Me - Lil Wayne.
Gonorrhea - Lil Wayne Feat. Drake
Coconut Juice - Tyga (right at the beginning)
Freak Tonight - Scarlett Belle
Dreams Of ****ing Britney Spears - Sean Loyalty
What You Got - Abs
Marilyn - Amanda Lepore Feat Cazwell
Ya Rude! - Jonte
Rick Ross - I Love My Bitches
Machine Gun Kelly - LTFU (One More Time) Rage Pack
Eminem f. Redman - Off the wall
Lil' Mo feat. Lil Wayne - Hot Girls
Childish Gambino feat. Danny Brown - Toxic
Petey Pablo - Britney Spears
Tony Yayo - Love My Style
Fifth Harmony - Me & My Girls
Mighty Casey - White Girls
Lady Sovereign - A Little Bit of Shh
Lil Bow Bow \"The Future\
saturdays - disco love
flo-Rida - cant believe it feat pittbull
jay z - BBC feat JT, beyonce, suiza beatz, pharrell, timbaland
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Impact.
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Originally posted by slw84
Yeah I can't co sign with my fellow Army members saying Janet had no impact.
Like WTH
Unlike Madonna who I love and respect Janet naturally reinvented her look/style and sound without relying on controversy which is what Madonna did.
Janet gave any female that performs a guide as to how to reinvent yourself musically and visually and have the focus be on the great material.
True which is why it's an insult that this thread is started but it's designed to make Britney lose as she won in recent threads.
I don't think any CURRENT LEGEND OR ICON should even be in the same conversation as the pioneers like Aretha, Diana, Barbra, Elvis, Michael, Prince, Janet, Mariah, Madonna, Whitney, Bruce Springsteen, U2, Rolling stones, etc.
like how dare someone vs. them against anyone that has less than 20 years in the game.
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Me neither. I love both girls. And if there's one person the Army should respect it's Janet Jackson. Britney is her musical daughter. The stage presence, the choreography, the head-set mic...it's as clear as day.
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
Britney.
Janet Jackson
Michael's sister
Her last name
Britney Spears
Records sales
Hits
Global
Impact
Acclaim
Classics
$100 million grossing tour
Iconic performances
Iconic videos
Iconic outfits
Iconic hair
Iconic pictures
Iconic iconography
Legendary fans
Influence
Remembered hits
Classic albums
Iconic albums
BOMT
Blackout
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ACCLAIM?! Bitch, where?
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
Couple of questions and comments for you here:
1. @ you cosigning yourself dragging anyone.
2. Can you post some international publications that recognize Britney as a legend (and preferably credible ones)?
3. If Britney hasn't exist, what wouldn't artists be doing that they do now because of Britney?
4. Cher is legendary.
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1, 2 and 4 are correct.
While I am on your side as an objective Army member don't do too much on #3 because she didn't become the best selling teenage artist of all time during the beginning of her career for nothing.
As a teen artist, she made her impact but artist like the current ones Demi, Miley, Rihanna, Selena, gaga and that's not including all of the others that admit to being inspired and influenced by Britney were able to see a new brand of pop because of Britney. While Britney is the lessons learned for the bad mistakes one can make in a career she's also the lessons learned for the good things.
Because of Britney these disney/nickolodean girls have a guide (minus the breakdown) as to how to reinvent their careers from teen queens to adult pop stars and good girls gone bad/edgy for the likes of Rihanna/gaga. Remember artist like Madonna, Janet and Whitney were already adults and catered to adults whereas Britney catered to teens and kids at first and had a career that allowed those fans to follow her to this day vs. the teen queens of the 80s who were not allowed to be reinvent their image, music and performances.
She also has a mix of classic pop with for the moment (in the best sense of the meaning) putting her signature on various forms of pop throughout her career...setting some trends and even following some but still making a big impact.
Outside of her blueprint of taking a precocious southern girl, transitioning her into a young good girl with a wink, then to not a girl not a yet a woman to her college years we got to see Britney grow up and go through good/bad/ugly and comeback on top.
Her music, videos, imagery, visuals, performances and overall career can not be understated by suggesting that #3 should even be a question.
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I can't at people saying Janet is not a legend. Smh.
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Janet is not popular outside of US. I legitimately don't know one song from her, and I visit ATRL.
Britney Spears was a global phenomenon, so her.
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Janet is not popular outside of US. I legitimately don't know one song from her, and I visit ATRL.
Britney Spears was a global phenomenon, so her.
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This
I only heard of her music when I joined ATRL, here in Brazil she's only known as MJ's little sister
Her music and impact are both local, which is a shame tbh
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Originally posted by Musicjunky318
Me neither. I love both girls. And if there's one person the Army should respect it's Janet Jackson. Britney is her musical daughter. The stage presence, the choreography, the head-set mic...it's as clear as day.
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Yeah it's a shame because some army members are making us look bad but then again some Janet, Beyonce or whoever is perched in the thread are doing the same thing trying to completely discredit Britney when Both are icons and legends and both have made good and bad impact (at times) on entertainment and should never be a "vs." situation.
Honestly, as I said before this was designed against Britney because a couple popular threads posted today had Britney winning so I guess they need to do something to counter that.
Sad, but true.
What I will say is that it's disrespectful to even say without Janet there'd be no Britney or that Britney took everything from Janet when Britney like Usher and a rare few people that slayed knew how to take influence properly and always shouted out the ones they were influenced and inspired by but still maintained there own identity.
Michael would never do a song like yeah or u got it bad
Janet would never do a song like Not a girl not yet a woman or Oops or Toxic
Britney is not a copy/paste of Janet or Madonna and it's sad when people use that as their best argument. Britney had her own signature and took influence and inspiration from the best and made her signature her own.
Janet --incomparable
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Originally posted by slw84
Wow that was supposed to be tea? 2 seconds on a tour and one scene from a remix video.
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Ofc that's not all the tea.
In The Zone (2003)
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"Outrageous" received mixed reviews from critics. Some praised its funky sound, noting its influence from Michael and Janet Jackson,
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The lyrics talk about materialism and amusement, with the singer referencing in the chorus a number of things that give her pleasure.[26] In "Touch of My Hand", which Spears felt it was comparable to Janet Jackson's "That's the Way Love Goes" (1993), she sings in a lower register.[10] The instrumentation contains elements of Middle Eastern music and its lyrics refer to masturbation, "I will be bold/ Going to the places where I can be out of control/ Don't want to explain tonight/ All the things I try to hide."
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Blackout (2007)
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After the chorus, the bridge begins with Spears saying "I like this part" mimicking Janet Jackson in "Nasty" (1986).
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Circus (2008)
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"If U Seek Amy" integrates "glam-rave" elements with traditional pop styles;[32] it gained controversy for its double entendre, where the title sounds phonetically like "F-U-C-K me".[33] The electropop track "Unusual You" deals with a woman finding unexpected love. It has been compared to musical themes from the 1980s and 1990s, and has been noted as a "pulsating ballad", with the song also drawing comparisons to the "shimmering waterfall mood first popularized by Janet Jackson".[26][29][34][35] "Blur" sees the inclusion of urban influences, and lyrically recalls the morning after a party with lyrics "Can't remember what I did last night/I gotta get my head right, where the hell am I? Who are you? What'd we do last night?";[29][36] it drew similarities to Spears's prior song "Early Mornin".[37] "Mmm Papi" draws elements from a 1960s go-go rock guitar[34][38] and Latin-pop dance hall themes. Despite its "fun" nature, it was criticized for appearing to "revisit the Lolita persona of "…Baby One More Time".[39] It has been suggested that its lyrics deal with either Spears's father Jamie or paparazzi Adnan Ghalib.[37] "Mannequin" is a dance-pop song with a trip hop influence; while being noted for its "risky" and "futuristic" nature, it has also been suggested that Spears's vocals sounded "lifeless".[40] "Lace and Leather" gained comparisons to "Control era Janet Jackson", Prince, and Vanity 6's works from the 1980s and featured a then-unknown Kesha as a backing vocalist.[24][41] "My Baby", described as having a "faux-Janet Jackson vocal",[42] was written by Spears about her two sons Sean Preston Federline and Jayden James Federline, and closes the album.[26][37]
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Femme Fetale 2011
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How I Roll" is the fifth track, produced by Bloodshy, Henrik Jonback & Magnus, where Spears "pirouettes from a gulping in-and-out breath effect" and described as a "bubbly, playful pop song".[56] Spears' voice is heavily altered, with her voice being put through many distorters, filters, and blenders. The song uses constant rushed handclaps, with elements comparable to Janet Jackson's Strawberry Bounce
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"Trouble for Me", track number nine, features a pre-chorus filled with "melting, wheezing synths" likened to a "Wiley grime wobble," segueing into a "Janet Jackson vocal."
Britney Jean 2014
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On October 24, together with an open letter to her fans, Spears unveiled the album artwork. The black-and-white image depicts a close-up image of Spears with the term "Britney Jean" colored in blue lettering inside a pink heart near the bottom of the cover.[37] A report from ABC News Radio likened the usage of Spears' middle name in the album's title to being inspired by Janet Jackson's eighth studio album Damita Jo, saying "taking a page from Janet Jackson's 2004 album
Not one album without a homage to the Queen.
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
This
I only heard of her music when I joined ATRL, here in Brazil she's only known as MJ's little sister
Her music and impact are both local, which is a shame tbh
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Totally She's forgotten in Europe too. Her biggest hit is her last name.
She's a really big legend in the USA, I guess!
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Originally posted by jodyygang
She studied Janet and had every single move down pat.
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The first and last one are reaches and I guess the last one was meant to be funny
the middle three are literally handful of seconds of scenes in an almost 20 year career and the 2nd one -- do your homework as Janet wasn't even the first to do that.
So I don't see how that at all makes a point unless we are to believe Britney doesn't have around 40 videos 8 tours outside of 5 clips (2 which are debatable and 3 of which don't even equate to 10 seconds).
Oy vey...I have to laugh at the reaches in here. I literally can posts 4 youtube videos in which 4 major artist and 5+ less than have more than 10 seconds of clips taken from Britney...but they aren't copy and pastes...at least of britney.
People don't understand how influence/inspiration works i guess.
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Janet is Britney's biggest inspiration
Janet obviously
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Originally posted by D.M.F
Neither are legends, and only Britney's iconic out of the 2 so I'd voted for her.
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Agrih'd. They will never get another hit/hit album. Madonna in her 30's did Ray Of Light and that was a hit album which is something Brit and Janet will never be able to achieve. They are pop icons, not legends.
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
Couple of questions and comments for you here:
1. @ you cosigning yourself dragging anyone.
2. Can you post some international publications that recognize Britney as a legend (and preferably credible ones)?
3. If Britney hasn't exist, what wouldn't artists be doing that they do now because of Britney?
4. Cher is legendary.
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1. Well, technically it was Billboard, Oricon, Official Charts Company, etc. dragging. I don't argue over subjective facts often so it's hard to back up my arguments
2. Publications? Do you really want me to repeat her regurgitated press releases the way the typical ATRL bases do when they claim "Forbes certified my fave a legend!" or "Time calls ____ a legend." Yes, she has all of them from Billboard to Forbes to Time to international outlets, etc., but more importantly she has artists from Miley Cyrus to Lily Allen calling her a legend and the general public is still consuming her output.
3. The Lolita bit. Then again, I hate this argument because I believe that if any artist didn't exist, someone would've filled their spot. Do you really believe that if there was no Janet, there wouldn't have been another female artist to borrow from Michael/James? All these people are doing is singing and dancing on-stage
4. Definitely. Her musical career? Not by a longshot.
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Originally posted by Swim
Normally I love the Hive, but lately y'all have been jumping on ANY and EVERY opportunity to discredit Britney. It's so extra.
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The absolute truth though the Army can be just as rude
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Originally posted by Nemo
I can assure you that this thread wasn't made with the intention of "making her lose". Yes, the other thread sparked the idea for this thread, because I was baffled by how people could say Britney has had more influence than Janet. To me, I thought comparing Britney and J as individuals, though, was a very reasonable comparison, seeing as they're among the top five biggest female pop stars of all time and each tower over the other in different aspects of each owns career. Regardless of which of the two may be more "legendary" it doesn't change the fact that they are both close to equal as far as being legendary, but given Janet has been around more than a decade longer than Britney, it makes Janet much more of a legend imo.
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I like that you could state your opinion without having to argue that either artist is not legendary/lessening a career. Certain posters should take note
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And Linda Ronstadt is a legend so I'm not seeing your point. Cher does have a legendary music career. Sonny & Cher is iconic, I Got You Babe is iconic, If I Could Turn Back Time is iconic, Believe is iconic, Cher in general is a huge legend and one of the most famous women in entertainment history. Like, she literally has an Academy Award for Best Actress How can you deny her legacy
And again, it makes zero sense to claim that Janet's "commercial failures" make her less of a legend than Britney when Janet's album sales are barely 10m behind Britney's yet her contributions to music and entertainment are triple that of Britney's. Janet could have retired after Rhythm Nation and still had more influence than Britney's entire career
And no, Madonna was not a legend in 1993 and Janet was not a legend in 2001. They were both established icons. They solidified their legacy over the coming decade(s). Not enough time has passed for Britney to be considered a legend by the gp. Most of them still consider her a joke no shade. It doesn't help that she's still releasing songs like Pretty Girls
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We'll have to agree to disagree there. I'm the only person under 40 that I've ever met that knows Linda Ronstadt and I've honestly never heard one of her songs. Cher's music career is undoubtedly iconic. Legendary?
Janet was releasing in the 80s, has four more albums, more singles, has like 15 years on Britney in the music industry, etc. and her albums/TEAs/SEAs total is almost 25M below Britney's. I agree that she's had more influence (granted that has more to do with chronology than fame) but not to that level.
In your last statement, you just argued that RN gave Janet some huge amount of impact yet now it wasn't enough that she would be a legend? Yes, she might not have been recognized as a legend till her following eras but if Madonna/Janet had quit releasing at 93/01, their careers would've been missing nothing. I mean, Madonna's a legend due to Vogue, LAV, LAP, Blonde Amibition, Immaculate Collection, etc. and Janet's a legend due to RN1814, RN, If, AFY, Super Bowl, Rolling Stones cover, J., etc. What after 93/01 made them legends? I could see you arguing that ROL/S&S Tour added to Madge's legacy but she was undeniably a legend by that time.
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Originally posted by slw84
1, 2 and 4 are correct.
While I am on your side as an objective Army member don't do too much on #3 because she didn't become the best selling teenage artist of all time during the beginning of her career for nothing.
As a teen artist, she made her impact but artist like the current ones Demi, Miley, Rihanna, Selena, gaga and that's not including all of the others that admit to being inspired and influenced by Britney were able to see a new brand of pop because of Britney. While Britney is the lessons learned for the bad mistakes one can make in a career she's also the lessons learned for the good things.
Because of Britney these disney/nickolodean girls have a guide (minus the breakdown) as to how to reinvent their careers from teen queens to adult pop stars and good girls gone bad/edgy for the likes of Rihanna/gaga. Remember artist like Madonna, Janet and Whitney were already adults and catered to adults whereas Britney catered to teens and kids at first and had a career that allowed those fans to follow her to this day vs. the teen queens of the 80s who were not allowed to be reinvent their image, music and performances.
She also has a mix of classic pop with for the moment (in the best sense of the meaning) putting her signature on various forms of pop throughout her career...setting some trends and even following some but still making a big impact.
Outside of her blueprint of taking a precocious southern girl, transitioning her into a young good girl with a wink, then to not a girl not a yet a woman to her college years we got to see Britney grow up and go through good/bad/ugly and comeback on top.
Her music, videos, imagery, visuals, performances and overall career can not be understated by suggesting that #3 should even be a question.
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So she reinvented her image. Janet and Madonna were already doing that. So again:
3. If Britney hadn't existed, what wouldn't artists be artists be doing that they do now because of Britney?
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Originally posted by Hey Gurl Hey
Agrih'd. They will never get another hit/hit album. Madonna in her 30's did Ray Of Light and that was a hit album which is something Brit and Janet will never be able to achieve. They are pop icons, not legends.
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??? Janet in her 30s had The Velvet Rope and All for You which were hit albums and produced #1 singles, something Ray of Light failed to do
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Originally posted by Legacy
Janet is Britney's biggest inspiration
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And it means she's more legendary? Lol
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