[Twai]

Originally posted by helloDer

Tbh i would have never thought people would stoop to this level to hate Gaga.. I mean this issue is so much more important than these petty stan wars.

I'm 100% positive Gaga would give up all her success, give up her voice, to fix this issue. And yet people are saying this is all her fault

That's exactly what "The Queen" is about, which I feel people don't realize

Tonight I will return all the fame and riches earned
With you I'd watch them all be burned

This is my chance to release and
Be brave for you, you'll see
I can be
The queen you need me to be

etc

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by Gui Blackout

Anyways, I just wanna say: People, stop killing yourselves. Suicide only looked cool with Ian Curtis. If your life is ****, get a therapist or go to Bali. You fell better.

Love each other, peace out.

You do realize how incredibly offensive this is, right? How do you know you don't have a suicidal friend in your life? Would you go tell him to "take a trip to Bali?"

[JClarkSTAN]

Originally posted by pika

it's not?

If its not a bad thing then what did Gaga do wrong?

[givemethatpop]

Originally posted by pika

Absolutely not. I'm fine with anybody, and EVERYBODY gay being open with their sexuality. What i'm saying is that Gaga made situations worse WITH people being open about their sexuality with the whole BTW speeches, movement etc.

No.

If people judges you according to your musical taste, then the problem is theirs. Stupidity was there before Gaga. If someone is as retarded to say you're gay because you like Lady Gaga, then that person has a serious problem.

Prejudices were always there and they don't feel like disappearing, sadly. If it wasn't Gaga, it would be another. Stop saying Gaga is making things worse by helping people who need it because some retarded at your high school has a so empty life to waste it bullying other people.

[Twai]

Just noticed Fanity's response to all this

[pika]

Originally posted by JClarkSTAN

If its not a bad thing then what did Gaga do wrong?

I never said Gaga was wrong. I said she made situations worse.

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by Fozzie

You do realize how incredibly offensive this is, right? How do you know you don't have a suicidal friend in your life? Would you go tell him to "take a trip to Bali?"

No it's not, Bali have so amazing spiritual retreats. My friend had depression, he did it and now he's 100% better.

[UnusualBoy]

Originally posted by Fozzie

No. It stopped being funny when you claimed that the gays have "too much" freedom, when we're still very much second-class citizens.

I explained what I tried to say, if you're slow to understand, it's not my problem.

[Twai]

Originally posted by pika

I never said Gaga was wrong. I said she made situations worse.

So the next logical step from that statement is, she shouldn't have done what she did..... or am I crazy?

[Quiqui4eva]

This is really touching

But what doesn't make sense is how me made the 'It Gets Better' video, and killed himself later. I'd expect that type of person to be strong, courageous, and never give up in life no matter how much they are tormented or criticized.

[Thisisit]

And this is why the monsters have such a bad name.

I'll take everyone through it slowly. Children raise your hand if you think homophobes and fence sitters won't be alienated by the following images







Shout if for one second you think the born this way video will appeal and connect to anyone who isn't a little monster or a gaga supporter, shout twice as loud if you think more conservative viewers will enjoy and relate to it.

Not think about how strongly Gaga associates herself with gay rights in the public eye. Do you think someone who doesn't follow pop culture and who is midly homophobic will change their mind by Gaga grossing them out? Do you understand now why people say Gaga has done more harm than good to the social acceptance of gays?? Is it now clear why so many in the gay community hate on Gaga despite her efforts to advocate their rights; because all she's done is isolate them even more and alienate people from the concept of "gay"?

I mean lord.

[helloDer]

Originally posted by Twai

That's exactly what "The Queen" is about, which I feel people don't realize

Tonight I will return all the fame and riches earned
With you I'd watch them all be burned

This is my chance to release and
Be brave for you, you'll see
I can be
The queen you need me to be

etc

Just played the song and for some reason it went to a level i'd never felt it before.

Whenever I start feeling strong, I'm called a bitch in the night
But I don't need these 14-carat guns to win
I am a woman, I insist it's my life

[MonsterMosama]

.....

[Navin]

Last time I checked Gaga didn't just make an 'Its Get Better' video like her fellow stars.

[pika]

Originally posted by givemethatpop

No.

If people judges you according to your musical taste, then the problem is theirs. Stupidity was there before Gaga. If someone is as retarded to say you're gay because you like Lady Gaga, then that person has a serious problem.

Prejudices were always there and they don't feel like disappearing, sadly. If it wasn't Gaga, it would be another. Stop saying Gaga is making things worse by helping people who need it because some retarded at your high school has a so empty life to waste it bullying other people.

That's America in one sentence...
Anyways, I'll just ask a question. Do you personally feel that Gaga has nothing to do with the gay suicides/bullying rates going up?

[pika]

Originally posted by Thisisit

And this is why the monsters have such a bad name.

I'll take everyone through it slowly. Children raise your hand if you think homophobes and fence sitters won't be alienated by the following images







Shout if for one second you think the born this way video will appeal and connect to anyone who isn't a little monster or a gaga supporter, shout twice as loud if you think more conservative viewers will enjoy and relate to it.

Not think about how strongly Gaga associates herself with gay rights in the public eye. Do you think someone who doesn't follow pop culture and who is midly homophobic will change their mind by Gaga grossing them out? Do you understand now why people say Gaga has done more harm than good to the social acceptance of gays?? Is it now clear why so many in the gay community hate on Gaga despite her efforts to advocate their rights; because all she's done is isolate them even more and alienate people from the concept of "gay"?

I mean lord.

what i've been trying to say all along.

[JClarkSTAN]

Originally posted by Thisisit

And this is why the monsters have such a bad name.

I'll take everyone through it slowly. Children raise your hand if you think homophobes and fence sitters won't be alienated by the following images







Shout if for one second you think the born this way video will appeal and connect to anyone who isn't a little monster or a gaga supporter, shout twice as loud if you think more conservative viewers will enjoy and relate to it.

Not think about how strongly Gaga associates herself with gay rights in the public eye. Do you think someone who doesn't follow pop culture and who is midly homophobic will change their mind by Gaga grossing them out? Do you understand now why people say Gaga has done more harm than good to the social acceptance of gays?? Is it now clear why so many in the gay community hate on Gaga despite her efforts to advocate their rights; because all she's done is isolate them even more and alienate people from the concept of "gay"?

I mean lord.

You are ****ing insane.

[Legend ReX]

Originally posted by Thisisit

And this is why the monsters have such a bad name.

I'll take everyone through it slowly. Children raise your hand if you think homophobes and fence sitters won't be alienated by the following images







Shout if for one second you think the born this way video will appeal and connect to anyone who isn't a little monster or a gaga supporter, shout twice as loud if you think more conservative viewers will enjoy and relate to it.

Not think about how strongly Gaga associates herself with gay rights in the public eye. Do you think someone who doesn't follow pop culture and who is midly homophobic will change their mind by Gaga grossing them out? Do you understand now why people say Gaga has done more harm than good to the social acceptance of gays?? Is it now clear why so many in the gay community hate on Gaga despite her efforts to advocate their rights; because all she's done is isolate them even more and alienate people from the concept of "gay"?

I mean lord.

Exactly. Some of us just want to live our lives in peace but can't with people like this making a spectacle out of us. We're not all whiny queens. Good gracious.

[JoshBTW]

Originally posted by Thisisit

And this is why the monsters have such a bad name.

I'll take everyone through it slowly. Children raise your hand if you think homophobes and fence sitters won't be alienated by the following images







Shout if for one second you think the born this way video will appeal and connect to anyone who isn't a little monster or a gaga supporter, shout twice as loud if you think more conservative viewers will enjoy and relate to it.

Not think about how strongly Gaga associates herself with gay rights in the public eye. Do you think someone who doesn't follow pop culture and who is midly homophobic will change their mind by Gaga grossing them out? Do you understand now why people say Gaga has done more harm than good to the social acceptance of gays?? Is it now clear why so many in the gay community hate on Gaga despite her efforts to advocate their rights; because all she's done is isolate them even more and alienate people from the concept of "gay"?

I mean lord

I'm sure homophobes have more fun talking about men taking it up their butts than Gaga's weird clothes, if you know what I mean.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by pika

Anyways, I'll just ask a question. Do you personally feel that Gaga has nothing to do with the gay suicides/bullying rates going up?

FOR THE LAST ****ING TIME.

THE BULLYING RATE ISN'T GOING UP.

THE MEDIA IS COVERING IT MORE NOW.

I mean...LORD!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR ****ING SKULL.