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Stats: Lil Wayne debuts with 964k
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Billboard is so shady.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
So GaGa stans hate Lil Wayne now? I know you all are better than that.
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Nehhh. I dont hate him
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Originally posted by omgitsralph
We will not allow something so vicious and satanic to break our faves records.
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Both of our favs have the same trait then.
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Originally posted by $CBCOOL$
Both of our favs have the same trait then.
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NOPE
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Anybody who frequents blog sites will know that you can't go a day without seeing various celebrities being accused of being members of the Illuminati. Indeed, you will most often see variants in the comments section of the below examples:
'Illuminati wh***. Wake up, people!'
'There is so much symbolism in this video/photo/song it's ridiculous'
'Didn't you hear ______ say it him/her self on _____?'
'______ worships the devil'
'____ supports the devil/the illuminati/ the freemasons ' - or all three.
The funny thing is that, the vast majority of those making these claims are simply parroting what they've read on the internet, or (as is more common, nowadays) seen on YouTube videos. They actually have no clue about what the Illuminati actually is or what it stands for.
So, in the following argument we intend to attempt to separate the fact from the fiction, the reality from the folklore.
First off, the Illuminati - a term most like to throw around with no idea of its ramifications - has nothing to do with satanic worship or the Devil. In fact, it is a known fact among the learned that the word itself stems from the Latin 'illuminatus' which means 'enlightened'. It was originally used to refer to the Bavarian Illuminati - who were an Enlightenment-era secret society - and were made up of 'freethinkers'. It was in no way a 'secret club to worship the Devil'. In fact, many respected artists, architects and scientists of the day were members. Lastly, it only existed for about the span of a decade before its downfall.
So, just what is this 'Illuminati' that many refer to with such negativity? Well, there have been numerous writers who have fed conspiracy theorists' beliefs that the secret society didn't die out, but rather evolved and started focussing on something many of you will have heard about - the infamous 'New World Order' (or NWO as we will hereby be referring to it). According to these people, the Illuminati's Modus operandi implies that they are trying to implement an organisation to govern the planet as a whole - this NWO. Indeed many of these authors believe that the UN, first formed post WWII in 1945, was just the start of this implementation and that, at an unspecified time, the rest of the plan will fall into place.
This fear could be said to be rooted in the Book Of Ezekiel, the Book Of Daniel and the Book Of Revelations. These books asserted that humanity would fall under the the control of agents of the Devil and that, in turn, the Unholy Trinity (Satan, the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet) would be at the centre of an evil cult. In turn, some modern Christian conspiracy theorists have expanded on this claim, citing it as evidence for the creation of the UN and accusing the Pope, secretary-general of the UN and various gurus of the 'new-age' movement as being the incarnations of the Unholy Trinity. Indeed, this appears to be the central reasoning behind many people's belief that the Illuminati, or the very similar society, the Free Masons, are the realisation of the Bible's predictions.
However, on the other hand, one must question the so-called 'proof' many claim to have that the Illuminati/Free Masons are in fact the 'cult' the Bible was referring to. In truth, there is actually very little actual evidence that these groups are centred around Satanic worship or, in fact, still exist at all.
But, for the sake of argument, let us assume that these groups are still around and, as some claim, indeed want to implement this NWO. Isn't it therefore also safe to assume that, in order to achieve this, these groups will need three things; Money, Power and a Planetary Government?
Let us discuss the first. Money is something that is, for some, in abundance in the western hemisphere. If the Illuminati wants to have a strong support base and the funds for their worldwide takeover, they will have to have members with a lot of money. And this is where the first discrepancy over Jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna and company's alleged membership comes into play. The aforementioned artists simply don't have enough money to be of any real use. The Illuminati is going to want Bill Gates, Lakshmi Mittal type money - we're talking BILLIONS and multiple BILLIONS at that. Not the odd few hundred mill in the bank. They're going to need to convince those people to join, along with the owners of huge banks or companies such as JP Morgan, not rapstars and singers with a few #1s.
Secondly, Power. Let us face facts; much as we all love our favourite artists, Jay, Kanye, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Beyonce etc simply do not have the kind of power that matters to a centuries-old society whose main goal is to essentially take over the world. Sure, they can sell us music, concert tickets and, at the most, hair products, trainers and cars. But convincing almost 7 billion people to accept a planetary government? Do 7 billion people know these celebrities even exist? The kind of power the Illuminati will need is that of presidents, prime ministers, royal families - the people that can invoke real change by changing laws and signing world-changing treaties. In essence, they'll be aiming to recruit Barack Obama not Beyonce.
Lastly, a planetary government. If you honestly think the likes of Rihanna and Lady Gaga - fabulous as they are - would be able to implement such a thing, we genuinely pity you. At the most, they could create a record label. With a lot of luck, perhaps even a corporation as big as Rocafella or Bad Boy, but that's about it. They wouldn't be able to sign agreements or sit in the UN, let alone 'take over the world'. Again, you would need the likes of David Cameron and Barack Obama.
Just say it to yourself aloud, now: 'Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and Jay Z are all members of a secret society that want to take over the world'. It sounds ridiculous, because it is ridiculous. Even in the likelihood of such a 'cult' existing, we can almost guarantee you that enlisting popstars and other celebrities would not be at the top of their list of priorities. Simply having a few funny symbols in your videos or photos does not make you a devil worshipper.
And what does this say about us as a society? That we believe anybody successful must have signed a deal with the Devil to become so. As Christians, we know that anything and everything is possible with God. What does it say about your faith in Him if you believe that the only way one can succeed is via a pact with Satan?
Think about that, and the other points mentioned above, before accusing a musician of being a member of a shadowy secret society, a satanic tool, or both.
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http://www.no-shade.com/2010/08/arti...favourite.html
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Originally posted by omgitsralph
We will not allow something so vicious and satanic to break our faves records.
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The irony
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Member Since: 11/1/2010
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Thanks you god! I'm just happy as **** he only sold 964k rather than 1 million!
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Originally posted by ririgagalover
The irony
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Calling Wayne satanic? At least he scares you.
He's no teddy bear.
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Wayne still sold over 950K and has the 2nd best first week sales of the year ! Congrats and haters keep hating
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Oh, that's really unfortunate for his fans It would have been an impressive record. But his numbers are still amazing
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I'm glad it didn't do 1 million.
It didn't deserve to out peak The Carter III's first week sales.
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Originally posted by Rainbows
I'm glad it didn't do 1 million.
It didn't deserve to out peak The Carter III's first week sales.
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It wasn't going to either way.
I think HITS had IV @ 1,000,700. III was @ 1,005,000 or something like that.
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Originally posted by Dephira
Oh, that's really unfortunate for his fans It would have been an impressive record. But his numbers are still amazing
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None of us expected this to even do 800K. We're entirely pleased.
TCIV >>>> TCIII. 6 Foot 7 Foot & MegaMan alone >>>>
How to Love >>> Lollipop.
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Yea....
Stop hating on Wayne!
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Haters will keep hating on Wayne the fact remains his singles are smashing and his album is selling ... How many albums did your faves sell in their first week ? Has your faves ever sold 1 million first week ? That's what I thought !!
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Originally posted by YM8
Haters will keep hating on Wayne the fact remains his singles are smashing and his album is selling ... How many albums did your faves sell in their first week ? Has your faves ever sold 1 million first week ? That's what I thought !!
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1. How many albums did your faves sell in the first week? 2
2. Has your faves ever sold 1 million first week? Yes
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Member Since: 12/31/2010
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That kind of pisses me off that Billboard would allow that mistake to pass them. Still an amazing number, though.
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