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News: Serena Williams exposed as disgusting victim blamer.
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Member Since: 2/12/2012
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She shouldn't have put herself in that position, unless they slipped her something, then that's different.
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So she deserves to be raped because she passed out? Mess.
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Member Since: 2/18/2012
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So many people putting words in other peoples mouths.
It is NEVER right for a male to rape a female or for a female to rape a male. Period. No more or less to that, so that's clearly layed down and anyone who disagrees with that has some sort of problem.
We live in a day and age where sexual predators are at such a high advantage. In this very example, the girl was under the influence, and that's the key word. Influence. She was out of her own influence and being under the influence of drink puts her (or anyone for that matter) in a dangerous situation due to the type of people who are intentionally looking for young girls to take advantage of. It's not her fault she got raped, but, there are so many safety precautions young girls should take and think about as anything can happen in these situations. It's a lesson to be learned. Girls need to really make sure they're keeping themselves safe from these situations, sometimes these terrible things happen.
And this girl, while she went through something so terrible, she escaped death, which a lot of girls and women in the same situation can't say. In those terms, I really don't think Serena's "she's lucky" comment was overly terrible.
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Member Since: 3/3/2012
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
At least leave input of why you disagree. An emoticon is just immature with such a sensitive topic. Anyway, I don't know what else I can say to explain myself or how I took Serena's comments. Yes, rape is a horrible thing. No, I don't think it's right to blame the victim. But yes, I think it is OKAY to say "you have to make better decisions". What's so "  " about that?
It's general life lesson & I'm pretty sure her own parents and family discussed the same thing with her after the entire situation, and probably are a lot more strict about where she goes and what she does.
It's not punishing her, blaming her. It's further teaching. |
Basically, it is pretty naïve to think that some boys at a party are going to behave properly. If you go to a party you should think about what can happen especially if alcohol is involved.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by 8=K=A=Y=B=E=E=D
It's like saying someone who is bullied for being gay is wrong because they shouldn't be gay. |
WRONG.  More like gay bashers exist and dressing like a flamboyent homosexual increases your odds of getting beat up.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Serena, speak your mind 
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Long story short. Victim blaming is bad.
Parent's should teach their children not to rape in place of "Parents should teach girls not to wear revealing clothes at night/take drinks from strangers" etc. But I don't think rape is that bad in American culture. And the reality is, there will always be rapists, and we don't live in a perfect society. So she wasn't completely incorrect in saying that parent's should teach their young girls how to conduct themselves.
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Originally posted by Jack!
So many people putting words in other peoples mouths.
It is NEVER right for a male to rape a female or for a female to rape a male. Period. No more or less to that, so that's clearly layed down and anyone who disagrees with that has some sort of problem.
We live in a day and age where sexual predators are at such a high advantage. In this very example, the girl was under the influence, and that's the key word. Influence. She was out of her own influence and being under the influence of drink puts her (or anyone for that matter) in a dangerous situation for the type of people who are intentionally looking for young girls to take advantage of. It's not her fault she got raped, but, there are so many safety precautions young girls should take and think about as anything can happen in these situations. It's a lesson to be learned. Girls need to really make sure they're keeping themselves safe from these situations, sometimes these terrible things happen.
And this girl, while she went through something so terrible, she escaped death, which a lot of girls and women in the same situation can't say. In those terms, I really don't think Serena's "she's lucky" comment was overly terrible.
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The truth has been told
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by TheAqua
When I said you "reap what you sew",I wasn't referencing the ACTUAL girl,I'm talking about some of these hot tail little girls that get caught up in the wrong place and the wrong time. These things are bound to happen,you're just reading too hard into my post because you are overly sensitive. I didn't mean it in that way,so if i offend you and others I am truly sorry. The way I worded made it look wrong and harsh.
I can assure you,I'm not that cold blooded
You are right, promiscuity doesn't invite rape,never did i say it did. Though YOU keep putting words in my mouth Mr.Beyhive stan. I'm saying that you are more LIkELY to be raped,not that you deserve it.
Do you understand me NOW?
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Victim-blaming yet again, genius. 
You're STILL putting the victim at fault for another person's actions. No, you're not more likely to be raped because you sleep around. Children are raped, elderly people are raped, women who live in countries where they're basically a man's legal property and therefore never have a chance to be promiscuous get raped. Are they at fault too? As long you're a human among other humans (especially as a female), you're likely to be raped. There's nothing you can do to completely avoid it, and if it never happens to you it's due to sheer luck. It seems like you keep repeating yourself this lie as a way of lulling yourself into a false sense of security.
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by nicklada
ddddddddas;kkkkkdsja 
It does not matter omfg. Even if you have consensual sex with a new guy every day for a month that does NOT mean rape is still okay. Rape is never okay, it doesn't matter if the victim is promiscuous or a virgin. You don't do that ****, duh. |
You still missed the point. Never did say it's okay and that they deserve it,but "reap what you sew" meaning You hang out in that type of environment, you act reckless,it's morel likely to come back on you in a bad way,whether you deserve or not( most likely not)
You ARE MORE PRONE TO BEING RAPED.WHY CAN'T PEOPLE GRASP THIS.I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS OKAY,I SAID THE DRUNKER YOU ARE ,THE MORE VULNERABLE YOU BECOME!!!!!!!
AHHH IM BOUT OT RIP MY HAIR OUT!!!
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by Artemisia
You're more likely to be raped by going to a party at night, right? So women shouldn't go to parties.
You're also more likely to be raped by associating with men. So women shouldn't associate with men.
Do you see where this is going? There is literally no situation where you cannot make something up to blame the victim of a rape.
Instead of telling women to magically avoid rape, teach men what rape is and not to do it. Case ****ing closed.
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I'm trying to agree, but I just don't understand your logic. There is a difference between going to a party at night and going to a party at night and getting drunk to the point of passing out. It's a fact that, if someone tries to rape you, you have a better chance of fighting if you're SOBER. What chance do you have if you're completely drunk. Y'all are trying to act like we're spewing false statements. I'm NOT saying it's her fault, she deserved it, they shouldn't be punished, there's any excuse for rape, etc. etc.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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good ****ing bye serena vile human
and some rape apologists in this post are ****ing disgusting
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- If you leave your car unlocked, you are more likely to have it stolen.
- If you get very intoxicated, you are more likely to be assaulted.
We all have a responsibility to be careful, and I believe that's what Selena and members here are saying.
Unfortunately, young teens seem to forget the dangers of getting so wasted they don't know what's going on.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Starburst
WRONG. More like gay bashers exist and dressing like a flamboyent homosexual increases your odds of getting beat up. |
Either way, does that make it ok for the flamboyant homosexual to be bullied and abused?
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Nothing wrong with going out to party daaahling. I go out all the time. What I'm saying is if you go to that said party and get sloppy drunk,especially with people YOU DON'T KNOW THAT WELL then,yes you are more prone to being in danger.
When I go out it's usually with friends or at least one of my girlfriends .I hardly show up alone anywhere tbh.
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It doesn't matter if you know them or not. It still doesn't make it right for them to rape you. And let's not even get into how many people are raped by those they know WELL and trust.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Starburst
WRONG. More like gay bashers exist and dressing like a flamboyent homosexual increases your odds of getting beat up. |
and I bet you wouldn't tell someone who got beat up "well maybe you shouldn't have dressed like that".
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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. I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you—don't take drinks from other people. She's 16, why was she that drunk where she doesn't remember? It could have been much worse. She's lucky.
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Whats wrong with this?
This is COMMON ****ING SENSE.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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I will agree that going to a party you should keep watch over your own drink cause you never know.
I never leave my stuff unattended when i am out somewhere sometimes i don't drink at all and i don't accept offers from guys.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by KingBeyonce.
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damn straight if we want rape to end we have to hold the people 100% accountable for their actions not blame it on the victim
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Originally posted by Starburst
WRONG. More like gay bashers exist and dressing like a flamboyent homosexual increases your odds of getting beat up. |
Now what you are saying is stupid, we all have the rights to be whoever we want to be and there is no reason to hide yourself so you can please others.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by MM3
I'm trying to agree, but I just don't understand your logic. There is a difference between going to a party at night and going to a party at night and getting drunk to the point of passing out. It's a fact that, if someone tries to rape you, you have a better chance of fighting if you're SOBER. What chance do you have if you're completely drunk. Y'all are trying to act like we're spewing false statements. I'm NOT saying it's her fault, she deserved it, they shouldn't be punished, there's any excuse for rape, etc. etc.
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But going to a party surely makes you more vulnerable. Isn't that what this is all about? Putting yourself in the best situation to avoid rape? Wouldn't that involve not going to a party and not associating with men?
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