Oh, let me clarify. It just worked out that the years were separate. Definitely Alanis was massive in 1996, and I believe that it's possible to have two or more mega-stars at the same time (the Holy Trinity for instance).
Reiterating my point, I look forward for Beyoncι's BIG era that will earn the title of this thread. Maybe it will be her next era.
Give him a chance. At least he was able to give his opinion instead of the generalizations & fallacies he was throwing out earlier i.e. "Beyonce stans always think this & that, etc."
And, like i was saying to Eli - forget Rated R, because that's a non-issue - but we're never going to get a 1997-1998 pop season, will we? Mariah's Butterfly, Janet's The Velvet Rope, Madonna's Ray of Light and Kylie's Impossible Princess were all released within 6 months of each other. All were incredibly personal, and were bold new directions for each particular artist. Nowadays, introspection comes in the form of I Am ..., which only has two ballads - Halo and Satelites - that are worth anything. (The less said about crap like Britney's My Baby and 55% of Bionic, the better.)
Yeah unfortunately the only person who could give us something like that is probably Rihanna.
Nowadays, introspection comes in the form of I Am ..., which only has two ballads - Halo and Satellites - that are worth anything. (The less said about crap like Britney's My Baby and 55% of Bionic, the better.)
Yes she has the power, yes she has the money, yes she has the voice and the stage presence, the only thing missing is that her music is overall not good. Like somebody said you need to grow artistically to become a real legend, but I really think that the next album will be her artistic one: she just needs to stop singing about jay-z's dick
But the VMA's are about music videos....and they are hardly a defining representation on the quality of one's music.
It's definitely her defining moment thus far, as it's her most critically acclaimed album. But this is hardly about Rihanna and I regret bringing her up as a comparison point.
Well yes because to be the #1 diva you have to be VERY SUCCESSFUL it's about more than just talent.
She is very popular and all, but she is still not as popular as those women were in their top years. Numbers are numbers but I'm talking relevance and impact. Beyonce is doing very well but she is not untouchable, she is not even close to being "legendary" yet, it still feels like there's a lot she has to prove.
When somebody thinks of Beyonce, what do they think of? "Oh she's beautiful. Great performer. Nice ass too." Does that sound like the greatest diva of all time to you? Something I'd add is that the biggest diva has to be controversial. Beyonce is liked by just about everyone, she is completely safe and marketable. There have been zero risks taken in her career and no drama in her personal life. I'm not saying negatives like that are a good thing, but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend to be impressed by a catalog full of the same rehashed pop/R&B vanilla hit songs.
Don't start with the bolded please. I know you actually believe that, but I need more than just robotic precision to call someone the greatest performer ever.
Compared to the Whitneys and Madonnas, she is second tier. That's what I'm trying to say. Her star is not up there yet.
Sometimes I shake my head
When I'm laying down in my bed
Thinking 'bout the things been said
When you really don't know me yet
I had to stop reading at the sentence where she needed to be on drugs, have marriage problems, shave her head, kill someone, go to hail, get divorced, get into a fight, or kill herself in order to be a diva.
Do you think "Rated R" is better than "I Am...Sasha Fierce"?
Yes. In a word, yes. The really bad tracks (STUPID IN LOVE) I can delete immediately; I have a much harder time deleting anything Beyonce does and therefore have to suffer as aural wallpaper bores me to death.
Please stop...I don't care if your a Rihanna fan or not, but to stand here and pretend that, that album didn't reflect all that she went though over the past two years and her growth as a person and an artist is the definiton of being pressed.
You were so quick to pull an excerpt from Rolling Stone and use it as validation, well they even said that themselves and hailed it as one of the best pop records of the year
We got our guns, we got our guns, we got our guns in the mother****ing air.