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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (November 18-25, 2010)
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Originally posted by Jennifer
5th album, two massive smashes, tons of hype, and still can't break 200k in one of the busiest weeks of the year?
Really?
If Ri didn't have a hit, she would've sold like 50k. She's accumulated so many hits over the years, and has yet to build a solid fanbase. Her career is COMPLETELY dependent on radio airplay.
And what do you popstars like Rihanna? Popstars that have 8 #1 singles to their name? LOL.
Ke$ha sold 150k+ in JANUARY as a brand new artist off 1 hit. I'm willing to bet that the Cannibal EP / Animal re-release will also be much more successful than LOUD.
Rihanna & Katy Perry are the only two pop stars that struggle with selling albums. Katy is still fairly new so she gets a pass (for now). Rihanna is just...
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sis, kesha is on the same level if not worse she had her huge era with her first album (rihanna had it with her 3rd) and is not even able to go platinum. Plus WW she is never going to do much. You are making it look like it's only rihanna and katy perry. Everyone is struggling with sales except some acts that are able to lever on a specific fanbase and are huge on the media like taylor, gaga and susan boyle. the normal radio acts of the past all struggles. People need to storm the TV and become a media event to sell, and not everyone is able to do that
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Originally posted by Jennifer
RR wasn't a hit (I assume that's what you were trying to say), but "Hard" was taking off very quickly at the time of album release. She was also following the massive "Good Girl Gone Bad" era AND it was released on Thanksgiving week, where it was discounted to $6.99 on Black Friday. And still only 180k.
Why isn't Rihanna selling 400-500k like Beyonce & Britney? She has MORE hits than them, she has just as much hype, she has just as much promo (more compared to Brit), etc. It doesn't even have to be as much as them, but she should be selling somewhat close to them. 300k would be fine, but nope.
The weirdest part is that this 'issue' is USA only. Her worldwide sales are amazing, and on par with what they should be here. I just don't get it.
We'll see about the Ke$ha thing next week. Wouldn't surprise me if Cannibal + re-release is over 200k, probably closer to 250k IMO.
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Ok I got your point, but only pop stars like Britney, Beyonce and Taylor have had BIG opening numbers over the last 2 years, not even Pink could, so I think your "only Rihanna and Katy" opinion is still not valid
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Ke$ha surprised a lot of people with her 155k opener in January. It's possible that she could open up with 200k, though I'm not betting on it. Probably 170-180k...
As for the Hot 100, it should be interesting to see who comes out on top.
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IMO. USA classified Rihanna (and Katy & Ke$ha) as "Untalented Singles Artist" (they were OHW first) , Gaga proyected another image and that's why she sold that much...and if we look others Pop Artists, only Brit, Bey & P!nk are huge album sellers....At least Rih & Katy are doing good overseas :-/ Hopefully they can have a Very Solid Fanbase soon
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I really don't see Kesha having a massive opening week...her last album sold so well first week b.c tik tok BLEW UP. Meanwhile WRWWR has not made nearly as big an impact. I think ppl are forgetting that Tik Tok was around back in August of 09, and her album dropped in January of 2010. It won't sell as much as Animal, at least I don't think/hope (she's such trash)
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Member Since: 9/13/2010
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Originally posted by rihannar0x8
OG hit #2?
Im so happy!
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Ugh, I'm not; I come home to see this crap! What were the sales figures??? How close was it? Man, I'm pissed!!!
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Member Since: 10/10/2010
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I am happy that the peak didnt stay at number 3 and we have improved it........but I'm sad because Like a G6 song wasn't unbeatable...
Now I don't know what to do... Should I still focus on OG (the chances are lower because of Raise Your Glass) or should I focus on WMN.....or even WTC because it will come out next Tuesday as a David Guetta single.
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Originally posted by jack516
I am happy that the peak didnt stay at number 3 and we have improved it........but I'm sad because Like a G6 song wasn't unbeatable...
Now I don't know what to do... Should I still focus on OG (the chances are lower because of Raise Your Glass) or should I focus on WMN.....or even WTC because it will come out next Tuesday as a David Guetta single.
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...i'd give up on OG...on the bright side, it's had quite a run
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Originally posted by jack516
I am happy that the peak didnt stay at number 3 and we have improved it........but I'm sad because Like a G6 song wasn't unbeatable...
Now I don't know what to do... Should I still focus on OG (the chances are lower because of Raise Your Glass) or should I focus on WMN.....or even WTC because it will come out next Tuesday as a David Guetta single.
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Well, it's still not impossible for next week's chart if her sales keep up because she'll have the album version also, although it's way down in the list compared to both WMNs, but point being OG is still pretty much tied with LAG6. The problem is RYG, as you said, which is rapidly increasing in airplay. She still has a chance if she gives an epic performance on the AMAs, except Pink happens to be performing also. Sigh...
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I just can't.. P!nk and RiRi fans were discussing who of them will take #1 while LAG6 took that spot again.
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Only Girl peaked at 2 in its last real chance to get #1 AND predictions are below 200k...this has to be a horrible week for you guys {no shade intended}
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^Since when 2 singles inside the Top10 and a new peak at first week sales is a horrible week? L O L
The thing is that as fans we have always the best hopes and if its not the top is not good.
Rihanna is doing amazing. and a #2 and a #1 from the same album and keep her sales stable and increase for the 4th time the first week sales is not easy.
I am happy with how Loud is doing. Of course 200K and OG at #1 would be amazing... but 190K and #2 is also OUTSTANDING
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^^ hopes were pretty high for both of the things i named...clearly she isnt doing BAD, but it has to be underwhelming for a stan/fan
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Originally posted by csybeyking
^^ hopes were pretty high for both of the things i named...clearly she isnt doing BAD, but it has to be underwhelming for a stan/fan
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Well, I'm definitely a fan... I'm mad because out of all of Rihanna songs, I really think OG deserves #1. I don't think it's completely impossible still for next week, but I think Pink is coming in hard and fast on the airplay, and is already ahead in downloads. But ehhh, it wouldn't be the first time an epic song has been blocked from #1!!!
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Originally posted by PhoenixMaster95
Well, I'm definitely a fan... I'm mad because out of all of Rihanna songs, I really think OG deserves #1. I don't think it's completely impossible still for next week, but I think Pink is coming in hard and fast on the airplay, and is already ahead in downloads. But ehhh, it wouldn't be the first time an epic song has been blocked from #1!!!
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yeah the song was nice, outside of Disturbia & A Million Miles Away i'd say it was my favorite Rihanna song...but i think if WMN went number one then it just goes to show how stupid the american music buyers can be, OG is the best song on her album and miles better than WMN?
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Some people need to move on already. She's doing fine. If we fans can deal, I don't understand why certain people are too bothered about us (no shade intended)
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Originally posted by Jennifer
5th album, two massive smashes, tons of hype, and still can't break 200k in one of the busiest weeks of the year?
Really?
If Ri didn't have a hit, she would've sold like 50k. She's accumulated so many hits over the years, and has yet to build a solid fanbase. Her career is COMPLETELY dependent on radio airplay.
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What the hell are you talking about? She does have a solid fanbase: almost 200k people who've gone out and bought her album in its first week for her last three albums in a row. Sure, those aren't Beyonce and Britney numbers, but that's why those two are legendary superstars and no one else compares. Rihanna has good consistency, and hopefully this album will have good longevity too.
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Two disappointments in one week. I do not know how you Rih fans do it.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Jennifer is being a little rough with her statements, but she's telling the truth.
And Rihanna is on album #5 and has accumulated 8 #1 singles. She should be doing more than 180k first week.
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Poor Rihanna nothing.
She's had 3 1's this year.
The 1st one barely scraped by 2M. This has been discussed ad nauseam.
The 2nd one wasn't her song.
The 3rd one hit #1 while selling 230K, while songs that have sold 325K have stalled at #2.
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