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Celeb News: EW: Summer 2011 Winners & Losers (Music)
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Gaga has sold 4 million copies of BTW, has had a #1 single, a #3 single and a #10 single and soon to be another top 10 single. Please 
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Beyonce and particularly GaGa were so overhyped that it was practically impossible to meet the expectations. For example GaGa did just fine chart-wise, but when there are talks about "the album of the decade" this looks like utter fail.
Music quality also plays an important role. Nothing from this era (from Beyonce or GaGa) will be remembered in the years to come. They both released mediocre music. Adele would obviously overshadow them with her timeless sound.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Beyonce and particularly GaGa were so overhyped that it was practically impossible to meet the expectations. For example GaGa did just fine chart-wise, but when there are talks about "the album of the decade" this looks like utter fail.
Music quality also plays an important role. Nothing from this era (from Beyonce or GaGa) will be remembered in the years to come. They both released mediocre music. Adele would obviously overshadow them with her timeless sound.
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We know those are lies  Many people didn't even know (still don't know) about her album release. She didn't talked about it nor hyped it. It was all rushed.Don't even compare her hype to Gaga's. 
Mediocre because she didn't had huge smashes? Charts have nothing to do with quality. Check Metacritic and soon Grammys.
I know you hate Beyonce but try to think rationally, at least for minute
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Run The World and You And I video is lackluster? And Last Friday Night video isn't?
I can't
It is their opinion though
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Beyonce and particularly GaGa were so overhyped that it was practically impossible to meet the expectations. For example GaGa did just fine chart-wise, but when there are talks about "the album of the decade" this looks like utter fail.
Music quality also plays an important role. Nothing from this era (from Beyonce or GaGa) will be remembered in the years to come. They both released mediocre music.
Adele would obviously overshadow them with her timeless sound.
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Bey was not overhyped at all
And have you heard the album? It is as timeless as Adele's. Both of these albums will be remembered, IF she releases singles with more depth in them.
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Originally posted by Sammi
We know those are lies Many people didn't even know (still don't know) about her album release. She didn't talked about it nor hyped it. It was all rushed.Don't even compare her hype to Gaga's.
Mediocre because she didn't had huge smashes? Charts have nothing to do with quality. Check Metacritic and soon Grammys.
I know you hate Beyonce but try to think rationally, at least for minute |
I really don't hate Beyonce. I've been caught up in some stan-fights, but I've always said that I have respect for her.
I've listened to about half of the album and I must say that its bad. Her stans try to present it as if its full of classic songs, but its not. IASF was a much better album. The juvenile lyrics here just kill me. 1+1 lyrics or The Best Thing You've Never Had lyrics are cringe-worthy and those are tuneless songs. I enjoyed RTW a lot, but that song definitely didn't have a classic sound.
As for the hype, she was coming off of a huge era, her stans were hyping her up, she did enough promo, had great performances (a la Billboard). Saying that she wasn't hyped at all is not accurate. Of course by GaGa standards she did nothing, but lets not take GaGa as a comparison point. For industry standards, Beyonce was hyped.
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TD isn't at 4M yet (according to the only chart we have), despite 5 massive #1s, a year in release, incessant promo of all kind, incessant discounts, holiday sales, AOTY nomination, and all sorts of shenanigans from Capitol to keep the album - and Katy - in the spotlight 24/7.
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In US dear Nicole, not WW. Where album is about to hit 2x Platinum there. Her album is still Top 15 there.Her album is selling almost as Gaga's there and outselling many newer releases despite being 1 year old. Where album has sold over 20 million digital singles which make up perfectly for album sales. Billboard agrees with me. There's even an article.
Her singles weren't massive WW as in US. She's not huge name WW yet.
Teenage Dream is at 4,1 million WW. Check TD thread for receipts.
Katy Perry's success is clearly visible on Forbes where she made 44 million from May 2010-May 2011 and where she sits next to Angelina Jolie.
You tried. 
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
I really don't hate Beyonce. I've been caught up in some stan-fights, but I've always said that I have respect for her.
I've listened to about half of the album and I must say that its bad. Her stans try to present it as if its full of classic songs, but its not. IASF was a much better album. The juvenile lyrics here just kill me. 1+1 lyrics or The Best Thing You've Never Had lyrics are cringe-worthy and those are tuneless songs. I enjoyed RTW a lot, but that song definitely didn't have a classic sound.
As for the hype, she was coming off of a huge era, her stans were hyping her up, she did enough promo, had great performances (a la Billboard). Saying that she wasn't hyped at all is not accurate. Of course by GaGa standards she did nothing, but lets not take GaGa as a comparison point. For industry standards, Beyonce was hyped.
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I've stopped reading there.That's your opinion. Critics and many fans and other people beg to differ.
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Maybe beyonce should work With dr Luke to get that classic sound pink has 
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
I really don't hate Beyonce. I've been caught up in some stan-fights, but I've always said that I have respect for her.
I've listened to about half of the album and I must say that its bad. Her stans try to present it as if its full of classic songs, but its not. IASF was a much better album. The juvenile lyrics here just kill me. 1+1 lyrics or The Best Thing You've Never Had lyrics are cringe-worthy
and those are tuneless songs. I enjoyed RTW a lot, but that song definitely didn't have a classic sound.
As for the hype, she was coming off of a huge era, her stans were hyping her up, she did enough promo, had great performances (a la Billboard). Saying that she wasn't hyped at all is not accurate. Of course by GaGa standards she did nothing, but lets not take GaGa as a
comparison point. For industry standards, Beyonce was hyped.
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Hyped by her stans, big deal. Every stan hypes up their faves album. But since when have you seen the world talking about '4'? Almost nobody knew she had an album out until she revealed her pregnancy. Now, a lot of people/critics have listened and loved the album. I don't see how it should bs in the bottom?
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Originally posted by quiqui4eva
Hyped by her stans, big deal. Every stan hypes up their faves album. But since when have you seen the world talking about '4'? Almost nobody knew she had an album out until she revealed her pregnancy. Now, a lot of people/critics have listened and loved the album. I don't see how it should bs in the bottom?
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This. 
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Its kind of strange to hear about a Beyonce album not being known to the world. You guys claim that she's the biggest superstar to walk on the planet. She had the same conditions as any other girl plus a little more.
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Originally posted by quiqui4eva
Hyped by her stans, big deal. Every stan hypes up their faves album. But since when have you seen the world talking about '4'? Almost nobody knew she had an album out until she revealed her pregnancy. Now, a lot of people/critics have listened and loved the album. I don't see how it should bs in the bottom?
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I disagree. People knew that her album was coming out, let's not. A lot of people were just turned off by "Run The World (Girls)" but people knew.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Its kind of strange to hear about a Beyonce album not being known to the world. You guys claim that she's the biggest superstar to walk on the planet. She had the same conditions as any other girl plus a little more.
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People have lives!
....now can we move on?
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Maybe beyonce should work With dr Luke to get that classic sound pink has |
Doesn't she work with famous hitmakers too? Dr Luke is big for pop rock girls, and there are producers who are producing a hit after hit for more R'n'B leaning artists. Its not like she works with complete unknowns.
And the irony of your avatar 
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All I'm gonna say is, karma is real and truest bitch of all them all.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Doesn't she work with famous hitmakers too? Dr Luke is big for pop rock girls, and there are producers who are producing a hit after hit for more R'n'B leaning artists. Its not like she works with complete unknowns.
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But did she ask those producers to gave this classic sound uses by the likes of avril Lavigne or Kelly clarkson before her 
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Nothing but the true tea.. 
KATY!!!  
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I'm sorry, but as much as I love these two, EW didn't lie. Their videos this era so far been their worst to date, and their choices of singles were confusing and disappointing as ****. And honestly, if I were to have judged the entire 4 album solely on RTW, I would've thought that the album would be ****. Thankfully, this isn't the case at all, though it's completely understandable that the song bombed on the charts. But unfortunately, Beyonce continues to pick the wrong singles for the wrong time.
And as for BTW, not only have the singles been disappointing (except for Y&I), but even the album itself is lackluster. And it's not just the fact that Gaga hyped it as the best album of the decade (though that statement will definitely hurt the album's legacy in the long run), it's that after the epicness that was The Fame Monster, I really expected her to take things to a whole new level with this album, and she's totally let me down on that front.
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