I hate to have to point these things out as a fan, but...
*Her public image is still too childish/Disney to sell very well. To people who point to Miley to say that I'm wrong, note that Miley obvs has a more varied audience now (kids, 14-20 year old tumblr kids, older buyers getting the album for their kids, etc.) while Demi mainly just has a smaller crowd of kids, teen girls, and gays.
*Demi/her image is not very memorable or distictive, which is very important. Almost every pop star needs some sort of image in order to be recognized by the public (Gaga has the odd art student image, Bey has her fierce glamazonian Goddess image, Miley has the "ratchet" twerking weed-smoking tumblr swag image, etc). Some musical growth, better music videos, etc. can fix that
*Her label is kinda ****. She can have multiple hits (Demi itself has 5-7 commercially viable songs), but her label doesn't know how to promote and when to send songs to radio and stuff like that.
She + Selena need to both leave Hollywood Records tbh. It's good for growing Disney artists like Ariana and Zendaya, but you can't base more than 4-7 years of your career on it and expect to be in the big leagues imo. I would love to see Demi do Breakaway/The Truth About Love-eqsue pop rock for her next album. It's stuff that seems to be in her niche, but would still do well. idk
I don't really wanna continue on this Ariana vs Demi but what makes you think her next album is bound to do well when all of her singles after The Way underperformed?
Nobody but her stans care about her. And her uber-preachy attitude and tendency to relate everything back to all about her and her issues are a huge turnoff.
there are no excuses, god you're so dense if you really think Ariana is not gonna sell another 120k of her album when she already did 400k+ in less than a year then you're gripping onto an illusion. of course older albums get a boost when a new one is released. Don't Forget would've never sold 500k if Demi just retired after that era.
it took her 6 years to sell 500k and the sales have stopped (yeah selling a couple of hundreds weekly means it's stopped selling). you really think in a few years Ariana can't come up with 120k to surpass her? good luck with that.
Yes she sold 400k when the era was still active 120k is gonna be HARD when she's like 182 on billboard and fell like 70 places and is about to fall off the chart.
It took her 2 years to sell 500k not 6 and plus even the NL tour bumped this album on iTunes and Amazon.
all i'm saying is that yours truly will fall under 1k in a couple of months and it will be really hard to outsell it when you're selling like 600 copies more each week
Her highest peak is #9 & that was in the 2nd week of the songs chart run. Her non-lead single GYHAB is 3x platinum. Her promo single which was released after the first 2 singles of her debut album sold 1,031,000 copies without hype, first week sales, radio or promo (apart from Ellen)
GYHAB is not 3x platinum it's only 2x platinum and sold 2,056,000 copies. Let's not.
I don't really wanna continue on this Ariana vs Demi but what makes you think her next album is bound to do well when all of her singles after The Way underperformed?
Agreed.
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But anyways maybe because the GP just don't like her music much? GYHAB is a perfect example. I mean it even got promoted on American Idol and it didn't even help the song much. It reached like 110AI ? and it barely crossed 2,000,000 after all those radio spins and promotion. She just needs better songs i'll say.
I hate to have to point these things out as a fan, but...
*Her public image is still too childish/Disney to sell very well. To people who point to Miley to say that I'm wrong, note that Miley obvs has a more varied audience now (kids, 14-20 year old tumblr kids, older buyers getting the album for their kids, etc.) while Demi mainly just has a smaller crowd of kids, teen girls, and gays.
*Demi/her image is not very memorable or distictive, which is very important. Almost every pop star needs some sort of image in order to be recognized by the public (Gaga has the odd art student image, Bey has her fierce glamazonian Goddess image, Miley has the "ratchet" twerking weed-smoking tumblr swag image, etc). Some musical growth, better music videos, etc. can fix that
*Her label is kinda ****. She can have multiple hits (Demi itself has 5-7 commercially viable songs), but her label doesn't know how to promote and when to send songs to radio and stuff like that.
She + Selena need to both leave Hollywood Records tbh. It's good for growing Disney artists like Ariana and Zendaya, but you can't base more than 4-7 years of your career on it and expect to be in the big leagues imo. I would love to see Demi do Breakaway/The Truth About Love-eqsue pop rock for her next album. It's stuff that seems to be in her niche, but would still do well. idk
Hey look! An answer that isn't flamebait, misguided or a complete mess! Take note ATRL.
She still hasn't outsold her after 3 singles? I'm surprised.
Considering Selena's singles were obviously MUCH MUCH more successful according to Selenators, and one single flopped from DEMI I'd say outselling her is pretty surprsing.
Her sound os confusing. Her image is confusing. Her music is overall confusing and people don't know what to do with her. She's just there doing stuff. She's not great at anything or bad at anything. She's just in the middle but she doesn't stand out from her peers. She has some really nice songs but her image is just a bit over the place. She's all over the place and yet she's nowhere. She needs to find something she really feels great doing. I like her and she's very very talented but she needs to step up her game and keep her mouth quiet and her fingers rested more. She rants too much on twitter about her and her eating disorder. She is a bit annoying sometimes.
Yes she sold 400k when the era was still active 120k is gonna be HARD when she's like 182 on billboard and fell like 70 places and is about to fall off the chart.
It took her 2 years to sell 500k not 6 and plus even the NL tour bumped this album on iTunes and Amazon.
all i'm saying is that yours truly will fall under 1k in a couple of months and it will be really hard to outsell it when you're selling like 600 copies more each week
so Yours Truly will never get a boost from promotion/touring/a new era but Don't Forget will get a benefit from these same factors?
@ you dragging your own argument with "it took only 2 years to hit 500k" when it's sitting at 530k (at best) currently yet you're still going on about how "it's still selling!!!"
there's such a thing as discounts and promotion. if it took Ariana 1 year to sell 400k and Demi supposedly "2 years" to sell 500k, I don't see how she won't outsell her. you're just in denial over something that clearly has a high chance of happening.
I don't really wanna continue on this Ariana vs Demi but what makes you think her next album is bound to do well when all of her singles after The Way underperformed?
The same could be said about Demi, quit acting like Demi is some amazing seller because if she was this thread wouldn't have been made.
Ariana is actually quite interesting and her music hits a wider demo, which will probably cause her to be bigger than Demi although that won't take much doing and with half the effort