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Discussion: Katy Perry sets new record
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Originally posted by GotSkill
Born This Way dropped completely off the charts though, it had like 0 longevity. It didn't happen.
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You're using subjective qualitative claims to refute quantitative conjecture.
Your argument didn't happen.
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Originally posted by GotSkill
Meanwhile in the US aka a relevant market, Dark Horse is #96 and Roar is #191.
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MEANWHILE those 2 songs are pretty much BRAND NEW compared to some of these songs that were released almost 5 and 4 years ago  and katy just performed those 2 songs in front of BILLIONS of people, I would seriously worried if they weren't up in the top 200
but carry on thinking the US = the World
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
Still not seeing any receipts bb
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I'd post the breakdowns if I was on my phone
it sold 2.5M from two countries and its still charting in a lot of countries too
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
WTH is going on in here 
its incredibly obvious Katy's first 2 singles didn't sell 10M
but slay Katy getting one of the worst written songs in history and possibly the worst in your discography to 10M
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Your fave isn't even arguably in this conversation and you're a known Katy troll so what are you doing here
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Originally posted by Retro
You're using subjective qualitative claims to refute quantitative conjecture.
Your argument didn't happen.
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You're doing the exact same things and your use of vaguely mathematical words doesn't change that
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Still no receipts...
I mean id be happy to congratulate her if this were real (I love Katy and I don't wanna seem like a pressed monster) but this is dumb  someone provide receipts or close this thread
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
WTH is going on in here
its incredibly obvious Katy's first 2 singles didn't sell 10M
but slay Katy getting one of the worst written songs in history and possibly the worst in your discography to 10M
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what song is that???
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Originally posted by PhreshDiamond
MEANWHILE those 2 songs are pretty much BRAND NEW compared to some of these songs that were released almost 5 and 4 years ago and katy just performed those 2 songs in front of BILLIONS of people, I would seriously worried if they weren't up in the top 200
but carry on thinking the US = the World |
It may not be the world, but it is where half of all our faves' sales are. So my US receipts > your Turkey receipts 
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Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan
Dark Horse is discounted.
And US is not the only relevant market, ignorant.
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I MEAN
small minded people that think the US is the only place where people buy music
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TD (song) not selling 10m 
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Originally posted by GotSkill
Meanwhile in the US aka a relevant market, Dark Horse is #96 and Roar is #191.
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*bookmarks*
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Queen just keeps winning. 
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Originally posted by GotSkill
You're doing the exact same things and your use of vaguely mathematical words doesn't change that
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Um, no, actually; there are actual numbers related to my argument (those being the 8.2m sales according to IFPI, the 500k sold in the US after that, and the 400k+ sold in Japan after that, the latter two having been provided by a friendly monster). Yours is just "but the longevity tho."
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Originally posted by GotSkill
It may not be the world, but it is where half of all our faves' sales are. So my US receipts > your Turkey receipts |
Actually Rihanna unlike everyone else's "fave" has global appeal and half her sales don't always come from US, but try again
and my point was aimed at the delusional gaga stan, not the katy kats so take a damn seat
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Only 2 of those have sold 10 million the others aren't even close
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
I'd post the breakdowns if I was on my phone
it sold 2.5M from two countries and its still charting in a lot of countries too
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Let's hope this inaccurate thread remains open till then because I'd LOVE to see the official receipts.
And please don't bother posting your estimations because even I can do that
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Originally posted by Retro
I got bored and did this:
1) Firework 13,100,000
2) Roar 12,400,000
3) California Gurls 11,200,000
4) Hot n Cold 11,150,000
5) E.T. 10,150,000
6) I Kissed a Girl 10,150,000
7) Teenage Dream 8,800,000
8) Dark Horse 7,100,000
9) Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) 6,500,000
10) Wide Awake 5,600,000
11) Part of Me 5,200,000
12) The One That Got Away 4,200,000
13) Waking Up in Vegas 3,500,000
14) Thinking of You 1,800,000
15) Unconditionally 1,600,000
And I don't mean I just whipped up these estimations or pulled them out of my ass; it takes a long time for me to do global estimates like these.
Basically I used models of Roar, IKAG, and Cali Gurls' sales in the us and applied the approximate growth rates to their IFPI sales to derive a global total, and from there used a model to estimate global sales of each other track by summing all the known, verified sales of every track and deriving with that a multiplier from the aforementioned three IFPI entrants' statistics.
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Retro's OWN estimation early last year
What changed your mind?
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Originally posted by GotSkill
Your fave isn't even arguably in this conversation and you're a known Katy troll so what are you doing here
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I was interested in what Katy's record was and wanted to congratulate ha 
What were you doing in the Beyonce vs Taylor better body thread huh? exactly, sit.
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Originally posted by Sinister
what song is that???
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Dark Horse. isn't that what this thread is about?
besides the false claims of 210M sold singles every era
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Originally posted by Retro
In 2015? Okay. And how about between all but two countries on Earth throughout 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 so far?
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The updated sales from individual countries added together don't push it to 10M. They don't even take it to the 9M mark. This is why I keep asking for a breakdown. The song basically had its entire chart run and most of its catalog sales counted by IFPI because it was released so early in the year.
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Originally posted by Bounce
Katy's only 10m selling songs are Firework and Roar.
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Nobody seems to be as vocal and ready to share these.
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At this thread somehow turning into a three-way stan argument. 
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