[cherrygoddess]

Originally posted by Shigo

HA I KNEW SHE LIED!!

she didnt lie though.... only about him NOT assaulting her or harming her under fear.

[Retro]

Originally posted by hardbrit

Yet continued to work with him? make music with him? stay with him all these years?

Because she was scared of him on both a business level and a personal level? Because he painted himself as her only viable path to success in music?

[Retro]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

she claimed she was roofed when she was 18, no? so this perfectly negates her lawsuit, hence why her lawyer is panicking and trying to keep it sealed

WTF? It does not negate her case whatsoever. Not even close.

[RihannaRTT]

I have a question. If the victim was a male and the accused was a female, would ya'll still be the same way? Or is it just the stereotype of a male sexually abusing a female that ya'll are clearly convinced by?

She has absolutely no proof and this just makes it worse that she lied under oath. Surely if something this serious was going on, that would have been the perfect time to say, "you know what this has been going on and it needs to stop now".

I don't see how people can make such concrete decisions and will take the "victim"'s side. Just because a victim claims something, doesn't make it true. Does this mean I should go claiming the people I hate sexually abused me so they get locked up without trial? No, that's why we have trials; so the evidence can be laid before a judge or jury. One person's words are worth no more than another person's words.

Obviously, if he is guilty, then it was a horrible thing to do and he should be locked up. But he remains innocent until proven guilty. People need to remember that. The jury, at the end of the day, will make the final decision. I'm sure they will make the right one according to the circumstances and evidence at the time of the ruling.



Also this gif is perfect tbh

[Superbitch]

Remember her lawyer said more people are coming forward in this case let's wait and see what happens with that.

[rac7d]

Originally posted by Retro

Because she was scared of him on both a business level and a personal level? Because he painted himself as her only viable path to success in music?

Well if she is lyying not only will they never work together, but no other man in the idustry would. He would also probably keep her under contract and let her rot

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by RihannaRTT

I have a question. If the victim was a male and the accused was a female, would ya'll still be the same way? Or is it just the stereotype of a male sexually abusing a female that ya'll are clearly convinced by?

She has absolutely no proof and this just makes it worse that she lied under oath. Surely if something this serious was going on, that would have been the perfect time to say, "you know what this has been going on and it needs to stop now".

I don't see how people can make such concrete decisions and will take the "victim"'s side. Just because a victim claims something, doesn't make it true. Does this mean I should go claiming the people I hate sexually abused me so they get locked up without trial? No, that's why we have trials; so the evidence can be laid before a judge or jury. One person's words are worth no more than another person's words.

Obviously, if he is guilty, then it was a horrible thing to do and he should be locked up. But he remains innocent until proven guilty. People need to remember that. The jury, at the end of the day, will make the final decision. I'm sure they will make the right one according to the circumstances and evidence at the time of the ruling.



Also this gif is perfect tbh

yep either she committed perjury or she has no actual proof in either case

and really, everyone is rushing and jumping the gun simply because Dr. Luke is powerful and male This just reflects most people's desire to side with the weaker side regardless of evidence and trials.

[YouBetterPopBitch]

My first reaction was : "Wait... What ? Kesha sis, you just could not have lied about this"...
Then, "why these questions were been asked to Kesha in 2011 ?"

But if you're thinking about it, if back in 2011, she was asked to answer to these questions, she's definitely telling the thruth now. She answered "no" cause she probably wanted to protect him (they seemed to have a close relationship back then). It was before Warrior and all the mess that followed, so she was close to Luke, she was successful and had no reasons to get out of the contract. She probably swore to him that she'll never talk about what happened, by fear. Why would she have ****ed up everything at this point of her career ?

Anyway, this is such a horrible, ugly mess...

[Grumpy Gills]

Originally posted by Ressti

No?

"Did Dr. Luke ever give you a roofie?"

People willing take roofies, all kinds of other drugs. language is super important in these kind of cases. **** can be implied but when it comes down to it, she was asked if she was given it not if she was ever given one against her will.

Now her lawyers can argue that she never took it but was given it against her will. Which is why she said no when asked, but that again opens up the argument of her saying she never thought he drugged her.

[Sinister]

Originally posted by rac7d

So basicly its a game of who can out smart each other in court then


At this point then she gonna need physical evidence if she want ot win
otherwise......

that's how American law works...it all depends on who has the better lawyer and who can defend their clients case better

that's why we have guilty criminals that get acquitted...it all falls on the lawyer
and Ke$ha has a very good one and Dr. Luke too has the money for the best of the best as well

this **** will be very messy...and it's only going to get uglier as time goes by

[NLX]

Originally posted by RihannaRTT

I have a question. If the victim was a male and the accused was a female, would ya'll still be the same way? Or is it just the stereotype of a male sexually abusing a female that ya'll are clearly convinced by?

What does that have to do with anything?

[KORDEI]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

The fact that she had to answer these questions in 2011 speaks volumes. She's definitely telling the truth.

That's what I get from this as well. Like Nicole pointed out, I don't see why he had her swearing under oath in 2011 in the first place.

[Sinister]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

she claimed she was roofed when she was 18, no? so this perfectly negates her lawsuit, hence why her lawyer is panicking and trying to keep it sealed

we can't even jump to that conclusion because we don't even know the context of what the 2011 situation is based upon

[cherrygoddess]

Originally posted by RihannaRTT

I have a question. If the victim was a male and the accused was a female, would ya'll still be the same way? Or is it just the stereotype of a male sexually abusing a female that ya'll are clearly convinced by?

She has absolutely no proof and this just makes it worse that she lied under oath. Surely if something this serious was going on, that would have been the perfect time to say, "you know what this has been going on and it needs to stop now".

I don't see how people can make such concrete decisions and will take the "victim"'s side. Just because a victim claims something, doesn't make it true. Does this mean I should go claiming the people I hate sexually abused me so they get locked up without trial? No, that's why we have trials; so the evidence can be laid before a judge or jury. One person's words are worth no more than another person's words.

Obviously, if he is guilty, then it was a horrible thing to do and he should be locked up. But he remains innocent until proven guilty. People need to remember that. The jury, at the end of the day, will make the final decision. I'm sure they will make the right one according to the circumstances and evidence at the time of the ruling.



Also this gif is perfect tbh

girl just because she has no proof that he roofied her and secually abused her doesnt mean that it didnt happen. Kesha is smart enough not to lie about something this serious. And just because the jury says hes innocent doesnt mean he really is, if it does, does that mean Zimmerman was innocent? like bye

[iLays]

But what about that tweet from Bonnie?

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

That's what I get from this as well. Like Nicole pointed out, I don't see why he had her swearing under oath in 2011 in the first place.

Kesha and Luke were both being sued by her former manager.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/21/kesha-...#ixzz3GopDdmDf

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[SneakerNerd]

Originally posted by brandensuxx

then you're a ****ing disgusting human being

*gasp* I'm simply just trying to make the most of the night like we're gonna die young.

Whose to say Kesha isn't fabricating some things? We don't know.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by cherrygoddess

girl just because she has no proof that he roofied her and secually abused her doesnt mean that it didnt happen. Kesha is smart enough not to lie about something this serious. And just because the jury says hes innocent doesnt mean he really is, if it does, does that mean Zimmerman didnt shoot Trayvon? like bye

Your understanding of the law

That wasn't even what the zimmerman case was about it's about whether he had the right to shoot him out of self defense. No one denied that he shot the poor boy

[Miley Cyrus]

This is getting very annoying.

[Grumpy Gills]

Originally posted by rac7d

So basicly its a game of who can out smart each other in court then


At this point then she gonna need physical evidence if she want ot win
otherwise......

Yup that's basically what these kind of cases boil down to and since it's not a criminal case, the burden of proof is on Kesha. Luke doesn't have to prove he didn't do anything, all he has to do is create enough doubt about her credibility which this document is sure to help do.