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News: China to build TALLEST building in the world in 90 DAYS
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imagine the catastrophic result if this fails  noooooooooooo
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As a student of architecture, this is fu**ing disgusting and ugly as hell. It absolutely obliterates the skyline and discredits that architecture firm for the rest of humanity. Architecture isn't a race to the top anymore. This is not a design, it's a formula.
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by Archetype
As a student of architecture, this is fu**ing disgusting and ugly as hell. It absolutely obliterates the skyline and discredits that architecture firm for the rest of humanity. Architecture isn't a race to the top anymore. This is not a design, it's a formula.
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Architecture isn't only about design, it's about efficiency and China needs that right now more than anything.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by ViTiLiGO
Architecture isn't only about design, it's about efficiency and China needs that right now more than anything.
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Architecture is design. Efficiency is an inseparable element of good, modern design. As in, this building is a design failure. As in, design is everything that you see and do not see.
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I am excited for this. Hope it won't fail.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by KT&T
I am excited for this. Hope it won't fail.
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Excited for what exactly? How does this benefit anyone besides the construction workers who get paid?
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by Archetype
Architecture is design. Efficiency is an inseparable element of good, modern design. As in, this building is a design failure. As in, design is everything that you see and do not see.
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They're not worrying about the tower looking pretty, they're worrying about it being able to safely carry 31 thousand people and provide lots of floor space, design sometimes impairs this.
And the tower is not THAT ugly, yall be doing the most.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by ViTiLiGO
They're not worrying about the tower looking pretty, they're worrying about it being able to safely carry 31 thousand people and provide lots of floor space, design sometimes impairs this.
And the tower is not THAT ugly, yall be doing the most.
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Except 31 thousand people do not need to occupy this building. Where are those 31 thousand people right now? Oh, right, in another building that isn't this large. Second of all, good design should never impair a certain amount of floor space, if that is what the building requires. Do you see how this building is essentially stacked and scaled rectangular prisms? Yes, you do. That is due to the lack of proper design that is put into this building. Everyone knows that curved or angular structures dissipate wind around the building instead of the flat, confrontational edges of this building, which moves the wind only up and down. This requires unnecessary structural reinforcements which hinders the overall rigidity of the structure and the ability to actually create a unique and iconic design. This is a failure.
Second of all, a more cost efficient and safer way to carry 31 thousand people is to build a horizontal skyscraper, which is what the architectural world is beginning to focus on. The verticality of this building will require significantly more funds to construct than a horizontal building. The money saved could have allowed the contractor to hire a better architecture firm to design the building so people don't frown at the sight of their workplace.
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They're not worrying about the tower looking pretty, they're worrying about it being able to safely carry 31 thousand people and provide lots of floor space, design sometimes impairs this.
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No. They are worrying about completing this project in 90 days. That is the point of this structure. They created a game out of something that is going to be potentially permanent.
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^^ Dude... Did you even know China has been suffering from over population in the last couple of years? It's only logical they would start building up and building up BIG. Second of all, there is absolutely nothing wrong with rectangular prisms being stacked on top of one another, it all comes down to personal taste. Some people might like the minimalism, others won't but to say that just because of this, the structure won't be unique or iconic is stupid. This building can become iconic just by it's sheer size and height, it doesn't need anything else.
You lack logical reasons to dislike this building, all i've got from your posts is "this is ugly, this is disgusting".
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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Originally posted by ViTiLiGO
^^ Dude... Did you even know China has been suffering from over population in the last couple of years? It's only logical they would start building up and building up BIG. Second of all, there is absolutely nothing wrong with rectangular prisms being stacked on top of one another, it all comes down to personal taste. Some people might like the minimalism, others won't but to say that just because of this, the structure won't be unique or iconic is stupid. This building can become iconic just by it's sheer size and height, it doesn't need anything else.
You lack logical reasons to dislike this building, all i've got from your posts is "this is ugly, this is disgusting".
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by ViTiLiGO
^^ Dude... Did you even know China has been suffering from over population in the last couple of years? It's only logical they would start building up and building up BIG. Second of all, there is absolutely nothing wrong with rectangular prisms being stacked on top of one another, it all comes down to personal taste. Some people might like the minimalism, others won't but to say that just because of this, the structure won't be unique or iconic is stupid. This building can become iconic just by it's sheer size and height, it doesn't need anything else.
You lack logical reasons to dislike this building, all i've got from your posts is "this is ugly, this is disgusting".
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This building will become iconic because it will be known as the ugliest tall building constructed in recent years. It has nothing to do with overpopulation, considering only the wealthiest members of society will be able to obtain space within this thing. If the issue was so pressing in this city, the surrounding park area would be littered with apartment buildings. Stacking rectangles in a literal, predictable way was a topic of the 1960's and 1970 in Manhattan. Stacking rectangles is an easy way to rush construction, aka, why this building is being created. Here are some examples of nicely designed modern buildings.
Those are all examples of design done right.
This monstrosity below is not. It is a demonstration of power and . If you disagree, then I guess I'm glad you're not an architect.
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Originally posted by Archetype
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Don't see a difference between the "design being right" buildings and the one being planned n China
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Don't see a difference between the "design being right" buildings and the one being planned n China
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I am very, very sorry.
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Originally posted by Archetype
I am very, very sorry.
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You mind explaining the reason behind it then? Instead of being a wise jack azz?
mhm ok after reading one of your posts I see why you have a problem with it, but i'm sure this would be all put into consideration
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Originally posted by Archetype
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It has EVERYTHING to do with overpopulation, that's the only reason they're building it 
Your opinion =/= fact.
There are a lot of rectangular structures around the world that are just as modern and beautiful as the ones you posted.
Like i said, it's all a matter of taste and i think this looks great
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Originally posted by ViTiLiGO
It has EVERYTHING to do with overpopulation, that's the only reason they're building it
Your opinion =/= fact.
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No. It has nothing to do with overpopulation. If it did, you wouldn't have one gigantic structure holding this many people. Have you ever thought about how those people get to and from their apartment? Via the same streets and form of transportation? To this one, central location? Smart!!
What about the people who can't afford to live in the world's tallest building? Isn't that, hmm, most of China? Oh, so I guess they can't live here. Wow, that's really solving the overpopulation problems! What about the state of mind for this project? You say overpopulation means build up? What happens when you replicate this strategy and place 4 or 5 more structures around this one? Let's forget about the environment, because that's not important. What about LEED certification? Oh, it's too expensive to build something that efficient in China. Perhaps it would just be better to forget about architecture when looking at this building.
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
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Originally posted by Archetype
No. It has nothing to do with overpopulation. If it did, you wouldn't have one gigantic structure holding this many people. Have you ever thought about how those people get to and from their apartment? Via the same streets and form of transportation? To this one, central location? Smart!!
What about the people who can't afford to live in the world's tallest building? Isn't that, hmm, most of China? Oh, so I guess they can't live here. Wow, that's really solving the overpopulation problems! What about the state of mind for this project? You say overpopulation means build up? What happens when you replicate this strategy and place 4 or 5 more structures around this one? Let's forget about the environment, because that's not important. What about LEED certification? Oh, it's too expensive to build something that efficient in China. Perhaps it would just be better to forget about architecture when looking at this building.
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Actually by having human populations live in closer proximity it reduces the effect on the environment. If more people lives in a city or high densely populated area it frees up land that can be given back to the wilderness. With more suburbs the only thing that is happening is more land is being used for human development which constricts wildlife movement and the ecosystem.
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