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News: Israel–Gaza conflict | Over 1000 civilians killed in GAZA!
Member Since: 5/11/2007
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Originally posted by Celestial
What did you think was going to happen? The world is changing rapidly, and the credit crunch/global recession is going to cause major tension
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I really let these things eat away at me. But this planet is ****ed. Obama needs to change the bad press America are getting, so they are not involved, because if they're involved in a war, there's a 50/50 chance that Gordon Brown will follow on hook line and sinker, and be involved too. I seriously cannot take this. Credit Crunch has messed up things financially. I can totally see rations being handed out like in the first and second World war.
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by KingofBrits
I really let these things eat away at me. But this planet is ****ed. Obama needs to change the bad press America are getting, so they are not involved, because if they're involved in a war, there's a 50/50 chance that Gordon Brown will follow on hook line and sinker, and be involved too. I seriously cannot take this. Credit Crunch has messed up things financially. I can totally see rations being handed out like in the first and second World war.
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We'll be ****ed if Gordon doesn't **** off. I liked him at first but my god the man is as stupid as he is ugly. David Cameron needs to take over, and now. We need to stop this downward spiral now, or we may not recover our position in the world. Britain has always been a leading global power. There's not much signs of a full on war, I think this conflict could die down for a while. Russia is also another problem, but it would help if the west would listen to Russia. The press here is so biased against Russia
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Member Since: 5/11/2007
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Originally posted by Celestial
We'll be ****ed if Gordon doesn't **** off. I liked him at first but my god the man is as stupid as he is ugly. David Cameron needs to take over, and now. We need to stop this downward spiral now, or we may not recover our position in the world. Britain has always been a leading global power. There's not much signs of a full on war, I think this conflict could die down for a while. Russia is also another problem, but it would help if the west would listen to Russia. The press here is so biased against Russia
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Britain are biased against any country, or any power that could harm them. Our polictical party are just the worst team of politicians in the World. They don't want to try and sort things out, they're just like "send out the troops". Look at all the British soldiers that have died since 2003. Hundreds upon thousands, and once did Tony Blair interveen (sorry if that's the wrong spelling) and say right let's just pull out the troops, no. He just kept them out there. All those rallies of grieving families in Britiain out on the street trying to stop the war, and he just ignored them. Then he quits because he can't take the heat, and then lets Gordon Brown step in instead of holding an election. So we're stuck with our very own dim-witted ugly **** of Prime Minister. All Gordon wanted to do was take over Tony's position because he was jealous, and now he doesn't no what the **** he's got himself into. He needs to start making the right decisions, because if he doesn't we've got a World War III on our hands, and this country will go down the tubes.
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by KingofBrits
Britain are biased against any country, or any power that could harm them. Our polictical party are just the worst team of politicians in the World. They don't want to try and sort things out, they're just like "send out the troops". Look at all the British soldiers that have died since 2003. Hundreds upon thousands, and once did Tony Blair interveen (sorry if that's the wrong spelling) and say right let's just pull out the troops, no. He just kept them out there. All those rallies of grieving families in Britiain out on the street trying to stop the war, and he just ignored them. Then he quits because he can't take the heat, and then lets Gordon Brown step in instead of holding an election. So we're stuck with our very own dim-witted ugly **** of Prime Minister. All Gordon wanted to do was take over Tony's position because he was jealous, and now he doesn't no what the **** he's got himself into. He needs to start making the right decisions, because if he doesn't we've got a World War III on our hands, and this country will go down the tubes.
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I agree. I don't like how Tony Blair just left when he knew things were getting bad, he must have an idea of what was to come (I really don't get how more people didn't see this coming. ****ing retards. Woolworths closing... and the iconic british high street could be ruined). Gorson has wanted this job for years, and now when he finally has it suddenly things don't seem quiet so rosey. He really annoys me, he is an awful speaker. When he does press he does a disturbing things with his mouth as though he is gasping for air... I hope we don't have anoth WW, this time things will be so much worse. Casualties could be in the billions
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by !!!
This conflict always reminds me of 1846-48, when James Polk decided to steal half of our territory in an uneven war. The only difference is that our government didn't try to recover what belonged to us. Sadly, I think this may be the only way to end this atrocity.
Anyway, when I did my Geopolitics test, I was asked about this conflict and the U.K. had a lot to do with this.
So, basically the British lied to the Arabs. That's why they weren't able to create a proper state in their lands. Why didn't you tell the entire story, NickLacheyFan?
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I didn't remember the whole story, I learned about it a few years ago and it doesn't matter, cuz' the biritish lied to the arabs, not us, they ended up supporting us, and we got our country.
Look, what Mazen clearly doesn't understand is, our country is already here, doesn't matter how we got it.
I'll tell you why it doesn't matter, it's simple.
I, never lived in 1948' and even if I do or do not agree with how the country was created, I live here and that's a fact.
Why do I need to suffer from missiles and god knows why, if the only thing I did was to get borned here, and even that I didn't choose to do, huh?
You can't expect 6m people to just disappear from this land [unless someone is planing to do another holocaust], we live here, we build most of this country and it won't just go away, so the only thing they can do is sit their asses down and talk to us about a solution, but that's what they never tried to do and that's why they kept getting screwed up, they kept missing opportunitys, and not just with us.
The only way they acted was with force, even with the british.
I don't know on what world Mazen lives but it doesn't matter which country it is and what are the circumstance, when a country is being attacked by anyone, it will defend herself.
What does he expect us to do?Sit down while they are attacking?
Yes, we cuase more damage, but that's cuz' we got an army, and we actually care about our people and they go down to the bomb shelters.
If this was so easy, someone would have solved it by now, but it's not.
But we won't go away from our country, apart from the simple reason it's ours, no matter how we got it, we don't have anywhere to go, we didn't kick them out but I'm sure that if they will get this land we would probably get kicked out...Esp' cuz' terror organiztion is ruling them.
Mazen might try to portray them as saints but anyone who is using force and killing people just to promote himself is a terrorist, so don't jump on say we do the same, cuz' we defand ourselfs.
Our attacks purpose is to end the 8 years long missile firing.
8 years we tried to work it out, 8 years we tried not to respond and 8 years that have been too much, this is something we have to do, even if some of the way isn't right, we can't sit back and not do nothing anymore.
Btw, not so long ago they were even fighting with themselfs, two extrem groups, I think the Hamas was one of them were shooting in the street of Gaza, they killed each other and innocent people.
So much for your saints Mazen.
I can understadn some of the palestinians, the noon terrorists at least, but all of those terrorist are not helping them at all.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Celestial
Are you being serious? Every jewish person I have known/met has been very arrogant, obnoxious and in your face. For the most part I don't like them (I love Natalie Portman though ).
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I'm sorry but that's a textbook example of racist stereotyping. It's like saying all black people are obnoxious. I'm Jewish but I'm pretty quiet--I have a lot of friends but I don't draw attention to myself.
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I'm sorry but that's a textbook example of racist stereotyping. It's like saying all black people are obnoxious. I'm Jewish but I'm pretty quiet--I have a lot of friends but I don't draw attention to myself.
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I know it was very racist, but I keep an open mind. I'm still young so I guess my own experiences will change. I try not to generalize people, nevertheless I think Israel is wrong in what they are doing
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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Originally posted by Hard Candy
12th day of Israel's attacks on Gaza UPDATE:
TOTAL: 700 - DIED
3075 - INJURED
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14th day of Israel's attacks on Gaza UPDATE:
TOTAL: 776 - DIED
3150 - INJURED
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224 - Children
92 - Women
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Member Since: 6/30/2007
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poor childrens
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Celestial
I know it was very racist, but I keep an open mind. I'm still young so I guess my own experiences will change. I try not to generalize people, nevertheless I think Israel is wrong in what they are doing
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I don't support Israel either. I don't really support either side, but if I had to say one was more justified it would be Palestine.
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Member Since: 5/11/2007
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This needs to end seriously, that is way too many casualties
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Member Since: 10/14/2008
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To be honest, it makes me feel shameless to watch the numbers double. We can't do anything, we can only pray for them. For everyone who's reading this, gay or straight, tall or short, Jew or Muslim, stupid or smart, we all should pray for these little innocent kids. WHICHEVER way you pray just pray with me for a minute, please.
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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Originally posted by Hard Candy
14th day of Israel's attacks on Gaza UPDATE:
TOTAL: 776 - DIED
224 - Children
92 - Women
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3150 - INJURED
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16th day of Israel's attacks on Gaza UPDATE:
TOTAL: 879 - DIED
275 - Children
100+ - Women
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3695 - INJURED
Israel 'using white phosphorus'
White phosphorus, fired in a shell, can be used to hide troop movements or illuminate targets [AFP]
Human Rights Watch has called on Israel to stop using white phosphorus which it says has been used in military operations in the densely populated Gaza Strip.
The US-based group said that its researchers observed the use of the chemical, which can burn away human flesh to the bone, over Gaza City and Jabaliya on Friday and Saturday.
"We went by Israeli artillery units that had white phosphorus rounds with the fuses in them," Marc Garlasco, a senior military analyst at Human Rights Watch, told Al Jazeera.
"Clearly it is [white phosphorus], we can tell by the explosions and the tendrils that go down [and] the fires that were burning," he said.
"Today there were massive attacks in Jabaliya when we were there. We saw that there were numerous fires once the white phosphorus had gone in."
'Obscurant'
International law permits the use of white phosphorus as an "obscurant" to cover troop movements and prevent enemies from using certain guided weapons, but its use is controversial as it can injure people through painful chemical burns.
"Even if they are using it as an obscurant, they are using it in a very densely populated area," Garlasco said.
"The problem is it covers such a wide area that when the white phosphorus wafers come down, over 100 in each artillery shell, they burn everything they touch and they don't stop burning until they are done.
"You are talking about skin damage, potentially homes going on fire, damage to infrastructure."
Human Rights Watch said that it believed the use of the chemical in Gaza violated the requirement under international humanitarian law to take all feasible precautions to avoid civilian injury and loss of life.
The Israeli military has previously denied using white phosphorus during the 15-day offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has said that any munitions that it does use comply with international law.
Israel used white phophorus during its 34-day war against Lebanon's Hezbollah movement in 2006, while the United States used it during the controversial siege of the Iraqi city of Fallujah in 2004.
Graphic images!!!
MODERATION: Whoa, [warning] tag please!
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Omg, what the hell is this powder?
It sounds awful!
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Member Since: 10/8/2007
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But that much? I mean come on, you would kill innocent people for your own dream?
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See in the second picture, is that child's head cut off, or is the rest of the body in the ground.
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Member Since: 10/8/2007
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Originally posted by KingofBrits
See in the second picture, is that child's head cut off, or is the rest of the body in the ground.
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Thats what I was thinking!
But, i think its cut off
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by KingofBrits
See in the second picture, is that child's head cut off, or is the rest of the body in the ground.
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I was thinking the same but you can see a bit of his clothes barried just under his head, I think / hope.
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NickLacheyFan, are you going to keep the head attached or not when you join the Israeli army?
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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Those pictures are so heartbreaking. Damn those Israeli demons and their defenders. You just can't 'cause this much destruction without paying for it.
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