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Tournament: ATRL's Drag Race - A New Superstar! (Pg. 393)
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Yes, but I'm pretty sure he didn't read the challenge considering our songs are specifically meant to highlight HIV, not "nearly every other STI".
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Originally posted by jpow
The "hurts when I pee" line is not just about gonorrhea, but nearly every STI and it's definitely possible to be infected by both HIV and another one at a same time.
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I find it interesting that a few users have posted mostly negative feedback to the songs, and that all of these users come from Team 1.
When you so transparently spend time pointing out your perceived flaws (esp. ones as weak as "you did too much"), it comes across like you're trying to influence the judges and point these things out for them. Everyone likes being funny and shady at times, but immediately talking down someone's entry isn't cute. Team 2 may have had a serious song and maybe that's not what you think is right for the challenge, but at least they wrote something unexpected and took a risk (and wrote a #Beautiful song).
Of course everyone's entitled to play the game however they want, but I just don't see the benefit of trying to make your entry look good by hating your neighbors.
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Scarlett's points are fair and she's doing it tastefully
I can't complain
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Originally posted by Moonchild
Yes, but I'm pretty sure he didn't read the challenge considering our songs are specifically meant to highlight HIV, not "nearly every other STI".
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The challenge, if I recall, said to make a song advertising safe sex, due to the rise of HIV. There are more STDs out there than HIV. It didn't say make an "anti-HIV" song. It said make a safe sex song
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
I find it interesting that a few users have posted mostly negative feedback to the songs, and that all of these users come from Team 1.
When you so transparently spend time pointing out your perceived flaws (esp. ones as weak as "you did too much"), it comes across like you're trying to influence the judges and point these things out for them. Everyone likes being funny and shady at times, but immediately talking down someone's entry isn't cute. Team 2 may have had a serious song and maybe that's not what you think is right for the challenge, but at least they wrote something unexpected and took a risk (and wrote a #Beautiful song).
Of course everyone's entitled to play the game however they want, but I just don't see the benefit of trying to make your entry look good by hating your neighbors.
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constructive criticism is healthy. seems like you didn't get enough of it before you pursued a singing career.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
I find it interesting that a few users have posted mostly negative feedback to the songs, and that all of these users come from Team 1.
When you so transparently spend time pointing out your perceived flaws (esp. ones as weak as "you did too much"), it comes across like you're trying to influence the judges and point these things out for them. Everyone likes being funny and shady at times, but immediately talking down someone's entry isn't cute. Team 2 may have had a serious song and maybe that's not what you think is right for the challenge, but at least they wrote something unexpected and took a risk (and wrote a #Beautiful song).
Of course everyone's entitled to play the game however they want, but I just don't see the benefit of trying to make your entry look good by hating your neighbors.
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There are only a few members critiquing others, including members from every team and not just team 1.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
I find it interesting that a few users have posted mostly negative feedback to the songs, and that all of these users come from Team 1.
When you so transparently spend time pointing out your perceived flaws (esp. ones as weak as "you did too much"), it comes across like you're trying to influence the judges and point these things out for them. Everyone likes being funny and shady at times, but immediately talking down someone's entry isn't cute. Team 2 may have had a serious song and maybe that's not what you think is right for the challenge, but at least they wrote something unexpected and took a risk (and wrote a #Beautiful song).
Of course everyone's entitled to play the game however they want, but I just don't see the benefit of trying to make your entry look good by hating your neighbors.
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I was stating an opinion. Curtly, yes, but not with the intention of influencing anyone to do anything other than for them to hear my opinion that I believe the creation of an actual song & coverart for the written lyrics (even though I do it myself frequently for Create a Label) was unnecessary and distracts attention from the focus of the challenge, which is the lyrics.
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Moonchild, are you posting feedback for team 3? 
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Originally posted by jax.
constructive criticism is healthy. seems like you didn't get enough of it before you pursued a singing career. |
Yes, very "constructive" for the next time we all write songs promoting safe sex for an online game 
And no jpow, it was just y'all, but it's OK. Your song was actually pretty funny most of the time so you didn't need to be so salty, but whatever.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Moonchild, are you posting feedback for team 3?
Yes, very "constructive" for the next time we all write songs promoting safe sex for an online game
And no jpow, it was just y'all, but it's OK. Your song was actually pretty funny most of the time so you didn't need to be so salty, but whatever. |
Yes, I am. I will start working on it during maintenance, since Team 1's feedback took me about 45 minutes.
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Drag Ohana means drag family. And drag family means no one gets left behind.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Moonchild, are you posting feedback for team 3?
Yes, very "constructive" for the next time we all write songs promoting safe sex for an online game
And no jpow, it was just y'all, but it's OK. Your song was actually pretty funny most of the time so you didn't need to be so salty, but whatever. |
you act like we weren't advised to give feedback/criticism.  get out of here
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Originally posted by Dancehall
Drag Ohana means drag family. And drag family means no one gets left behind.
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Originally posted by Moonchild
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
And no jpow, it was just y'all, but it's OK. Your song was actually pretty funny most of the time so you didn't need to be so salty, but whatever.
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You and Moonchild both were giving feedback as well. Which is fine, the entries were posted for us to talk about. I agree with XOXO that your song was great, but I think the other things like the lyric video and album cover could have been made to cover up potential weaknesses in the lyrics.
This is supposed to be fun so I apologize for any off track saltiness that may have occurred on my part. 
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if team 1 wins Im leaving this competition
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
I find it interesting that a few users have posted mostly negative feedback to the songs, and that all of these users come from Team 1.
When you so transparently spend time pointing out your perceived flaws (esp. ones as weak as "you did too much"), it comes across like you're trying to influence the judges and point these things out for them. Everyone likes being funny and shady at times, but immediately talking down someone's entry isn't cute. Team 2 may have had a serious song and maybe that's not what you think is right for the challenge, but at least they wrote something unexpected and took a risk (and wrote a #Beautiful song).
Of course everyone's entitled to play the game however they want, but I just don't see the benefit of trying to make your entry look good by hating your neighbors.
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Carrie keeping it classy. 
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I loved Team 2's song, that would be my pick. Team 3 did great too.
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Wait a damn second...
HOW are you gonna come for our song like this? We stand OUT because HIV is a serious matter and we nailed it because we didn't get all jokey on a serious matter.
If you recall, Season 1 of Drag Race Ongina won & her PSA was NOT a hokey joke.
HIV is NOT a joke whether you're a drag queen, straight, gay etc. I realized this when I made my entry & sided with Moonchild (& DevonRoars) on taking a more serious route to make us stand out.
We did advocate safe sex in our song & did it subtly.
Don't hate our future Hot 100 #1 
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Team 3, for starters, I appreciate that you went the extra mile. I don't think your entry is too much, though I agree with others in that the single cover and finished song do draw attention from your lyrics. By the way, I screamed (in a good way) at the background vocals (Carrie Messiah?) in the final chorus of the video, a Melody in "Buttons" tea. 
I like your lyrics; the tone reminds me a lot of Garfunkel and Oates for some reason. Your ideas are creative and address the challenge well. The few negatives have to do with the incorporation of your concepts and how the song flows while reading (and listening).
First, let's talk about the pre-choruses, which suffer the most from this. I understand how difficult an AAAA rhyme scheme is to pull off, but it just doesn't work in either pre-chorus. The rhythms in both are awkward and slow down the momentum going into the chorus. The first part of the chorus suffers the same to a degree, but the rhythm comes more naturally there.
I really like the ideas of incorporating "Carrie Messiah" and a Shangela quote in your song, but they feel forced when read aloud and sung.
The first stanza of the first verse also feels somewhat out-of-place with an irregular AABC rhyme scheme, but I'm just nitpicking at this point.
Other than those small complaints, there's not much for me to criticize. There is an "after school special" feel to the song as I joked earlier, but I don't think that's a bad thing. The humor is well-placed and I appreciate how you advocated for PrEP and regular clinic visits. I particularly enjoyed the song title, "anal virginity" line and second verse. Your song is crafted and polished well; I won't be surprised if you win.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
jlkfmsld I was only asked to do a rap & no tea no shade but that's not happening hun
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screaming, the racism
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