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Celeb News: ARTPOP Official Reviews: 61/100
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I can already see TONS of ship jumper lol 
Anyways I became a hardcore gaga stan in 2011 because imo btw was gaga best freaking album. It was a work of ART and i did not understand why people hated the MUSIC, i understood why they hated the era as in looks but the music was SOO good and the performances were amazing, But i do have to say ARTPOP is gaga worst album and to me the album seems dead i think it had to do with the hardcare EDM that is on the album and less art that on it as well. And tbh she should have named it different, something futuristic because the promo pics were gorgeous and futuristic. I'm not saying the album is bad because i like almost every song, but gaga can do SOO much better. She Just need to go and stay out of the spotlight get married maby have a kid and get Inspired again like when she was younger. But that just me. And this might be one of gaga stumbling blocks she will have to face as an artist is getting inspired again because you know she is a mega pop star and she is surrounded by yes men. And i hope that the Criticism that will come from the era will push her to improve and become better as an artist .I'm not happy with the score but i know she will take score to heart and PROVE THE WRONG with her next album 
LOL at the hater now loving BTW to drag ARTPOP when, they were draging btw in SYG 
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Originally posted by VIRUS
As a Gaga stan since 2009, and one of the few who didn't jump ship during the BTW era, I can honestly say with no bias that this is Gaga's worst album. The biggest problem for me is that she hyped this up so much, going on and on about blending ART and POP blah blah blah, but if the music doesn't add up, all that talk doesn't mean anything. There's nothing ground breaking or experimental on the album. Hell, even "Born This Way" had more experimental tracks than this album, even if they didn't always work. (Bloody Mary, HML, Government Hooker, etc.) It's just very formulaic. The 62/100 score is just right in my opinion. For the next album, I hope Gaga will just keep her mouth shut and let the music speak for itself.
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With all due respect, you can't say anything without bias. Your opinion is clearly influenced by the expectations that you built up. You shouldn't be so concerned about "objectivity", you're entitled to your own opinion and bias, and you're making sense.
This being said, I completely disagree. The music on Born This Way was a lot safer. Let's just take the lead single: to GaGa's admission, she used a chord progression that's been used for 20 years. That speaks to the fact that she wanted the music to be consensual, and part of me thinks it's because the lyrics weren't going to be. RedOne and Fernando Garibay were still a big part of that project, and that's because they had a sound that was known to fit GaGa like a glove and please her audience.
She didn't go down that road on Artpop. The only track that's produced by RedOne on Artpop has absolutely nothing to do with their usual winning formula. GaGa definitely plays with genres, vocals, eras and influences more diversely than ever; I dare you to listen any string of 5 songs and tell me that they're from the same mold. Really, pay attention to how diversely her voice is used on Venus, GUY, Sexxx Dreams, Artpop, Donatella, Fashion! and Dope, within each songs and from one song to another.
If there's a problem with Artpop, it's the fact that none of the risks she took seem to draw a consensus on their quality. Venus might be the most classic GaGa track on the album in terms of vocals, mood and music, maybe with Aura, and ironically, its reception was less than impressive (even freaking popjustice didn't stand by it), because its construction was just too bizarre. That's a really good case of a risk that doesn't pay off. Another example would be Jewels & Drugs, that a lot of fans rejected as soon as it was performed.
I'll always stand by Artpop because a lot of the criticism it received seemed kind of unfair to me. A lot of it is GaGa's fault for making over-the-top statements in a world where critics only seem to be capable of perceiving second-degree when they write it... But to be fair, she's in a spot where, because she's already very polarising to begin with, the negativity she gets will be very extreme no matter what, and she can't afford to disappoint people who aren't repulsed by her, especially since the negativity fuels their expectations even more; on top of making good music, she is expected to prove the critics wrong. She has to constantly out-do the outstanding job she's already done, but she can't repeat herself, because the novelty factor is gone, and she also has to be careful when she explores new things, because she has to meet specific expectations.
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Originally posted by Ben Dover
I can already see TONS of ship jumper lol
Anyways I became a hardcore gaga stan in 2011 because imo btw was gaga best freaking album. It was a work of ART and i did not understand why people hated the MUSIC, i understood why they hated the era as in looks but the music was SOO good and the performances were amazing, But i do have to say ARTPOP is gaga worst album and to me the album seems dead i think it had to do with the hardcare EDM that is on the album and less art that on it as well. And tbh she should have named it different, something futuristic because the promo pics were gorgeous and futuristic. I'm not saying the album is bad because i like almost every song, but gaga can do SOO much better. She Just need to go and stay out of the spotlight get married maby have a kid and get Inspired again like when she was younger. But that just me. And this might be one of gaga stumbling blocks she will have to face as an artist is getting inspired again because you know she is a mega pop star and she is surrounded by yes men. And i hope that the Criticism that will come from the era will push her to improve and become better as an artist .I'm not happy with the score but i know she will take score to heart and PROVE THE WRONG with her next album
LOL at the hater now loving BTW to drag ARTPOP when, they were draging btw in SYG |
Believe me BTW is trash. Good lord but Artpop has at least more then three listenable songs
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When BTW came out everyone was saying "this doesn't have a Paparazzi or a Telephone". Now everyone is like "this doesn't have a Bloody Mary or a The Edge Of Glory"
For album #4 they will be saying "this doesn't have a Donatella, a Gypsy or a G.U.Y."
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Yeah recency bias works both ways. Everything on TFM was a lot more solid than on TF, so it was the ****, and there was no way around it.
BTW failed to convince half the TFM fans that it was better, so these people gave it the cold shoulder, while the other half still stood by it, but wasn't necessarily as vocal about it...
And here we are now: Artpop has to compete with TFM and BTW, and suddenly people are coming out of their cave to say that BTW was a great album because Artpop doesn't meet their expectations, while those who dropped her with BTW either dig GaGa deeper or jump on the "BTW was actually miles better" bandwagon. A mess.
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saw it coming
the album is a mess
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Still her best album in my opinion.
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Whoa.
I think this is her best album too.
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Well this is interesting i was expecting better numbers.
I gave it 64 tho. I know the tea 
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Then again, many of these critics stan for good melodies, production, lyrics, high notes and little to no auto tune.
Gaga wasn't doing it with the lyrics and high notes for Artpop, and also used some auto tune here and there.
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I hope it settles around 60-65, that'd be a deserved score imo 
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LA Times: ARTPOP Review
The offer comes early and, of course, in the form of a provocation.
“Do you want to see me naked, lover?” Lady Gaga asks in “Aura,” the first song on her new album, “Artpop.” “Do you want to see the girl who lives behind the aura?”
For sure!
Wait, no -- hold on. Do we want that?
More than any of her A-list peers, Lady Gaga makes a spectator sport of the entire pop-star experience, from her music to her pronouncements on social issues to her determination to wear the wackiest outfit possible every time she steps in front of the paparazzi.
No one plays the mass media as cleverly as she has since she emerged in 2008 with “The Fame,” the smash-hit debut that foretold its own success. And over the last five years, she’s used it to construct a persona that purposely reflects our complicated, contradictory relationship with celebrity.
But now here she comes on her third full-length -- several months after a hip injury forced her off the road and out of the tabloid panopticon she’s happily called home -- promising to drop the veil (or the burqa, as she later put it somewhat troublingly in “Aura”).
“I just love the music, not the bling,” she tells us in “Artpop’s” title track, and if you can remember the last time that sentiment paid off on a pop record, you’ve got a longer memory than I do.
But don’t underestimate Lady Gaga: Though “Gypsy” might do sincere Bruce Springsteen-style rock more effectively than the Boss himself has lately, it turns out that authenticity is just another pose.
“My artpop could mean anything,” she sings at one point, no more willing than ever to align herself with a single viewpoint. It’s a mind-set borne out by the rest of the album’s shifts in tone and perspective -- which doesn’t mean she’s equally convincing in all her guises.
In the lengthy promotional run-up to “Artpop,” Lady Gaga described her plans for a “reverse Warholian expedition” in which she and collaborators such as performance artist Marina Abramovic and Jeff Koons (who designed the album’s cover) would “bring art culture into pop.”
Yet as presented in the title track and “Applause,” that might be the least exciting idea she has here, not to mention the most familiar at a moment when the barrier between art and pop has never been more permeable.
Wasn’t that Jay Z inviting Abramovic to appear in a music video just this summer?
There are other duds, including the clunky arena-rock goof “Manicure” and “Donatella,” an excruciatingly lame homage to her friend Donatella Versace. (“Fashion!,” with a plush soul-funk groove, more effectively communicates her belief in the transformational potential of clothes.)
And in “Jewels N’ Drugs,” a toothless attempt at the clattering hip-hop variant known as trap, she comes off like a tourist; it makes Katy Perry’s recent trap experiment, “Dark Horse,” sound positively thrilling.
But Lady Gaga approaches other fresh modes with more spirit, particularly in a handful of songs that pull deeply from R&B: the throbbing “G.U.Y.” (short for “girl under you”); “Do What U Want,” a sleek duet with R. Kelly; and “Sexxx Dreams,” which proposes a tryst with a lover whose boyfriend is away for the weekend.
Sex is hardly a new topic for Lady Gaga, who memorably sang about a disco stick in “LoveGame.” Yet bodies have often seemed to serve a kind of allegorical function in her songs; they’ve represented freedom or passion or adventure.
Here the music is appealingly carnal, even when Lady Gaga works a metaphor outright, as in “Do What U Want,” which doubles as a rejoinder to her critics. “Do what you want with my body,” she sings, but “you can’t stop my voice ’cause you don’t own my life.”
She takes an opposite tack in “Swine,” finding a kind of horror-movie disgust in desire. “I know you want me,” she snarls, channeling Courtney Love. “You’re just a pig inside a human body.” It’s a sharp counterpoint to the steamy sex talk, as is “Dope,” a stripped-down piano ballad near the end of “Artpop” in which she uses her most unvarnished singing to deliver pained lyrics about “hurting low from living high for so long.”
Is that the soul-baring she threatens at the beginning of the record? In a way, sure; “I need you more than dope” feels pretty honest. But as the song builds toward a Broadway-sized climax, her voice cracking in practiced spontaneity, you can hear Lady Gaga mainlining her real drug of choice: our attention.
Rating: 2.5/4
Metacritic: 63/100
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...#axzz2kNQJ6KEX
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They've added in the Pretty Much Amazing and Boston Globe scores, with BG being counted as a 70.
It'll go back down once they add in the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, Drowned In Sound, and Now Toronto reviews
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Not ARTPOP being her lowest scoring album
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
LA Times: ARTPOP Review
The offer comes early and, of course, in the form of a provocation.
“Do you want to see me naked, lover?” Lady Gaga asks in “Aura,” the first song on her new album, “Artpop.” “Do you want to see the girl who lives behind the aura?”
For sure!
Wait, no -- hold on. Do we want that?
More than any of her A-list peers, Lady Gaga makes a spectator sport of the entire pop-star experience, from her music to her pronouncements on social issues to her determination to wear the wackiest outfit possible every time she steps in front of the paparazzi.
No one plays the mass media as cleverly as she has since she emerged in 2008 with “The Fame,” the smash-hit debut that foretold its own success. And over the last five years, she’s used it to construct a persona that purposely reflects our complicated, contradictory relationship with celebrity.
But now here she comes on her third full-length -- several months after a hip injury forced her off the road and out of the tabloid panopticon she’s happily called home -- promising to drop the veil (or the burqa, as she later put it somewhat troublingly in “Aura”).
“I just love the music, not the bling,” she tells us in “Artpop’s” title track, and if you can remember the last time that sentiment paid off on a pop record, you’ve got a longer memory than I do.
But don’t underestimate Lady Gaga: Though “Gypsy” might do sincere Bruce Springsteen-style rock more effectively than the Boss himself has lately, it turns out that authenticity is just another pose.
“My artpop could mean anything,” she sings at one point, no more willing than ever to align herself with a single viewpoint. It’s a mind-set borne out by the rest of the album’s shifts in tone and perspective -- which doesn’t mean she’s equally convincing in all her guises.
In the lengthy promotional run-up to “Artpop,” Lady Gaga described her plans for a “reverse Warholian expedition” in which she and collaborators such as performance artist Marina Abramovic and Jeff Koons (who designed the album’s cover) would “bring art culture into pop.”
Yet as presented in the title track and “Applause,” that might be the least exciting idea she has here, not to mention the most familiar at a moment when the barrier between art and pop has never been more permeable.
Wasn’t that Jay Z inviting Abramovic to appear in a music video just this summer?
There are other duds, including the clunky arena-rock goof “Manicure” and “Donatella,” an excruciatingly lame homage to her friend Donatella Versace. (“Fashion!,” with a plush soul-funk groove, more effectively communicates her belief in the transformational potential of clothes.)
And in “Jewels N’ Drugs,” a toothless attempt at the clattering hip-hop variant known as trap, she comes off like a tourist; it makes Katy Perry’s recent trap experiment, “Dark Horse,” sound positively thrilling.
But Lady Gaga approaches other fresh modes with more spirit, particularly in a handful of songs that pull deeply from R&B: the throbbing “G.U.Y.” (short for “girl under you”); “Do What U Want,” a sleek duet with R. Kelly; and “Sexxx Dreams,” which proposes a tryst with a lover whose boyfriend is away for the weekend.
Sex is hardly a new topic for Lady Gaga, who memorably sang about a disco stick in “LoveGame.” Yet bodies have often seemed to serve a kind of allegorical function in her songs; they’ve represented freedom or passion or adventure.
Here the music is appealingly carnal, even when Lady Gaga works a metaphor outright, as in “Do What U Want,” which doubles as a rejoinder to her critics. “Do what you want with my body,” she sings, but “you can’t stop my voice ’cause you don’t own my life.”
She takes an opposite tack in “Swine,” finding a kind of horror-movie disgust in desire. “I know you want me,” she snarls, channeling Courtney Love. “You’re just a pig inside a human body.” It’s a sharp counterpoint to the steamy sex talk, as is “Dope,” a stripped-down piano ballad near the end of “Artpop” in which she uses her most unvarnished singing to deliver pained lyrics about “hurting low from living high for so long.”
Is that the soul-baring she threatens at the beginning of the record? In a way, sure; “I need you more than dope” feels pretty honest. But as the song builds toward a Broadway-sized climax, her voice cracking in practiced spontaneity, you can hear Lady Gaga mainlining her real drug of choice: our attention.
Rating: 2.5/4
Metacritic: 63/100
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...#axzz2kNQJ6KEX
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Well, they gave BTW a 50, so at least this time it's higher 
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Thank you whoever it was who brought it above PRISM. How embarrassing to have the same score as a Katy Perry album 
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NY Times review needs to be added still too, that one was around a 60
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It's at 64 now.
Rise ARTPOP rise, this is the beginning.
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#justiceforbionic
#justiceforromanreloaded
#justicefortalkthattalk
#justiceforfemmefatale
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