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Originally posted by jxck
Reading through this thread I can see that people are failing to see the greater ramifications of eating animal products - I did too for a looooooong time. Just want to pop some facts here that surprised me and turned me to veganism, remember it's a bigger problem than simply choosing to eat animal products or not - there's far more behind it than caring for animals and not wanting them to die!
- Farm animals used to be raised on grassland where they would turn food humans couldn't eat (grass) into something we ~could~ (without getting too much into the debate of toxic ramifications of it) consume and turn into energy. Now, a vast majority of farm animals are raised entirely indoors - and therefore have no access to grass or forage - so their feed must be transported (sometimes across several continents) to them, which has huge negative impacts on the environment. The old model of getting an animal we could kill and eat to eat something we couldn't for our benefit doesn't work anymore as farming has been greatly industrialised. In fact, if we took what we now give to farm animals (things like soya which we can consume ourselves) and kept it for ourselves, we could feed such directly to billions of starving people over the world. It no longer makes sense to have an animal eat what we can eat (expending energy, water and land) when we can simply get it all from plant source. More calories go into the farm animal than come out in the form of meat, dairy and eggs.
- The way we're farming at the moment is unsustainable - it takes 1,000 gallons of water to hydrate the cows that produce 1 gallon of milk, and five tonnes of small fish to feed one tonne of farmed fish so that it's plump to the consumer's taste. Why not blend those 1,000 gallons of water with some nuts or seeds to produce plant-based milks that provide more nutritional benefits than the cows milk? It's quite eye opening.
- Fishmeal is one of the filthiest secrets of the factory-farming industry, an environmental catastrophe that involves sucking millions of tonnes of small fish out of the sea and crushing them into fish oil to be transported around the world and used as dry feed for fish, pigs and chickens. The process deprives millions of larger wild fish, birds and marine mammals of their natural prey, drastically depleting stocks of important species. It also pumps vile fatty waste, creating 'dead zones'; pollutes the atmosphere around processing plants, causing widespread human health problems, and diverts what could be a highly valuable source of nutrition for people in impoverished communities near the plant to industrially farmed animals instead. Production of the meal at a plant in Chimbote was studied over a period of time and found to have given locals severe respitory infections, asthma, acute diarrhoea, malnutrition, parasitic diseases and the like.
- Animals are now heavily treated and injected with chemicals - some of which were designed by German scientists in the Second World War as chemical weapons and were since bought out by US companies for agricultural use - astoundingly, 80% of antibiotics in America are used in farms. Use of such heavy chemicals doesn't give any animals a cure for any illness they are experience, and instead simply alleviates pain, giving birth to lethal diseases like Swine Flu that are created by animals being in close quarters. In fact, two thirds of bacteria, viruses or other micro-organisms that cause disease in humans are zoonotic - meaning they originate from animals. So eating meat means more than just killing animals, it actually kills humans in the process - and has done so many times before.
- People may read of supposed health benefits of meat and the like, but the truth is these benefits are no longer present as factory farming has stripped away almost all of the nutritional benefits of meat on offer at supermarkets. A recent study suggested that you'd have to eat four entire factory farmed chickens from head to toe in order to get the same benefits you would from one living in the wild half a century ago.
I could go on all day but I should probably wrap it up. I hope people feel comfortable reading this, not attacked and know that they can message me any time with questions! Most of my statistics have come from a book I just finished called Farmageddon: The True Cost of Cheap Meat - a great read! Much love
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the essay nnnnnnn
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I almost thought this was a joke tbh
I understand the implications of eating meat and the carbon footprint and that we enjoy the taste of meat/fat because our tastebuds haven't yet evolved from the early ages when we needed to eat fat to survive and all that **** but I'm still too young, lazy, and hungry to change. Maybe when I'm independent in five years But probably not.
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Originally posted by jxck
Reading through this thread I can see that people are failing to see the greater ramifications of eating animal products - I did too for a looooooong time. Just want to pop some facts here that surprised me and turned me to veganism, remember it's a bigger problem than simply choosing to eat animal products or not - there's far more behind it than caring for animals and not wanting them to die!
- Farm animals used to be raised on grassland where they would turn food humans couldn't eat (grass) into something we ~could~ (without getting too much into the debate of toxic ramifications of it) consume and turn into energy. Now, a vast majority of farm animals are raised entirely indoors - and therefore have no access to grass or forage - so their feed must be transported (sometimes across several continents) to them, which has huge negative impacts on the environment. The old model of getting an animal we could kill and eat to eat something we couldn't for our benefit doesn't work anymore as farming has been greatly industrialised. In fact, if we took what we now give to farm animals (things like soya which we can consume ourselves) and kept it for ourselves, we could feed such directly to billions of starving people over the world. It no longer makes sense to have an animal eat what we can eat (expending energy, water and land) when we can simply get it all from plant source. More calories go into the farm animal than come out in the form of meat, dairy and eggs.
- The way we're farming at the moment is unsustainable - it takes 1,000 gallons of water to hydrate the cows that produce 1 gallon of milk, and five tonnes of small fish to feed one tonne of farmed fish so that it's plump to the consumer's taste. Why not blend those 1,000 gallons of water with some nuts or seeds to produce plant-based milks that provide more nutritional benefits than the cows milk? It's quite eye opening.
- Fishmeal is one of the filthiest secrets of the factory-farming industry, an environmental catastrophe that involves sucking millions of tonnes of small fish out of the sea and crushing them into fish oil to be transported around the world and used as dry feed for fish, pigs and chickens. The process deprives millions of larger wild fish, birds and marine mammals of their natural prey, drastically depleting stocks of important species. It also pumps vile fatty waste, creating 'dead zones'; pollutes the atmosphere around processing plants, causing widespread human health problems, and diverts what could be a highly valuable source of nutrition for people in impoverished communities near the plant to industrially farmed animals instead. Production of the meal at a plant in Chimbote was studied over a period of time and found to have given locals severe respitory infections, asthma, acute diarrhoea, malnutrition, parasitic diseases and the like.
- Animals are now heavily treated and injected with chemicals - some of which were designed by German scientists in the Second World War as chemical weapons and were since bought out by US companies for agricultural use - astoundingly, 80% of antibiotics in America are used in farms. Use of such heavy chemicals doesn't give any animals a cure for any illness they are experience, and instead simply alleviates pain, giving birth to lethal diseases like Swine Flu that are created by animals being in close quarters. In fact, two thirds of bacteria, viruses or other micro-organisms that cause disease in humans are zoonotic - meaning they originate from animals. So eating meat means more than just killing animals, it actually kills humans in the process - and has done so many times before.
- People may read of supposed health benefits of meat and the like, but the truth is these benefits are no longer present as factory farming has stripped away almost all of the nutritional benefits of meat on offer at supermarkets. A recent study suggested that you'd have to eat four entire factory farmed chickens from head to toe in order to get the same benefits you would from one living in the wild half a century ago.
I could go on all day but I should probably wrap it up. I hope people feel comfortable reading this, not attacked and know that they can message me any time with questions! Most of my statistics have come from a book I just finished called Farmageddon: The True Cost of Cheap Meat - a great read! Much love
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This essay
Imma still eat my meat, Idc.
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Originally posted by Brian Kinney
I can't at people saying animals should have equal rights as humans By that logic, maybe we should allow them to vote too? Animals kill other animals for food. We are just smart enough to cook them before consuming them. Vegans who tell people to stop eating animals are no different than Christians pushing their religion on others!
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Not equal rights, but for some people an animal life is as much worth as a human life.
Having said that, I will never become a vegan. The carbon footprint argument doesn't really work for me because honestly, it's so much easier to reduce your carbon footprint in other ways.
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Originally posted by Patrick
Give up the meat
Give up the meat
Give up the meat
Stop the chomping, baby
Do it for Little Ruthie, guys! She's just like us — SHE LOVES CORN, WATERMELON AND HUGS!
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Ella ha impact!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
Give up the meat
Give up the meat
Give up the meat
Stop the chomping, baby
Do it for Little Ruthie, guys! She's just like us — SHE LOVES CORN, WATERMELON AND HUGS!
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