[taylor__fan]

Originally posted by alestevens

I made this a few months ago, compiling the venues from the Red Tour that she would be playing again this time around to estimate the overall gross. Now, i'll update it with the new boxscores for the dates that we have and the new venues added. Enjoy:

In bolded, 1989 Tour grosses. The rest are all from Red Tour

Ford Field, Detroit, MI, US $5,999,690
Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA, US $5,993,908
Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA, US $5,993,908
Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA, US $5,836,926
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA, US $4,732,031
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA, US $4,732,031
MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ, US $4,670,011
MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ, US $4,670,011
AT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX, US $4,589,266
Soldier Field, Chicago, IL, US $4,149,148
Soldier Field, Chicago, IL, US $4,149,148
BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, BC, CA $3,974,410
Rogers Centre, Toronto, ON, CA $3,931,655
Rogers Centre, Toronto, ON, CA $3,931,655
Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, AU $3,895,810
Mercedez-Benz Arena, Shangai, CHN $1,864,934
Mercedez-Benz Arena, Shangai, CHN $1,864,934
KFC YUM! Center, Louisville, KY, US $1,863,281
Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH, US $1,732,041
Fargodome, Fargo, ND, US $1,661,578
PNC Arena, Raleigh, NC, US $1,653,762
Time Warner Cable Arena, Charlotte, NC, US $1,627,798
CenturyLink Center, Bossier City, LA, US $1,458,197
Rupp Arena, Lexington, KY, US $1,342,699
Singapore Indoor Stadium, Kallang, SIN $1,262,040
Singapore Indoor Stadium, Kallang, SIN $1,262,040
Rexall Place, Edmonton, AB, CA $1,189,935
Rexall Place, Edmonton, AB, CA $1,189,935
Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA, US $1,183,615
Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA, US $1,183,615
Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA, US $1,183,615
Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA, US $1,183,615
Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA, US $1,183,615
Scottrade Center, St. Louis, MO, US $1,173,101
Scottrade Center, St. Louis, MO, US $1,173,101
Xcel Energy Center, Saint Paul, MN, US $1,160,468
Xcel Energy Center, Saint Paul, MN, US $1,160,468
Xcel Energy Center, Saint Paul, MN, US $1,160,468
Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, US $1,155,170
Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, US $1,155,170
EnergySolutions Arena, Salt Lake City, UT, US $1,139,360
CenturyLink Center, Omaha, NE, US $1,121,582
CenturyLink Center, Omaha, NE, US $1,121,582
Gila River Arena, Glendale, AZ, US $1,119,685
Gila River Arena, Glendale, AZ, US $1,119,685
Bridgestone Arena, Nashville, TN, US $1,112,181
Bridgestone Arena, Nashville, TN, US $1,112,181
Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, NC, US $1,109,253
Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN, US $1,082,042
Pepsi Center, Denver, CO, US $1,076,069
Pepsi Center, Denver, CO, US $1,076,069
Wells Fargo Arena, Des Moines, IA, US $1,075,576
Sprint Center, Kansas City, MO, US $1,046,586
Sprint Center, Kansas City, MO, US $1,046,586
American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL, US $1,010,175

= $121,647,415 in 55 dates / $2,211,771 per date in average

2,211,771 x 81 (amount of dates announced so far) = $179,153,451

So +200M is on lock with the gross increases that she is having with every show

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Damn girl DAMN

[Blues]

No boxscores for Taylor this week

[Ramos]

Originally posted by Blues

No boxscores for Taylor this week

I was hoping for the Japan dates.

[Phoenixx]

Money making machine get them coins!

[omrimayo]

I was on the Hyde Park show... 65K people of craziness. best 135 minutes of my love. She's the love of my life.

[Retro]

So I got bored and did some of my usual stats ****.

I'm predicting $270m final gross after 83 shows, with an attendance around 2.3 million.

[alestevens]

Originally posted by Retro

So I got bored and did some of my usual stats ****.

I'm predicting $270m final gross after 83 shows, with an attendance around 2.3 million.

I calculated 220M from 81 dates. Far away from your prediction, but we'll see

[Retro]

Originally posted by alestevens

I calculated 220M from 81 dates. Far away from your prediction, but we'll see

I did mine based on average ticket price so far. Assume the average price of her tickets remains at about $115 (the average from the 9 dates for which we have full data). If the average attendance-to-capacity ratio (using publicized capacities for each venue) holds up, she should sell approximately 2.35 million tickets. That's pretty rough since the publicized capacities of each venue are rather dubious and estimated to begin with, and the layout of each venue affects how many tickets she can put on sale, but it's still a decent estimate in my opinion, given the relative lack of data so far. This gives us a total gross of 2.35 million tickets x $115 = $270,250,000, which I just round to $270m since it's already rough enough. I could see her anywhere between $240m and $300m with the margin of error that all this is likely to yield, but I no longer see her reasonably grossing under $250m.

I did this all in Excel so the numbers in this paragraph are a bit different from my actual numbers, but I figure it's such an inexact process that I shouldn't try to be too precise.

[alestevens]

Originally posted by Retro

I did mine based on average ticket price so far. Assume the average price of her tickets remains at about $115 (the average from the 9 dates for which we have full data). If the average attendance-to-capacity ratio (using publicized capacities for each venue) holds up, she should sell approximately 2.35 million tickets. That's pretty rough since the publicized capacities of each venue are rather dubious and estimated to begin with, and the layout of each venue affects how many tickets she can put on sale, but it's still a decent estimate in my opinion, given the relative lack of data so far. This gives us a total gross of 2.35 million tickets x $115 = $270,250,000, which I just round to $270m since it's already rough enough. I could see her anywhere between $240m and $300m with the margin of error that all this is likely to yield, but I no longer see her reasonably grossing under $250m.

I did this all in Excel so the numbers in this paragraph are a bit different from my actual numbers, but I figure it's such an inexact process that I shouldn't try to be too precise.

Yeah, but there are several factors to take into consideration:

For instance, let's suppose each stadium grosses an average $5M (let's remember some of these stadiums are baseball stadiums and they hold 40-45K instead of 50-55K)

31 (counting Hyde Park) x $5M = $155

Let's suppose each arena other than those in Europe gross $1.5M:

44 x $1.5M = $66M

Let's suppose she keeps a $0.8M average in European arenas:

7 x $0.8M = $5.6M

Estimated total from 82 dates: $226.6M

Obviously, this is a conservative estimate, just because some of these venues are not as big as the ones that were already played. Either way, for 82 dates, this is still nothing short of impressive. There is a chance that it grosses more than my prediction, but with the current dates, there is no possible scenario where she grosses $270M in my opinion

[Ramos]

Nothing was reported this week on Billboard

[Icannot]

Originally posted by alestevens

Yeah, but there are several factors to take into consideration:

For instance, let's suppose each stadium grosses an average $5M (let's remember some of these stadiums are baseball stadiums and they hold 40-45K instead of 50-55K)

31 (counting Hyde Park) x $5M = $155

Let's suppose each arena other than those in Europe gross $1.5M:

44 x $1.5M = $66M

Let's suppose she keeps a $0.8M average in European arenas:

7 x $0.8M = $5.6M

Estimated total from 82 dates: $226.6M

Obviously, this is a conservative estimate, just because some of these venues are not as big as the ones that were already played. Either way, for 82 dates, this is still nothing short of impressive. There is a chance that it grosses more than my prediction, but with the current dates, there is no possible scenario where she grosses $270M in my opinion

Let's pray that you get clocked again.

[alestevens]

Update the OP. A third date was added in Shanghai

Nov 12th, 2015 - Mercedes-Benz Arena, Shanghai, China

[Ramos]

Originally posted by alestevens

Update the OP. A third date was added in Shanghai

Nov 12th, 2015 - Mercedes-Benz Arena, Shanghai, China

Will update tonight

[ezra]

Taylor will most likely do 200M+ but 270M is probably out of her reach. The worldwide dates won't really add as much to the total and prices will likely be much much cheaper than in the US and Canada.

[Icannot]

Originally posted by ezra

Taylor will most likely do 200M+ but 270M is probably out of her reach. The worldwide dates won't really add as much to the total and prices will likely be much much cheaper than in the US and Canada.

Average ticket prices are much higher outside of NA, surprisingly.

Someone clock me if I am wrong.

[alestevens]

Originally posted by Icannot

Average ticket prices are much higher outside of NA, surprisingly.

Someone clock me if I am wrong.

In Europe they're lower, but dates should still gross around 700K-900K except for Ireland and Glasgow because those venues looked way too small i guess. In Australia they are lower but still fairly expensive. In Japan i never saw the prices, but in China and Singapore they have the most expensive tickets of the entire tour by far:

Singapore:
$244,77
$214,92
$185,07
$140,30
$95,52

China:
Red: $367,31
Pink: $238,43
Orange: $141,77
Green: $77,33

[revel8]

If we pretend the average ticket price for Japan is the same as Red Tour, and the Shanghai and Singapore venues generate the same revenues as they did in the Red Tour, then that would equal about $20 million from those 7 dates alone. However ticket prices have gone up since Red Tour, so that means at least $20 million (ignoring currency fluctuations) from Asia so far.

I expect Taylor to add further dates in November. She currently has more than a 2 week gap in that month. Unless she is planning to perform in the AMAs this year, she should add some more Asian or Australasian dates. She could add HK, Manila, Bangkok, Jakarta, KL, Perth and Auckland dates easily.

[taylor__fan]

Originally posted by revel8

If we pretend the average ticket price for Japan is the same as Red Tour, and the Shanghai and Singapore venues generate the same revenues as they did in the Red Tour, then that would equal about $20 million from those 7 dates alone. However ticket prices have gone up since Red Tour, so that means at least $20 million (ignoring currency fluctuations) from Asia so far.

I expect Taylor to add further dates in November. She currently has more than a 2 week gap in that month. Unless she is planning to perform in the AMAs this year, she should add some more Asian or Australasian dates. She could add HK, Manila, Bangkok, Jakarta, KL, Perth and Auckland dates easily.

I don't think she will perform at the AMA's but she will attend
AMA's are always the Sunday before thanksgiving, so I guess they will be November 22nd this year
She will probably go back to the US for that and stay there for Thanksgiving, and then she goes to Australia. Her last date is on November 12th, so she still has more than a week if she wants to add a date

[Ramos]

Just updated the OP with the new China date.