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Poll: Will R8 be inspired by FKA twigs?
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View Poll Results: Will it?
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I can't decide but it is so clear from this pic
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Originally posted by swissman
Maybe you think I'm not.
But I'm familiar enough with it to know that Kelela debuted on the scene after FKA did and that the style of braid she wears is entirely different than the style that FKA twigs wears, and even then, is this just about the braids or the entire aesthetic, for which Kelela is not known, firstly because she simply is not as big as FKA, and secondly because she does not have that style at all?
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the both FKA Twigs and kelela had remained unpopular until last year, trust me, FKA Twigs is not even this popular outside ATRL.
secondly, Rihanna, Kelela or even FKA Twigs all of them are just inspired by current underground scene in general, especially the dark getto look of Drill culture. whether they's the braids, twists or dreadlocks...they doesn't make the big difference to the total style
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Originally posted by simon
I REALLY was not trying to turn this into a Rihanna bash thread - but this has valid points. The moment I saw this picture in the "#R8 Thread" last month, the first thing I thought was that she was going to borrow "FKA Twigs" look. Many on the first page agreed with me as well.
The reason she gets away with it is because like the Navy has pointed out to me, she borrows from artists that has a large cult or indy following, but them, themselves, do not have a strong mainstream presence. However, many people are still familiar with their looks. |
I understand where you are coming from but people can't say Rihanna is ripping off FKA Twigs because FKA herself is not on a level for her to CLAIM the style. This style has been coming back for years. Black girls all over the world braid their hair in this style. I would say it was Solange who really started to bring that black 90s/ Afro punk fashion back. FKA Twigs is like a MUSE to a lot of stylist who are pushing this look forward.
As you said Rihanna is really good with catching trends, maybe she did see a picture of twigs on tumblr but I have seen pictures of a lot of girls with the same style. Until Rihanna slicks down her hair to her forehead she is not copying FKA Twigs.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Rihanna already had that look at some point. She had already done it before two decades ago, I don't care enough neither am I a part of her team to know whether she took inspiration from FKA twigs and neither are you or your fellow Hive members who suddenly found interest in FKA twigs.
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This isn't a Hive thing though, as much as you'd like to reduce it to that. There are other people on ATRL and in real-life who see the similarities. As you say though, they are only similarities and unless we explicitly know where she got the idea from, we can't say, but we can easily show similarities between one up-and-coming artist who is known for her "cool" aesthetic and a superstar's new look.
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Originally posted by lonnie
It's not something new for someone to do styles that have already been done before, as I earlier pointed out Beyonce had braids for the say yes video. Why didn't the Hive say she was copying FKA twigs then? Especially considering it was just when she was releasing her new music last year?
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Why would you compare Beyoncé's small braids in the Say Yes video to FKA's though? They are completely different styles and came accompanied with a much different look as far as fashion and overall aesthetic goes.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Trends? What trend was the red hair? What trend was Rated R hair? What trend was the hair from we found love video? What trend was from the unapologetic haircut?
Try staying to analyze something that is simply just someone reinventing herself.
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You're jumping to conclusions and assuming that when I say "trends" that it means that everything she's ever done has been part of a trend and that it's exclusive to hair. It could be, like the Victoria Beckham bob in 2007, or the shaved side look. Or it could be fashion wise such as the Ghetto Goth look and the We Found Love British street style look, or it could be musically with Loud in 2010 in the dancepop era. It's not a bad thing, I think it's actually an asset to be able to identify whats hot or going to be hot and get on it before it's over, thus always being appealing.
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
the both FKA Twigs and kelela had remained unpopular until last year, trust me, FKA Twigs is not even this popular outside ATRL.
secondly, Rihanna, Kelela or even FKA Twigs all of them are just inspired by current underground scene in general, especially the dark getto look of Drill culture. whether they's the braids, twists or dreadlocks...they doesn't make the big difference to the total style
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
the both FKA Twigs and kelela had remained unpopular until last year, trust me, FKA Twigs is not even this popular outside ATRL.
secondly, Rihanna, Kelela or even FKA Twigs all of them are just inspired by current underground scene in general, especially the dark getto look of Drill culture. whether they's the braids, twists or dreadlocks...they doesn't make the big difference to the total style
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FKA is pretty darn popular outside of ATRL. She's not a household name but she is for people who are familiar with music culture, and I'm not talking about basic Top 40 music culture. There's a reason she's covered such big magazines and even the same magazine that this thread has sparked.
And how are you going to compare a specific style of braid that FKA and Rihanna wear to a dreadlocks or twists? That's like saying that a ponytail and a bun are the same thing. Kelela isn't really that ghettofab at all. You're just grouping her into it because it's a braid on her head.
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I thought it might happen as soon as I saw this 
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Originally posted by swissman
This isn't a Hive thing though, as much as you'd like to reduce it to that. There are other people on ATRL and in real-life who see the similarities. As you say though, they are only similarities and unless we explicitly know where she got the idea from, we can't say, but we can easily show similarities between one up-and-coming artist who is known for her "cool" aesthetic and a superstar's new look.
Why would you compare Beyoncé's small braids in the Say Yes video to FKA's though? They are completely different styles and came accompanied with a much different look as far as fashion and overall aesthetic goes.
You're jumping to conclusions and assuming that when I say "trends" that it means that everything she's ever done has been part of a trend and that it's exclusive to hair. It could be, like the Victoria Beckham bob in 2007, or the shaved side look. Or it could be fashion wise such as the Ghetto Goth look and the We Found Love British street style look, or it could be musically with Loud in 2010 in the dancepop era. It's not a bad thing, I think it's actually an asset to be able to identify whats hot or going to be hot and get on it before it's over, thus always being appealing.
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Rihanna started doing less with her hair since the doobie on 2013 during the A.M.As  , the ghetto goth look is also F.K.A? I thought it was tge New York female dj Venus or whatever her name is?
Those braids aren't a trademark for FKA twigs
What is so hard to understand? Literally millions of girls around the world have or have had braids before, including Rihanna.
Ghetto goth is totally different from what F.K.A twigs image is, what's more the ghetto goth look began in New York, F.K.A is from London?
I don't see the correlation, Rihanna had already began doing less with her hair even before I knew or heard of F.K.A twigs.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Rihanna started doing less with her hair since the doobie on 2013 during the A.M.As , the ghetto goth look is also F.K.A? I thought it was tge New York female dj Venus or whatever her name is?
Those braids aren't a trademark for FKA twigs
What is so hard to understand? Literally millions of girls around the world have or have had braids before, including Rihanna.
Ghetto goth is totally different from what F.K.A twigs image is, what's more the ghetto goth look began in New York, F.K.A is from London?
I don't see the correlation, Rihanna had already began doing less with her hair even before I knew or heard of F.K.A twigs. |
Please read my words more carefully. I never said that FKA was ghetto goth. When I said "ghetto goth", I was indeed referencing the New York female that you also are referring to.
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Originally posted by paulsnyder90
It's quite the same aesthetic.
People ripping on Rihanna for *apparently* stealing "ghetto goth" from this chick....but Rihanna has already been exploring it.
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Rihanna has been exploring the style since 2011 B4 TWIGS became FKA TWIGS
When I first saw the cover the first person that came to my mind was DA BRAT
Everything is referenced back to the 90s but DARKER-PUNK-GOTH
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wtf does that cover have to do with FKA twigs? 
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Originally posted by swissman
FKA is pretty darn popular outside of ATRL. She's not a household name but she is for people who are familiar with music culture, and I'm not talking about basic Top 40 music culture. There's a reason she's covered such big magazines and even the same magazine that this thread has sparked.
And how are you going to compare a specific style of braid that FKA and Rihanna wear to a dreadlocks or twists? That's like saying that a ponytail and a bun are the same thing. Kelela isn't really that ghettofab at all. You're just grouping her into it because it's a braid on her head.
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i will assume that she's popular but do you even have the proof to prove that Rihanna is inspired by her beside your surmise ?
let's talk a little about style and fashion but i guess you know a litlle to nothing about fashion. Of course dreadlocks or twists or braids are different in term of technique but they looks similar in term of overall shape - thick and long. otherwise, pony tail and bun are totally different. that's not the same equivalent. by the way one doesn't need to be a ghettofab to be inspired by their style, none of the three above are ghettofab, it's just style matter.
Finally, i'm really shock that this thread has over 5 pages just because of the braids......lol or because of kind of person who takes unworthy problems too serious like you ?
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
i will assume that she's popular but do you even have the proof to prove that Rihanna is inspired by her beside your surmise ?
let's talk a little about style and fashion but i guess you know a litlle to nothing about fashion. Of course dreadlocks or twists or braids are different in term of technique but they looks similar in term of overall shape - thick and long. otherwise, pony tail and bun are totally different. that's not the same equivalent. by the way one doesn't need to be a ghettofab to be inspired by their style, none of the three above are ghettofab, it's just style matter.
Finally, i'm really shock that this thread has over 5 pages just because of the braids......lol or because of kind of person who takes unworthy problems too serious like you ?
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This isn't about proving who inspired Rihanna, this thread is asking whether she will be inspired by FKA, as there seems to be definite similarities between the two lately. Whether you think she wasn't or someone else thinks she wasn't is a matter of opinion, and there will be no proof either way.
Now what's with people assuming I know nothing about something just because they want to prove their point? I'd hardly call what you're talking about "fashion" talk but ok. But you're right a twist and a dreadlock and a braid are all the same shape. Bravo. But do they evoke the same style? Dreadlocks have a culture all their own, a much different one from the type of braids you'd see on Snoop Dogg, Rihanna or FKA.
I also never said that you had to be ghettofab to be inspired by their style. I said that FKA was pretty "ghettofab" (in quotations because I don't like that term) and that Kelela is not (she's much more subdued and again, the only similarity is that her hair is braided, but the style is all different).
Lastly, I'm not taking these problems too seriously. It's not a problem to me if Rihanna was inspired. That's life. I'm okay with it. Are you? You may want to look at yourself in that case, as you seem very annoyed that anyone could fathom that Rihanna could take inspiration from someone else other than Rihanna.
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I would absolutely love it if she did.
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No.
ATRL really needs to know their music history.
It will definitely be inspired by Janet and Lauryn Hill.
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I think Twigs does the better homage to Janet.
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No please 
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Rihannas lead single sounds nothing like Twigs and a magazine cover doesn't mean her whole era is gonna be inspired by Twigs...let's wait to see the video and her performances before we go deeming her era a FKA knock off.
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It appears that this isn't the look for the era after all 
She's rocking this slick-back look a lot.
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