[FreeBitch]

Originally posted by Auraeolux

Satire does NOT = "inoffensive"

"There's nothing offensive about these pictures if you don't put them in the context they were draw."

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Halien4Life

Kinda baffling how they have "racism" to prevent them from mocking black culture, "homophobia" for the gays, but it's FREEDOM of speech when it comes to muslim culture.

Most of what they have done towards muslims is basically racist.

While I agree that they are all offensive, people are allowed to publish offensive things. You shouldn't have to skirt around every groups sentiments with your own private publication, website, etc.

[Auraeolux]

Originally posted by FreeBitch

"There's nothing offensive about these pictures if you don't put them in the context they were draw."

The comedic context does not exempt it from being innoffensive. If comedians can be offensive so can this.

[Auraeolux]

Originally posted by artpop

The idea that we "have to respect religion" by some people in this thread is absolutely ridiculous and quite frankly a stupid idea. We have to be allowed the freedom to criticize bad ideas and bad beliefs .

Yes; as do we have the right to criticize this particular bad idea..

[Callisto.]

Originally posted by FreeBitch

"There's nothing offensive about these pictures if you don't put them in the context they were draw."

What other context can i put a picture of a black person drawn as a soot colored gorilla with huge pink lips and a banana?

I'm trying to see what I'm not seeing.

[Halien4Life]

Originally posted by Brando

This. Islam is still a very young religious and they are currently going through their equivalent of dark age Christianity. Truly sorry for them. It will take hundreds of years for them to see progress.

I am in awe....

[BlueTimberwolf]

I saw that comment Buddy.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Auraeolux

Yes; as do we have the right to criticize this particular bad idea..

I agree, but you don't have the right to stop it from happening.

[Dereon]

Originally posted by Halien4Life

Kinda baffling how they have "racism" to prevent them from mocking black culture, "homophobia" for the gays, but it's FREEDOM of speech when it comes to muslim culture.

Most of what they have done towards muslims is basically racist.

So true.

[effie593]

I have always been a believer that in no way should someone or something be allowed to be offensive as long as it is veiled for 'comedic' purpose. All religions should be respected and all people should have the right to the practice of their religion.

Instead of this why didn't they just have some sort of tribute to the victims on the front page?

[RomanNavy]

Smh the cover is safe and basic
I expected some extremely offensive cartoon
What a shame

[Yassin512]

I come from a muslim country and I approve of this cover if the context is what I think it is. In my stupis ass country people immesdiately went out and held candles and signs in front of the french ambassador's home and everbody was "Je suis Charlie" . And it seems that the supposed intellectuals did it just to seem cool... But they were not showing enough support when thousands of people died in Gaza or even when they announce terrorist's attacks elsewhere. 3 men from my country died in the attacks in Paris including a cop but almost nobody cared as much as they did for the whole situation.
Now on the other hand if the cover means that "muslims are hypocrits as in they do terrorism attacks and then hold sings to show support" then the cover is somewhat offensive yes. It not only looks like Charlie Hebdo is looking for more trouble and provoking terrorists and not caring about their country, it's also offensive to all muslim people since they consider them all to be terrorists which is not the case and I still don't understand how some even still do.

[Bríseis]

Originally posted by artpop

The idea that we "have to respect religion" by some people in this thread is absolutely ridiculous and quite frankly a stupid idea. We have to be allowed the freedom to criticize bad ideas and bad beliefs .

Yeah, sure, showing respect is always such a stupid idea...

[Auraeolux]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

I agree, but you don't have the right to stop it from happening.

......I already said "yes" to your original post.

[YoYo]

50 anti-Muslim attacks in France in less than a week: Monitoring group

So sad. It's a cycle that won't likely stop.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Chemist

Oppressed by whom?

...really?

[Carrie-is-no-1]

I'm sick of this, really.

Let me quote Baudrillard.

"We naively believe that the progress of the Good, its rise in all domains (sciences, democracy, human rights) correspond to a defeat of Evil. Nobody seems to understand that Good and Evil rise simultaneously, and in the same movement... Terrorism, like a virus, is everywhere. Immersed globally, terrorism, like the shadow of any system of domination, is ready everywhere to emerge as a double agent. There is no boundary to define it; it is in the very core of this culture that fights it."

[Adonis]

Originally posted by YouBetterPopBitch

Brilliant cover.
I'm sorry but the ones offended by that cover are the ones that don't understand it.
There's nothing offensive in it, really.

Anyone can take offense to anything anyone says.

[TikiMiss]

People who are offended by this need to sit the eff down. Even satan is drawn for christs sake. If you don't like seeing drawings of Muhammad, don't read it.

[FreeBitch]

Originally posted by Callisto.

What other context can i put a picture of a black person drawn as a soot colored gorilla with huge pink lips and a banana?

I'm trying to see what I'm not seeing.

This topic has been discussed to death in every threads covering The Charlie Hebdo but let me take another example which has nothing to do with my Black experience.

In 1978, The Holocaust was just beginning to be understood in all its horror by ordinary French that Charlie Hebdo dared coverage : " Finally, we can say , Hitler was super Nice ." The draw of the cover signed by Wolinski , was a Hitler in leather boots and gray -green uniform saying all smiles , " Ça gaze Hi Yid ? " Here, in this regard, it is worth recalling Wolinski who was murdered in Wednesday's attack. Georges Wolinski was a very old man , born there eighty years in Tunis, a Polish Jewish father and a French-Italian Jewish mother . Thinking he has survived 1940-1945 , not 2015 ... chilling entourloup .



I'm not saying people can't be offended if they feel like it offensive to them, their beliefs but you need to have the intend behind the picture. You can't just say racist bla bla bla.

Charlie Hebdo cartoonists have been fighting Racism and all the kind of bigotry (including religious ones) their whole life and seeing them being accused of racism now that they are dead and can't defend themself is painful to me.

In french society, there's nothing sacred. We don't have any anti blasphemous law beside the blatant racism which is not considere an opinion by our law. You can criticize everything you feel is bad including ANY KIND OF RELIGION/Attitude. Our limit is fixed by the law. POINT BLANK.