[Mat.91]

Originally posted by Dawn

Demi is not known outside of the US and Brazil. That's is a fact. Her album sales aren't impressive in any country and her singles haven't smashed like Ariana's have. Please don't embarrass your fanbase like is, you sound rather delusional.

Ariana has already outpeaked Demi in every single aspect. That's just the way it is I'm sorry.

Actually, she's known. The press talk a lot about her here in Italy. But radio are not spinning her. At all. She had zero radio hit in Europe. The UK is only market where she has support. When things change we could talk. In Europe without radio support you're nothing.

[dirrtydiana]

Love me Harders the weekends verse alone.

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by M!X

My Everything.

@ Demi stans having to use re-release + feature from a huge UK popstar and a song from Frozen to make Demi stats in UK seem impressive

they're all included in the Demi's era and in the Demi's record. Ariana's stans used Bang Bang too, and that's not even included i n the psysical version, while Skyscraper, Let It Go and Up are in Demi's physical.

[ElectricFrancis]

My Everything. Problem and Break Free are still sounding everywhere

[M!X]

Originally posted by Mat.91

they're all included in the Demi's era and in the Demi's record. Ariana's stans used Bang Bang too.

Even without Bang Bang, Problem was #1 and sold more than any Demi single there and Break Free is on par with her bigger singles

[pika]

Originally posted by Mat.91

they're all included in the Demi's era and in the Demi's record. Ariana's stans used Bang Bang too.

Yes, cause how awful and 'not fair! ' it is to count a song that not only had its biggest selling point be Ariana, but was already pre-determined to be on her album. As opposed to stacking up 7 singles (8 counting MITUSA) to still sell less than her. Just stop.

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by M!X

Even without Bang Bang, Problem was #1 and sold more than any Demi single there and Break Free is on par with her bigger singles

And so?... HA was top 3 and sold 300k with way less radio support. Anyway we were talking about total records sold + both albums are Silver. It's not like Ariana is 2xp and Demi sold 10k,

[Jet]

pika scalping

[J. T.]

My Everything, but Ariana already peaked, Demi hasn't.

[pika]

Anyways, it was already confirmed that even with counting Skyscraper and all those tacked-on singles, My Everything > DEMI in the UK which was probs the last 'trump card!' they had to go off topic and ignore the main point.

Streaming (the Lovatics fave go-to argument when talking about certifications): Ariana
Album sales: Ariana
Single sales: Ariana
Awards: Ariana

There's really nothing left to discuss.

Originally posted by J. T.

My Everything, but Ariana already peaked, Demi hasn't.

Err,drag? Hopefully she hasn't, for your sake. After 4 albums ranging from mediocre to even more mediocre, I think we're all hoping she sees some type of bigger success one day.

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by pika

Yes, cause how awful and 'not fair! ' it is to count a song that not only had its biggest selling point be Ariana, but was already pre-determined to be on her album. As opposed to stacking up 7 singles (8 counting MITUSA) to still sell less than her. Just stop.

I'm standing up with my thoughts regardless your opinions. Demi's era was a success in UK for Demi and it's not far away from ME.

WW, ME is way way bigger.

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by pika

Anyways, it was already confirmed that even with counting Skyscraper and all those tacked-on singles, My Everything > DEMI in the UK which was probs the last 'trump card!' they had to go off topic and ignore the main point.

Streaming (the Lovatics fave go-to argument when talking about certifications): Ariana
Album sales: Ariana
Single sales: Ariana
Awards: Ariana

There's really nothing left to discuss.

I said from the very first moment that the answer was ME!

[BlazingLovatic]

Originally posted by pika

Yes, cause how awful and 'not fair! ' it is to count a song that not only had its biggest selling point be Ariana, but was already pre-determined to be on her album. As opposed to stacking up 7 singles (8 counting MITUSA) to still sell less than her. Just stop.

If we're still talking about the UK, Jessie J says hi.

[ArianaStan]

Originally posted by J. T.

My Everything, but Ariana already peaked, Demi hasn't.

Girl I think you got it twisted. She didn't even get a #1 single this era. If anyone has peaked its demi, but even that would be a reach since Demi stays on the same level with every new era unlike Ariana. It's been pretty clear Ariana will be here for a while ever since Problem debuted with 438k copies in its first week in the US. Her next lead single will be even larger, if you use logical thinking since she debuted with 400k coming from a era that did mediocre, and this era did much better, so her next lead single should do even better since her fanbase has exponentially grown.

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by ArianaStan

Girl I think you got it twisted. She didn't even get a #1 single this era. If anyone has peaked, but even that would be a reach since Demi stays on the same level with every new era unlike Ariana. It's been pretty clear Ariana will be here for a while ever since Problem debuted with 438k copies in its first week in the US. Her next lead single will be even larger, if you use logical thinking since she debuted with 400k coming from a era that did mediocre, and this era did much better, so her next lead single should do even better since her fanbase has exponentially grown.

I wouldn't be so confident. Nothing is a sure thing in the industry. But if Ariana plays it safe I can see her even increasing her status. She needs to released this fall again..

[Zayn Malik]

Originally posted by Mat.91

I wouldn't be so confident. Nothing is a sure thing in the industry. But if Ariana plays it safe I can see her even increasing her status. She needs to released this fall again..

I doubt she'll release, she has a tour to focus on.

But on topic, didn't it take ME less time to reach 1M WW than it did DEMI?

[pika]

Originally posted by BlazingLovatic

If we're still talking about the UK, Jessie J says hi.

I really don't care to have another off-topic argument again, only for me to end up being right. If it makes you that much happier, Ariana was one of the biggest contributions to the song being a hit. Problem hitting #1 and Break Free right behind it as another top 20, is more than enough proof for it to count.

Originally posted by slayleygomez

I doubt she'll release, she has a tour to focus on.

But on topic, didn't it take ME less time to reach 1M WW than it did DEMI?

DEMI hasn't reached 1 million yet.

[TheLuckyOnes]

From a US standpoint (i dont give a **** about the UK), ME was bigger

you guys are so mean to the demi stans, all the shade 하고 dragging isnt necessary

[Mat.91]

Originally posted by slayleygomez

I doubt she'll release, she has a tour to focus on.

But on topic, didn't it take ME less time to reach 1M WW than it did DEMI?

Yes, and ME was bigger than DEMI.

[Oblivion]

ME.