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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (June 18-25, 2014)
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
DH, Happy, All Of Me, and Counting Stars are all near / passed in 2014 though?
+ Stay With Me, Rude, Fancy, and Wiggle I think have possibilities if they keep some good longevity.
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SWM, Rude, Fancy, Wiggle - none of these songs are showing any signs of a 5 million seller. I can see Fancy topping out around 4 million (it just crosses 2M this week and is already <200k/week).
DH, Happy, AOM will probably be the 3.
New singles won't have enough time. I can't believe how much digital sales have collapsed this year.
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Most Weeks in Top 10:
20: Happy
17: All Of Me
12: Turn Down For What
8: Fancy
7: Problem
4: Am I Wrong and Wiggle
3: Rude and Summer
2: Stay With Me
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Originally posted by Jennifer
New singles won't have enough time. I can't believe how much digital sales have collapsed this year.
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That's what I was thinking.
I was predicting Fancy to have a CMM-type run atop the Hot 100 with stable digital sales, but I don't see it happening. It's going to dip below 200k soon.
Rude is just now blowing up, so it has a slight chance. I doubt it'll pull BL or TS weekly #s, though.
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Enrique Iglesias lands his 11th top 40 hit as "Bailando" (featuring Descemer Bueno & Gente de Zona) jumps from #53 to #40 in its seventh week. This is Iglesias' first Spanish-language song to make the top 40 …
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Lorde's "Tennis Court" jumps from #92 to #83 in its 12th week. The song has climbed as high as #71
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
That's what I was thinking.
I was predicting Fancy to have a CMM-type run atop the Hot 100 with stable digital sales, but I don't see it happening. It's going to dip below 200k soon.
Rude is just now blowing up, so it has a slight chance. I doubt it'll pull BL or TS weekly #s, though.
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Rude won't be a digital monster. Ot's gonna sell very good though but not VERY BIG
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Shower, Latch, and Classic 
Pressed that Problem is about to be Party in the USA 2.0 
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Problem is the We Can't Stop of this year
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Originally posted by Sinister
Jason taken off the credit for This Is How We Roll 
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I checked yesterday, and even though the Jason Derulo "This Is How We Roll" remix was on the Top 50 All Stations version of the Pop Chart, he was not listed as one of the artist by A1, and the A1 Chart did not give the track any credit for its airplay on Pop stations, nor list Top 40/Pop as one of the formats playing the song enough to reach the Top 50 (Top 100 including Recurrents). Maybe FGL fans and listeners are just not ready yet for another "Cruise"-like remix, even if both versions of that song are closing in on 7 million downloads (past 6.8 million now).
Florida-Georgia Line probably should have waited until its next CD/Digital Album before trying to attempt and release another crossover like "Cruise". Another point of interest: Jerrod Niemann's "I Could Drink To That All Night" collaboration with Pitbull appears to have flopped as well, and I thought Niemann's song was already rather-Pop and even Alternative friendly without a remix.
Fortunately, Luke Bryan IS getting credit for his crossover airplay with "Play It Again" at Hot AC/Adult Top 40 on A1, and he has achieved this WITHOUT a remix. Bryan's song just needs to really pick up steam at Hot AC and AC, and then make the move to Pop (that format may require a remix). Carrie Underwood and Lady Antebellum did not need remixes to earn crossover smashes at AC, Hot AC/Adult Top 40, Pop/Top 40 since the digital era began, so hopefully Bryan will not either.
Fine Print: Lady Antebellum did release a remix for "Need You Now", but the majority of Pop/Top 40 Stations opted for the original version. Also, both Underwood's and Lady Antebellum's crossover smashes preceded the streaming era, so it is unknown whether audio and video streaming would have helped, hurt, or had virtually no effect on each of those tracks' performance.
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Bailando
The hit we were all waiting for 
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Originally posted by brianc33616
I checked yesterday, and even though the Jason Derulo "This Is How We Roll" remix was on the Top 50 All Stations version of the Pop Chart, he was not listed as one of the artist by A1, and the A1 Chart did not give the track any credit for its airplay on Pop stations, nor list Top 40/Pop as one of the formats playing the song enough to reach the Top 50 (Top 100 including Recurrents). Maybe FGL fans and listeners are just not ready yet for another "Cruise"-like remix, even if both versions of that song are closing in on 7 million downloads (past 6.8 million now).
Florida-Georgia Line probably should have waited until its next CD/Digital Album before trying to attempt and release another crossover like "Cruise". Another point of interest: Jerrod Niemann's "I Could Drink To That All Night" collaboration with Pitbull appears to have flopped as well, and I thought Niemann's song was already rather-Pop and even Alternative friendly without a remix.
Fortunately, Luke Bryan IS getting credit for his crossover airplay with "Play It Again" at Hot AC/Adult Top 40 on A1, and he has achieved this WITHOUT a remix. Bryan's song just needs to really pick up steam at Hot AC and AC, and then make the move to Pop (that format may require a remix). Carrie Underwood and Lady Antebellum did not need remixes to earn crossover smashes at AC, Hot AC/Adult Top 40, Pop/Top 40 since the digital era began, so hopefully Bryan will not either.
Fine Print: Lady Antebellum did release a remix for "Need You Now", but the majority of Pop/Top 40 Stations opted for the original version. Also, both Underwood's and Lady Antebellum's crossover smashes preceded the streaming era, so it is unknown whether audio and video streaming would have helped, hurt, or had virtually no effect on each of those tracks' performance.
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he was credited because his remix version accounted for a lot of the points
BB has a rule for that...the version that accounts for the most chart points gets the credit
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Most Weeks in Top 10:
20: Happy
17: All Of Me
12: Turn Down For What
8: Fancy
7: Problem
4: Am I Wrong and Wiggle
3: Rude and Summer
2: Stay With Me
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I am almost certain this will be "Happy"'s last week in the Top Ten, though I think "All Of Me" still has several weeks left in the Top Ten, and will pass "Happy" for total weeks in the Top Ten, Top 40, and Hot 100. Remember, the song has been in the Top Four its entire time it has been in the Top Ten, or 17 consecutive weeks, and in the Top Three for 14 weeks, both of which are extremely impressive, Of course, the Top 40 and Hot 100 weeks will not be hard to beat once one compares John Legend's slowest same-release ever (31-33 weeks?), I do not feel like double checking right now) trip to Number One to Pharrell's rather rapid eight week trip to the top.
I think "All Of Me" gets 23 weeks in the Top Ten, and 45+ weeks in the Top 40 (I am not sure how long it stayed in the Top 40 before reaching the Top Ten, but if my math is right John Legend spent ten weeks in the Top Ten, all in the Top Four, and six in the Top Three, prior to Number One. I say "Happy" gets 33 weeks in the Top 40 (Pharrell only spent two weeks in the Top 40 on the way up, 25-11, so 33 weeks would include 11 weeks of dropping between positions 11 and 40). Let's see if I am right in the coming weeks.
I also think John Legend has a chance of beating out Pharrell on the year end chart. "All Of Me" peaked in points several weeks prior to finally passing "Happy" and reaching Number One, and the song is still dropping slowly. I think Legend will rule in Airplay, since no song ranked at number two in airplay has ever had that many impressions, and the streaming numbers will be close. "Happy" has a huge sales lead right now, which "All Of Me" much drop very slowly to catch up with between now and the end of November.
Of course Katy Perry's "Dark Horse" will rank very high at the end of the year due to its crossover to Urban radio, which provided extra airplay impressions, streaming, and digital downloads. I do not think she will be Number One for 2014, but she will probably finish between number three and number five for the year end Hot 100 chart year.
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"Counting Stars" will also rank high in the year end chart for 2014. IHype Music is right. However, enough of its total chart points accumulated in the 2013 Chart Year that it will not threaten for Number One. Remember, it was not even a finalist for song of the year at the BBMA, which would have measured One Republic's song at it's peak.
Also, the fact the song fell so low before catching back on and getting back into the Top Ten hurt the song's chances of ranking higher. "Counting Stars" debuted on the Hot 100 within the Top 40, but then fell out for like 12 weeks before the track finally caught back on again and made it back into the Top 40. This collapse right after the song's release and the time it took to recover will hurt its overall year-end rankings for 2014.
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Originally posted by Sinister
he was credited because his remix version accounted for a lot of the points
BB has a rule for that...the version that accounts for the most chart points gets the credit
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I was referring to the A1 Airplay Chart, not Billboard, which is supposed to combine all versions of all songs as long as the versions rank in the Top 50 Currents or Recurrents of one of the monitored formats, and at all the stations (not just the published ones). The remix is on the Published, Published+Recurrents, All, and All+Recurrents of the Pop Top 50, meaning the track meets the A1 requirements for format inclusion on the A1 Chart, but the impressions are not included in the A1 impressions total, nor is Top 40 listed as a contributing airplay format, and the format should be per the A1 chart rules.
I am aware of Billboard's rules, as they go with the most popular format when deciding which artists to include on its Hot 100. I am just pointing out FGL's limited crossover success with "This Is How We Roll, and how the Top 40 format should be listed alongside Country since the song has made Pop's Top 50. Fortunately, A1 has listed Hot AC along with Country for "Play It Again". At this time, Bryan's solo smash appears to have a better chance to crossover to non-Country formats successfully than the FGL remix track, which coincidentally just happens to include Luke Bryan as a featured artist alongside Jason Derulo.
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Originally posted by brianc33616
"Counting Stars" will also rank high in the year end chart for 2014. IHype Music is right. However, enough of its total chart points accumulated in the 2013 Chart Year that it will not threaten for Number One. Remember, it was not even a finalist for song of the year at the BBMA, which would have measured One Republic's song at it's peak.
Also, the fact the song fell so low before catching back on and getting back into the Top Ten hurt the song's chances of ranking higher. "Counting Stars" debuted on the Hot 100 within the Top 40, but then fell out for like 12 weeks before the track finally caught back on again and made it back into the Top 40. This collapse right after the song's release and the time it took to recover will hurt its overall year-end rankings for 2014.
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I think a good example of CS's year-end fate would be similar to Locked Out of Heaven. A chunk of LOOH's chart points were captured within October-November of 2012, but it still did great damage during the 2013 YEC tracking period - just like CS.
Also, it seems to have amazing longevity thus far. I believe it's creeping up on 52 weeks so far, and it's still in the top 25 on Billboard.
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
Seems like we will only have one or two five-million-selling singles this year. |
Happy has already sold over 5.5 million copies, all within 2014, so it should easily pass 6 million downloads, and might approach 6.5 million. Dark Horse will pass 6 million, but that will include downloads from 2013. Still, Katy Perry could reach 5 million for 2014 alone (I need to check exactly how many of those downloads are from 2013 and from 2014).
John Legend's "All Of Me" is at 3.5 million and still selling strongly, so that song should pass 5 million, and maybe 5.5 million before 2014. I think 6 million would be a stretch by the end of 2014, though I think the song will eventually pass 6.5 million copies some time in 2015. I would have to study the charts and see if any other song is a threat to passing 5 million. I am almost certain "Counting Stars" sold too much last year for consideration this year. If I find another song(s) that could challenge the five million (or higher) threshold, I will list it.
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Originally posted by brianc33616
Happy has already sold over 5.5 million copies, all within 2014, so it should easily pass 6 million downloads, and might approach 6.5 million. Dark Horse will pass 6 million, but that will include downloads from 2013. Still, Katy Perry could reach 5 million for 2014 alone (I need to check exactly how many of those downloads are from 2013 and from 2014).
John Legend's "All Of Me" is at 3.5 million and still selling strongly, so that song should pass 5 million, and maybe 5.5 million before 2014. I think 6 million would be a stretch by the end of 2014, though I think the song will eventually pass 6.5 million copies some time in 2015. I would have to study the charts and see if any other song is a threat to passing 5 million. I am almost certain "Counting Stars" sold too much last year for consideration this year. If I find another song(s) that could challenge the five million (or higher) threshold, I will list it.
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DH sold 1 million in 2013, give or take a few 10k's, right before it was announced as a single in December. I remember it and 23 crossing the 1 million threshhold at the same time.
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i forgot about Counting Stars
That and Turn Down For What should rank high
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I adore that song 