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Discussion: Should we respect religion?
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Originally posted by s.mo
This.
How are you not going to respect something that isn't hurting you
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Because I don't owe anybody or anything respect if I don't want to.
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Originally posted by Britney Spears
Respect
Verb
admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
So, what ability, quality or achievement, a person's belief possesses that i can admire?
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respect
rɪˈspɛkt/Submit
noun
due regard for the feelings, wishes, or rights of others.
"young people's lack of respect for their parents"
synonyms: due regard, consideration, thoughtfulness, attentiveness, politeness, courtesy, civility, deference
"he speaks to the old lady with respect"
verb
have due regard for (someone's feelings, wishes, or rights).
"I respected his views"
synonyms: show consideration for, show regard for, take into consideration, take into account, make allowances for, take cognizance of, observe, pay heed/attention to, bear in mind, be mindful of, be heedful of, remember; archaicregard
"at least they respect your privacy"
Respect provides harmony.
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I used too. But in this time, 2016, it's the worst thing we created. It's a source of hate, judging others, wars. Literally everything that's wrong with this world.
I just can't stand the fact that so many people can't choose their own path and get power from yourself instead of a old book without any prove and facts. It's all funny to me now. I'm almost on the edge that I want to say it's stupid.
I'm talking about people who are very dedicated to God.
Believe whatever u like if that makes you a stronger or better person for yourself but don't forget that it's a easy walk away from your weakness and truth.
The culture that has emerged through believe is the worst thing ever tho.
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I'll respect it if they respect me, but they don't so I won't
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80% of hatred and war in this world is caused by religion. So no.
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Originally posted by Wonderland
I'm sorry. but this is such a poor comparison.
Homosexuality doesn't oppress anyone while religion has been responsible for the oppression of so many. Many LGBT+ people (including myself) have a great deal of pent up, rational frustration at religious institutions because of how we have been treated in them, where's the same can't be said for the homophobe exhibiting irrational frustration at LGBT+ people who literally do not affect them in any way.
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Yeah, gay people can't oppress anyone because they don't have any institutional power like white male Christians. But that doesn't mean people from other religious groups aren't oppressed by the same societal structure that gay people are oppressed by. I'm not saying you have to be best friends with every religious person, but everyone in here saying "**** religion and their ******** beliefs" look like hypocrites when they demand tolerance from the same people they're disrespecting. So in that regard, religious people (or homophobes, as you have labelled them all) do have rational frustrations against LGBT+ people.
Personally, I believe in God because it makes me feel better but I don't really practice religion at all. That being said, I do know plenty of atheists and religious people. And usually, I find religious people to be more tolerant of people who aren't religious. In my experience, it's atheists constantly feel the need to prove how ""smart"" they are by talking down to everyone – like in this thread. Maybe it's because I live in a cosmopolitan city and not some backwoods town in Middle America, but that's just my experience. Every religion has its flaws, and many religious people acknowledge those flaws.
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Yes. In the same way you expect people to respect your views and beliefs, you should respect other people's. That doesn't mean you have to agree with everything about whichever religion - or anything at all - or that you can't discuss these subjects.
Maybe that means you have to respect the person who has religious beliefs, and not exactly the religion itself, but if you go on ranting about how religions are all based on "fictional beliefs" and because of that they have no validation, then you're just being rude and not respecting other people's views on the world, therefore, you're being intolerant.
I am no religious at all, but that's the way I see this. Everyone has the right to have their views on the world, of course some people use them to harm and offend other people and that's where the problem lies, but who are you to say they're wrong? You can try to convince them but it can go both ways.
If everyone knew that someone's beliefs belong to themselves and ONLY themselves, meaning what you think can only apply to you, and you can't expect the whole world to live in your manners, then the world would be a much better place. Unfortunately things don't work like that, but that would be the ideal.
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Originally posted by 4Real
Yes. In the same way you expect people to respect your views and beliefs, you should respect other people's. That doesn't mean you have to agree with everything about whichever religion - or anything at all - or that you can't discuss these subjects.
Maybe that means you have to respect the person who has religious beliefs, and not exactly the religion itself, but if you go on ranting about how religions are all based on "fictional beliefs" and because of that they have no validation, then you're just being rude and not respecting other people's views on the world, therefore, you're being intolerant.
I am no religious at all, but that's the way I see this. Everyone has the right to have their views on the world, of course some people use them to harm and offend other people and that's where the problem lies, but who are you to say they're wrong? You can try to convince them but it can go both ways.
If everyone knew that someone's beliefs belong to themselves and ONLY themselves, meaning what you think can only apply to you, and you can't expect the whole world to live in your manners, then the world would be a much better place. Unfortunately things don't work like that, but that would be the ideal.
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I don't understand this idea or why anyone should be obligated to respect something that they don't agree with just because someone else believes it. If that's the case we should respect racists, homophobes, anti-semitists and etc. views because "everyone is entitled to believe what they want as long as they aren't harming anyone". So basically I should respect the KKK and neo nazis if they aren't personally hurting me? I think the **** not
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since religion doesn't respect anything.
we shouldn't
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No, you don't have to respect religion but I think you should respect other people's beliefs as long as they don't threaten or hurt anyone.
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Religion caused more pain and suffering than anything else in the world.
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I say we respect religion to an extent
we cant allow any inhumane practices
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Does religion respect us?
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Originally posted by maddisonbutt
why would i respect institutions which teach their followers to hate the way I live.
I don't know why I should respect any religion, but my particular gripe is with Islam. They still execute people for being gay, and 90% of the muslim population believes gay people deserve to be killed. I'd even say I'm Islamophobic (scared of Islamic people) and why the F*CK wouldnt I be.
Any gay person should be scared of muslims who are moving from their intensely religious countries and into Europe - they DO believe you should be killed, make no mistake.
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Certain regions aren't ready to integrate with the west and we shouldn't feel racist or Islamophobic for feeling that.
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I think people just need to respect people in general, but I won't be tolerant of outwardly expressed hatred and attempts to unjustly govern others by their own personal beliefs and not just according to what causes harm to others. I am respectful of religion in general, but I don't blindly tolerate anything a person does in the name of any given religion.
That said, I think people on the extremes of both sides of the fence, both religious and non-religious do too much. There are religious zealots that cherry pick some of the worst parts of their old teachings to abide by (highly contradictory to the most prominent teachings of love, peacefulness and community found in most religions) in order to justify their own bigotry and on the other hand, there are people that don't believe in religion that can be just as unnecessarily spiteful and will dismiss all people of faith as stupid, sheep, bigots etc. and that's wrong, too.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by maddisonbutt
why would i respect institutions which teach their followers to hate the way I live.
I don't know why I should respect any religion, but my particular gripe is with Islam. They still execute people for being gay, and 90% of the muslim population believes gay people deserve to be killed. I'd even say I'm Islamophobic (scared of Islamic people) and why the F*CK wouldnt I be.
Any gay person should be scared of muslims who are moving from their intensely religious countries and into Europe - they DO believe you should be killed, make no mistake.
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