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Poll: Are you for or against the Burqa?
View Poll Results: Burqa or Bur-no?
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Ban it.
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Don't ban it.
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I don't know.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
Posts: 3,112
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Originally posted by Formation
I'm sorry but ya'll just bunch of white privileged islamophobic teens who think they know better how to live other people's life
let them do their thing & keep living your westren life in any way you chose.
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Someone is running out of arguments
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Ban it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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Originally posted by FBF
Aren't women encouraged to be a bit bigger in Islamic culture ? It's called beauty standards every society has them
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And I would call the Western standard for being bone thin to be more degrading than the burqa could ever be
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 5,054
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
And I would call the Western standard for being bone thin to be more degrading than the burqa could ever be
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Which is your right ! Other people have different opinions.
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
Posts: 37,284
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Originally posted by Formation
They not wearing it because they ''like it'', they wearing it because it is their culture...is it a bad thing?
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Yes if that aspect of their culture goes against the values of Western society (not oppressing women).
They can still wear a hijab. It's also rooted in sexism, but way less extreme. At least the women have an identity. You have to draw the line somewhere between accepting other cultures and allowing women to get oppressed.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 59,202
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Hmm, I'm not sure where I stand. I do find it uncomfortable and I believe it is a risk to security and my safety, however it's their choice to wear what they want, although some may be forced or "brainwashed" into thinking they want it, I have no idea.
Whatever.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 5,054
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
Yes if that aspect of their culture goes against the values of Western society (not oppressing women).
They can still wear a hijab. It's also rooted in sexism, but way less extreme. At least the women have an identity. You have to draw the line somewhere between accepting other cultures and allowing women to get oppressed.
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Pretty much. Hijab >>>
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,921
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
You claim that your Western society is so much more ~advanced~ than Islamic culture yet women are facing even more discrimination than ever!
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I can't believe you just typed this and clicked "submit"
poor women in Europe, America, Australia for not having the privilage women in Afghanistan and Pakistan have
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Against. It's obviously sexist.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
Posts: 19,942
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Germany taking religious liberties from another religious group? Wouldn't you think they'd have learned their lesson by now
Anyway, all you guys are extremely misinformed. TBH, the burqa isn't really a symbol of oppression.
IMO, you guys claim to be feminists & fight for the right for a woman to show as much of her body as she wants, but what if a woman wants to do the opposite? What if a woman wants to cover all of her body.
A burqa is very different from a ski mask.
I think they should have photo ID with their face, & maybe some changes like that.
I agree with other people. A lot of straight white men like banning things they have no info on. How can a man speak on abortion? How can a straight speak against homosexuality? How can a cis person speak against trans people?
It's the same for religion. Muslims shouldn't make rules against Christianity the same way Christians shouldn't make rules against Islam
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 589
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Originally posted by FBF
Are some place Westernphobic because they won't allow woman with their breast exposed at the beach then ?
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Yes.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 2,555
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Eh, I can see the security argument, but most people talking about how the burqa is sexist are probably a bunch of straight, bi or gay men who treat their fave female pop stars horribly, mock their bodies, call them flops, drag their looks, weight or skin color, etc. It's hard to weed out who really cares about women and who is just here to **** on (mainly) brown folks and play up tropes, exploiting the suffering of (mainly) brown women.
I say ban it for security purposes, but anyone who has any issue with the hijab is a racist.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
Posts: 19,942
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
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You legit have no idea how women in Pakistan are treated lol. I'm Pakistani and was raised by a woman who's dealt with all of that.
These middle eastern countries aren't barbaric. Pakistan has women showing their stomachs, ankles, knees on TV and all that. They're going through their own revolution, let them deal with their own issues and stop fake worrying about us.
You pretend like you care about how these women are treated but when it comes to accepting them into your country, Hell no. GTFO here with that mess.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 5,054
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Originally posted by Formation
Yes.
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No. They have a different culture that westerners are aware of and abide by when they go to these places.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 11,012
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I used to sit next to a girl who wore one for a full year in class. She was nice and seemed to have a good personality. However, I can say that I never saw her face once. That meant I never saw her expressions and therefore never quite had much to talk about because I wasn't sure if she even liked me due to not being able to see how she reacted to what I had said.
The reason for the use of the burqa seems to reduce women to that of a sexual object who must hide themselves in order to protect themselves from the uncontrollable sexual urges of men. It's insulting to both men and women.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
Posts: 13,040
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Originally posted by Pop
I'm against anyone being FORCED or BANNED from wearing it.
Both are dangerous extremes.
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This. Of course it's wrong for women to be forced to wear it, and I'm not for that at all. But, you guys fail to realise that there are women who WANT to wear it, who feel COMFORTABLE wearing it, and would RATHER wear it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Germany taking religious liberties from another religious group? Wouldn't you think they'd have learned their lesson by now
Anyway, all you guys are extremely misinformed. TBH, the burqa isn't really a symbol of oppression.
IMO, you guys claim to be feminists & fight for the right for a woman to show as much of her body as she wants, but what if a woman wants to do the opposite? What if a woman wants to cover all of her body.
A burqa is very different from a ski mask.
I think they should have photo ID with their face, & maybe some changes like that.
I agree with other people. A lot of straight white men like banning things they have no info on. How can a man speak on abortion? How can a straight speak against homosexuality? How can a cis person speak against trans people?
It's the same for religion. Muslims shouldn't make rules against Christianity the same way Christians shouldn't make rules against Islam
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All of this. My country is a free country and if a 6'3" tall, hairy man wants to walk around in a skin tight maxi dress he can and a woman can wear a burqa as well!
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
Posts: 19,942
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Originally posted by Communion
Eh, I can see the security argument, but most people talking about how the burqa is sexist are probably a bunch of straight, bi or gay men who treat their fave female pop stars horribly, mock their bodies, call them flops, drag their looks, weight or skin color, etc. It's hard to weed out who really cares about women and who is just here to **** on (mainly) brown folks and play up tropes, exploiting the suffering of (mainly) brown women.
I say ban it for security purposes, but anyone who has any issue with the hijab is a racist.
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Seriously. They cry sexism and stuff but they don't give a damn about the oppressed women and don't want to "Help them."
Ban the burqa and then what y'all gonna do? Nothing. You don't care about these women and stop pretending like you do.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
Posts: 19,942
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Originally posted by Daydream
This. Of course it's wrong for women to be forced to wear it, and I'm not for that at all. But, you guys fail to realise that there are women who WANT to wear it, who feel COMFORTABLE wearing it, and would RATHER wear it.
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The others will say they're brainwashed into thinking that's okay
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 16,541
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Against, but if a woman chooses to wear it (not being influenced/pressured), then it's absolutely her choice and she can wear it.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 1,975
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Germany taking religious liberties from another religious group? Wouldn't you think they'd have learned their lesson by now
Anyway, all you guys are extremely misinformed. TBH, the burqa isn't really a symbol of oppression.
IMO, you guys claim to be feminists & fight for the right for a woman to show as much of her body as she wants, but what if a woman wants to do the opposite? What if a woman wants to cover all of her body.
A burqa is very different from a ski mask.
I think they should have photo ID with their face, & maybe some changes like that.
I agree with other people. A lot of straight white men like banning things they have no info on. How can a man speak on abortion? How can a straight speak against homosexuality? How can a cis person speak against trans people?
It's the same for religion. Muslims shouldn't make rules against Christianity the same way Christians shouldn't make rules against Islam
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I'm sorry but nobody is really against covering up your body and wearing a headscarf. Modesty is fine but the Burqa is too extreme as the truth of the matter is it is NO different than a ski mask in that it completely hides the identity of someone. On no ground can you ban the balaclava and still allow the Burqa on cultural grounds. It is an all or nothing principal. If it poses a security risk just as great as the balaclava, that is the end of discussion.
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