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Discussion: What is Taylor's impact on music?
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
Even IF that were true, he sure as hell didn't do a good job of maintaining his own relevance. And I say that as someone who likes Kanye's music. Taylor has pretty much quadrupled his success and relevance this decade.
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Taylor was a faceless musician prior to Kanye
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Kanye didn't make Taylor famous. Only a sexist would think that . Expose yourself
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Originally posted by Javan
There was door sis
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Yes, there was. The biggest albums of the 00's were like, Britney Spears albums. NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc. All generic pop. The ONLY two albums I can think of that did smash thanks to confessional songwriting are the Diary of Alicia Keys and Breakaway, but those can be credited to the popularity of RnB, and Pop/Rock last decade.
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
Even IF that were true, he sure as hell didn't do a good job of maintaining his own relevance. And I say that as someone who likes Kanye's music. Taylor has pretty much quadrupled his success and relevance this decade.
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The real tea
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Originally posted by Dark Horse
Kanye didn't make Taylor famous. Only a sexist would think that . Expose yourself
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Behind her are standing only men, no females.
#feminism
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Originally posted by FutureHive
Taylor was a faceless musician prior to Kanye
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If you think that, then I'm sorry for you but I'm not going to try and change your wrong opinion.
But again, entertaining your claims, if Kanye did give Taylor relevance, she definitely utilized that momentum to propel herself into global superstardom. So she definitely handled her career properly.
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Some of these responses to praise Taylor are just tragic
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
If you think that, then I'm sorry for you but I'm not going to try and change your wrong opinion.
But again, entertaining your claims, if Kanye did give Taylor relevance, she definitely utilized that momentum to propel herself into global superstardom. So she definitely handled her career properly.
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Thank you Kanye
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Originally posted by FutureHive
Behind her are standing only men, no females.
#feminism
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It's not her fault there's a lack of women producers in the industry. Taylor's first AOTY had Liz Huett, and Colbie Caillat. Taylor's second AOTY had Imogen Heap, she just wasn't present. Every artist has a majority male producers. At least Taylor herself is showing a woman can write her own successful smash hits and be rewarded for her own album.
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Originally posted by Brando
None really.
Dying at people saying "break up songs" or personal songwriting. It existed since the creation of music
Sales is not impact. Awards is not impact. Like get a grip
Taylor is one of those artists who is generally harmless. People don't really mind her because she is so PG-13, very easily digestible and inoffensive. Her songwriting is very basic and easy to understand. There's no two ways about her lyrics, they are very linear and lack sort of depth, which makes her very easy listening and radio friendly. Unfortunately none of it is impact. Just success.
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I don't really get them. Taylor does have a distinct writing style and it's actually how you described it. Pretty basic and simple like a teenage girls diary and that also carries over to her style of singing.
Adele and Sam haven't removed themselves from the pop structure. What screams Taylor about Rolling In the Deep, she's singing in metaphors throughout. Stay With Me would fit better on Alicia Key's album I Am, besides No One than it would on any Taylor album. They tried it
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Originally posted by Brando
Taylor is one of those artists who is generally harmless. People don't really mind her because she is so PG-13, very easily digestible and inoffensive. Her songwriting is very basic and easy to understand. There's no two ways about her lyrics, they are very linear and lack sort of depth, which makes her very easy listening and radio friendly. Unfortunately none of it is impact. Just success.
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Um...I wouldn't call her songwriting basic. I don't even like Taylor, and I don't deny that she writes about basic things but songs like Enchanted are not basic. She's written some of the best pop songs of recent years. I also wouldn't say her lyrics lack depth either. Sure, if you're not listening past WANEGBT or SIO then yeah, she has no depth but songs like Ronan, Clean. All Too Well etc..... are all beautiful lyrically and show at least a bit of depth.
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Originally posted by CountryBritney
Um...I wouldn't call her songwriting basic. I don't even like Taylor, and I don't deny that she writes about basic things but songs like Enchanted are not basic. She's written some of the best pop songs of recent years. I also wouldn't say her lyrics lack depth either. Sure, if you're not listening past WANEGBT or SIO then yeah, she has no depth but songs like Ronan, Clean. All Too Well etc..... are all beautiful lyrically and show at least a bit of depth.
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Her detractors have selective listening. All they know is Bad Blood and Shake It Off.
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She is like the new Britney Spears but liked by a wilder demographic. Her music speaks to a huge a audience and she has the biggest influence on the 12-21 in the US and with her non-explicit music, she is liked by the parents too. She is what Britney Spears could have been if she was less "problematic" and if she had as much talent. She is the first and only pop girl I "stan" for.
Her writting may have been a bit corny at times but let's not forget that she started verry young.
More pop girls/young female artists should take notes and be more in control of their material.
She will go down in history as one of the best artist in the US of all time and the best role model for young girls. She will only get bigger and bigger and will take over the world lke she did with the US.
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Yikes at the sexist trolls still trying at it with the Kanye thing! My @'s too good for you
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The music industry and its artists wouldn't be the same without Taylor.
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lol her song-writing is far from basic. Try listening to her albums and you'll see this.
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
Yes, there was. The biggest albums of the 00's were like, Britney Spears albums. NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc. All generic pop. The ONLY two albums I can think of that did smash thanks to confessional songwriting are the Diary of Alicia Keys and Breakaway, but those can be credited to the popularity of RnB, and Pop/Rock last decade.
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Usher literally released an album called Confessions in that time period
Mariah had her smash hit "We Belong Together" which was also a "confession"song.
Maybe Big Girls Don't Cry opened the door to Taylor's career
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
So did Jewel, Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Josh Groban, and a host of others.
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Are you being serious with these two? Jewel dabbled in the genre, but she didn't make any impact as a country singer. Josh Groban has nothing to do with country music.
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Originally posted by Javan
Usher literally released an album called Confessions in that time period
Mariah had her smash hit "We Belong Together" which was also a "confession"song.
Maybe Big Girls Don't Cry opened the door to Taylor's career
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Usher has like, little to no writing credits on that album.
Mariah was the Taylor of the 90s as far as songwriting goes. She opened the doors for confessional songwriting in that decade. WBT was a one off of the 00s for her.
Taylor is a SELF MADE recording artist that writes her own music from her own personal experiences. That's my point.
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