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Discussion: Are Joanne album numbers impressive?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by ontherocks
No, they are not. Especially if you consider the relevance of an artist by their streaming numbers in 2016 which are part of the overall sales.
Lady Gaga went straight from modern contemporary act to the sound of a veteran one way too early in her career. Not relevant for the young audience, not played on the radio, relying on her core fanbase and soccer mums with lots of televized promo spots. She should have waited a few more years before attempting this.
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Wow so she went from a regular pop girl to a certified legend icon pop culture veteran queen of pop , I agree with you. She took the risk and it paid off, she got the superbowl halftime show , something only legends get, her risk paid off. The girls are shivering
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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They are decent. It's at 707k WW in pure sales and 1.1m with SPS
Once MR picks up in 2017, it's SPS numbers and pure sales will be good
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Wow so she went from a regular pop girl to a certified legend icon pop culture veteran queen of pop , I agree with you. She took the risk and it paid off, she got the superbowl halftime show , something only legends get, her risk paid off. The girls are shivering
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She went with the sound and marketing of it, not with the actualy legacy. That's the point.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
Right. Are they really trying to pretend that they didn't drag Rise, Make Me, Glory, or Anti when they were released?
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I remember the countless threads predicting for ANTI to do worse than ARTPOP.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by SeanET
not at ALL
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Stop it before we are shot up from all sides and a burning wreck is coming down.
She gave up her brand of weird dressing, Red One,... and made the music against everything the public thought she stood for. The radio stopped playing her music and still having enough stans to sell 700+ k.
The day our fave shed off her brand and everything that makes her good. Highly questionable what numbers this small base can pull.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by PrinceLightning
Hits really do sell albums if people are interested in your body of work and you are an established artist. See the talented Lady Gaga. People bouught her singles AND her albums because they were good. Now people buy her albums without any hits on the radio. And not you comparing an established artist like Rihanna with some newcomers. Didn't know she is on the level of Zayn, 5H, Shawn Mendes and the one that sings 7 years. Wow, Navy. Good to know. I'm gonna use it for future references.
EDIT: and now Joanne is selling better than Anti because of the Q4 release? What's your next excuse, Navy? Let's talk about how Rihanna's songs are spammed 24/7 by the radios just like that. People should know she released an album and should buy it but for some reason they don't even after hit after hit after hit.
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Honey, 600k people bought Anti in the US, 1.43M bought it worldwide, and that's after 1.47M copies were given away. On top of that the album was streamed 1.3 billion times in the US alone. Andddd on top of that, she's sold 4.1M tracks from ANTI in the US, including two million-sellers, one of them being the best selling female song of the year. Not her fault radios still wanna play her, but don't wanna play the upcoming SB performer, who used to score 3-4 hits per year and visited 1627272 radio stations this year.
Yes, a Q4 release boosts sales, with Black Friday, Christmas and the discounts that come with it. It's nothing new. Rihanna didn't discount Anti once, not even in Q4, and it's currently being sold at a higher price than Joanne.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by M A R C
I remember the countless threads predicting for ANTI to do worse than ARTPOP. |
I remember the countless posts claiming Joanne would do better than ANTI. 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by RobynFKA
The GAG....Monsters calling Navy bitter...Did you forget the bitterness of your fandom over Beyonce's consistency in relevance. Or your fandom's prediction that Taylor's transition to full POP was going to be a flop move... Com'on stop acting up here, we all know how the monsters will react if Katy Perry does even one unit less than Joanne.
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I actually can't tell you about that since I joined ATRL in late May and wasn't involved in any feud before then.
However, I guess it's been awhile since that happened, and you'd be really lying if you denied the HUGE amount of hate Gaga has been getting in the last few months. Why can't everybody just move on and get along with each other? 
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we all know how the monsters will react if Katy Perry does even one unit less than Joanne.
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I laughed HARD at this tbh 
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by Instant
They are decent. It's at 707k WW in pure sales and 1.1m with SPS
Once MR picks up in 2017, it's SPS numbers and pure sales will be good
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Give them all the tea.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by ontherocks
She went with the sound and marketing of it, not with the actualy legacy. That's the point.
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Oh wow, queen of pop, pop culture was in art now arts in popculture in her, the girls are bothered
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by istan4badgalriri
Honey, 600k people bought Anti in the US, 1.43M bought it worldwide, and that's after 1.47M copies were given away. On top of that the album was streamed 1.3 billion times in the US alone. Andddd on top of that, she's sold 4.1M tracks from ANTI in the US, including two million-sellers, one of them being the best selling female song of the year. Not her fault radios still wanna play her, but don't wanna play the upcoming SB performer, who used to score 3-4 hits per year and visited 1627272 radio stations this year.
Yes, a Q4 release boosts sales, with thanksgiving, Christmas and the discounts that come with it. It's nothing new. Rihanna didn't discount Anti once, not even in Q4, and it's currently being sold at a higher price than Joanne.
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Nice excuses, not buying it. Joanne will outsell Anti and Anti was released almost a year ago while Joanne 8 weeks ago and has half of sales WITHOUT A HIT and then there's the SB. I NEVER said it's Rihanna's fault that radios play her. It would be stupid to say that and I'm really glad for her since I was a fan and glad that her fans still hear her music spammed 24/7. It's not a problem AT ALL and it wasn't the point. All in all Joanne sales are very impresive.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Oh wow, queen of pop, pop culture was in art now arts in popculture in her, the girls are bothered
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Madonna is actually the Queen of Pop, I have to correct you here. But I see you can not counteract my argument anyway.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I think the album will stop selling around 900k WW tbh
It won't cross 1 million.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by katykater
Stop it before we are shot up from all sides and a burning wreck is coming down.
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Originally posted by katykater
She gave up her brand of weird dressing, Red One,... and made the music against everything the public thought she stood for. The radio stopped playing her music and still having enough stans to sell 700+ k.
The day our fave shed off her brand and everything that makes her good. Highly questionable what numbers this small base can pull.
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Good point. 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by ontherocks
Madonna is actually the Queen of Pop, I have to correct you here. But I see you can not counteract my argument anyway.
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In your opinion! I'm glad Gaga the queen of pop is now a veteran legend queen of pop icon, halfitme show will be very spectacular and a great moment, very few get that chance, legends. The girls are distressed
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Member Since: 1/1/2012
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Originally posted by One Nation
They ain't hear you.
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But 11 on physicals and just sold its 3rd best week in the US yet.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
In your opinion! I'm glad Gaga the queen of pop is now a veteran legend queen of pop icon, halfitme show will be very spectacular and a great moment, very few get that chance, legends. The girls are distressed
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This is not my opinion. This is a fact for a very long time actually. She is not a veteran legend. she is just sounding like a veteran, For a woman in her early 30's, it's actually a bit of a let down that she sounds soooo, idk flat in terms of production and lyricism. Hell, she sounds way less excited than a woman in her 50's. And the SB, without any shade looks a little bit like a farewell.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by PrinceLightning
Nice excuses, not buying it. Joanne will outsell Anti and Anti was released almost a year ago while Joanne 8 weeks ago and has half of sales WITHOUT A HIT and then there's the SB. I NEVER said it's Rihanna's fault that radios play her. It would be stupid to say that and I'm really glad for her since I was a fan and glad that her fans still hear her music spammed 24/7. It's not a problem AT ALL and it wasn't the point. All in all Joanne sales are very impresive.
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They're not excuses, just facts. Clearly you don't know much about all that. 
And you shouldn't keep saying that Joanne will outsell Anti... Y'all neverrr learn. 
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Member Since: 4/30/2012
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no lol
the only people impressed by these numbers are her fans
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