[Loveyoubxtch]

But ... it already is

[jose168]

Also mess at beyonce stands having to use album sales from one era, singles from another anda tour from a third to even compete

[Howie]

Originally posted by jose168

Also mess at beyonce stands having to use album sales from one era, singles from another anda tour from a third to even compete

You're slow too

In order to completely dominate an era you have to be #1 in all aspects, 1989 is not #1 in every aspect when you compare it to Beyonce's eras. The question is not: Will 1989 up bigger than DIL, B'Day, IASF, 4 or BEYONCE. It was will 1989 end up bigger than any Beyonce era. Meaning will 1989 end bigger than any Beyonce era to date aka every Beyonce era from 2003 - 2014, will 1989 supersede it, and the question is no. in order for 1989 to be bigger than any Beyonce era it has to outsell Beyonce's biggest albums, it has to outsell Beyonce's biggest singles, it has to outgross Beyonce's biggest tour, and gain more critical acclaim, impact, and awards. Its a no in EVERY category.
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I mean even tho OP said "Can/will 1989 end up being bigger than any Beyonce era once the album sales reach DIL's?" meaning once it knocked out album sales from DIL will it be bigger than any Beyonce Era, because he was comparing it to EVERY Beyonce Era not just ONE.


the delusion the lack of comprehension

[Vine101]

Originally posted by jose168

Also mess at beyonce stands having to use album sales from one era, singles from another anda tour from a third to even compete

Right??

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1989 has a huge tour, huge album sales, huge singles and a large media presence. Beyonce's never had an era this solid.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Vine101

Right??

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1989 has a huge tour, huge album sales, huge singles and a large media presence. Beyonce's never had an era this solid.

But the OP was not comparing it to one era, he was comparing it to every era. he was comparing 13 years of Beyonce to 2 years of Taylor.



So if he is doing that why wouldnt you use 12 years of stats. We didn't pose the question

[Havoc]

Originally posted by Theus

No they aren't.

So you think Adele's stardom was bigger or even similar to MJ's in 91? Please. Which 21 video was as big of an event the Black and White video?

[Bounce]

The Hive

The OP asked is 1989 bigger than every Beyonce era? He didn't say combined... you can't nitpick singles from one era and album sales from one era and touring gross from one era to fit you agenda


Mrs Carter Tour is from the 4 era and Beyonce era tease

1989 is bigger than every beyonce era...none of her eras are bigger than 1989 accept it and move on.

ISAF 7.5m (?) 1989 close to 8m WW in a much worse climate.

It wins.

[pablozedd]

Charts wise I think it already is bigger than any Beyonce album. If not, it'll be in the future.

[Eternium]

In terms of albums/TEAs/SEAs, it is already bigger than any Beyoncé era. The tour will do over $200M and the fifth single will give 1989 a lot of breathing room over IA...SF and TWOTW.

[Underdogs]

It already is?

[KillingYourCareer]

Ugh why are some people trying to say that Taylor is more successful in non-English speaking countries in Europe? I mean almost no one would be able to name one song by her here (she's only had two songs on the radio in her whole career after all). Beyoncé, on the other hand, has had several top ten hits.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by jose168

Also mess at beyonce stands having to use album sales from one era, singles from another anda tour from a third to even compete

I'm actually surprised the DC receipts aren't flying everywhere yet, but if the discussion keeps going, I'm sure they will be.

[ToLove]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

Ugh why are some people trying to say that Taylor is more successful in non-English speaking countries in Europe? I mean almost no one would be able to name one song by her here (she's only had two songs on the radio in her whole career after all). Beyoncé, on the other hand, has had several top ten hits.

Who gives a ****? The Hive are the FIRST fan base to argue about how sales are just sales regardless of where they come from, (at least after 2009, they are), but now when the receipts clearly show that 1989 is more successful than every Bey era already (except MAYBE Dangerously in Love, which could change), all of a sudden, it's "TAYLOR ISN'T AS KNOWN IN LATVIA AS BEY IS!!! EVERYONE IN TURKMENISTAN IS BLASTING SINGLE LADIES, BUT NO ONE KNOWS SHAKE IT OFF!!!"

1989 has massive singles, album sales, touring stats, and award accolades, and it's not even over yet. Why can't some of you just accept it? And let's be real, being a HUGE success in a few major music markets >>>>>>>> being moderately successful in less relevant, scattered markets.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Rafael

I swear there's a Britney fan in every Beyoncé related thread that gets created daily on ATRL

Coincidence? There are a lot of Britney fans on ATRL, ya know.

[Mr.Link]

Adjusted for inflation she already did. Wasn't DiL released 12 years ago?

[Rusty]

It certainly seems like a more successful all-around era than any one Beyonce era. The tour looks like it'll outdo TMCWT with those insane numbers from just 20 shows.

Originally posted by Havoc

So you think Adele's stardom was bigger or even similar to MJ's in 91? Please. Which 21 video was as big of an event the Black and White video?

Unless you've stats for half a billion premiere viewers (not 24 hours, literally premiere, same-time viewership), nobody in history has a video as big an event as Black or White, with the congressionally library-preserved masterpiece Thriller as an exception.

[Baby Boy]

It's already bigger than 4 of them. It'll end up bigger than Dangerously in Love too. I mean, it kinda already is when you consider how different the climate is in 2014/2015 compared to 2003/2004.

[jose168]

Originally posted by Howie

But the OP was not comparing it to one era, he was comparing it to every era. he was comparing 13 years of Beyonce to 2 years of Taylor.



So if he is doing that why wouldnt you use 12 years of stats. We didn't pose the question

the failure of reading comprehension

being bigger than any beyonce era =/= bigger than every beyonce era combined

DIL vs 1989
Album Sales - 1989
Singles - Tie, although id give 1989 a slight edge
Tour - 1989
Acclaim - DIL, mostly for CIL. although 1989 as an album seems to be more acclaimed

Bday vs 1989
Album Sales - 1989
Singles - 1989
Tour - 1989
Acclaim - 1989

IASF vs 1989
Album Sales - 1989
Singles - tie
Tour - 1989
Acclaim - 1989

4 vs 1989
lol

Beyonce vs 1989
lol

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by jose168

1989 is one of those sheer elite eras, only pop girl eras comparable are tfm, bomt, jagged little pill, 80sdonna etc. Bey isn't quite there

True.

[Baby Boy]

Why is the hive of all fan bases bringing up the global vs. local argument..