Now you're just ignoring our points, which are valid.
Vocals
Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taylor
Dancing: both are weak, but Taylor's shown absolutely 0 skills while Kelly has shown SOMETHING at least, that's why she wins this too.
Kelly >> Taylor
Songwriting: Taylor is better but not by that much. Don't use the stupid co-write excuse, OK? We've already explained that Kelly's usually responsible for most of the lyrics AND the melody, she just works with instrumentalists.
Furthermore, Taylor's instrumental's are not that technically impressive either, tbh. Some of her songs have like 3 chords. If you'd bother to listen to Kelly's tracks that she's written all the lyrics and melody for, you would see that even though Taylor might be a little better, Kelly's surely got talent and doesn't just get away with just "co-writes".
Taylor > Kelly
Overall, Kelly Clarkson >>> Taylor Swift.
I've had enough of your ignorance. Seriously, just repeating the same point over and over again, and it isn't even valid.
Clearly, Taylor has more talents. She is a more complete artist. In the long run, she will be regarded for her craft as a songwriter and singer, even if people now are too bothered to give her credit.
"Speak Now" remains an album written entirely and solely by her. I'm not sure what else people expect her to do.
No one expects her to do anything else. That doesn't mean she is more talented than anyone else because she took it upon herself to do that. More brave? Yeah. More talented? Still subjective.
Sales does not equal talent. That's just ignorant to believe. Taylor IS talented, but if you can't see that Kelly's vocal capacity and performing skills blow Taylor's out of the water than it's just because you're pressed. Kelly's songwriting is fantastic too, and if you'd bothered to give some of her tracks a listen, you might find that both artists are stan-worthy.
I didnt like Taylor that much when I first listen to her songs. It's only the later part when I found out all her songs were written from her that I start to notice her and give her songs a few more listens. And yeah. She's a good story teller. Kelly is different. The moment I hear her sing live, that's when I started to stan for her. Then I went to listen to the rest of her discography and she ain't that bad of a song writer too.
Without her troupe of songwriters and producers, Kelly Clarkson would not be able to put out an album. Taylor Swift already proved that she can ("Speak Now").
Edit: LOL at Kelly fans using dancing as a supposed talent that Kelly has. Reachhhhhhhh.
Why do you have to be like that? I'm a big fan of Taylor too, now you're just starting a useless stan war...
Why are you disregarding Kelly's talent? She's showed skill in areas other than singing too.
No one expects her to do anything else. That doesn't mean she is more talented than anyone else because she took it upon herself to do that. More brave? Yeah. More talented? Still subjective.
I posted this on page 4. I agree that Taylor's a better songwriter, she's a great storyteller. Kelly's pretty good too
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Some tracks where Kelly has cowritten with instrumentalists but is responsible for the lyrics and melody:
The flawless Irvine from My December.
These are all from her last two albums, All I Ever Wanted and Stronger. My December was a huge learning experience for Kelly when it comes to songwriting, and I think these are spectacular. Sure, Taylor Swift might be better, but I can't with people saying Clarkson doesn't write her own music.
They are both extremely talented and two of my all-time favorites, I voted for Kelly though. Not only is she a great songwriter, she is an amazing vocalist.
Without her troupe of songwriters and producers, Kelly Clarkson would not be able to put out an album. Taylor Swift already proved that she can ("Speak Now").
Edit: LOL at Kelly fans using dancing as a supposed talent that Kelly has. Reachhhhhhhh.
Yes, because working with others makes you less talented. Wait, no, it's actually important to get diverse viewpoints and ideas on artistry, otherwise you're going to rehash the same thing over and over again. ALL artists agree with that. You can't be surrounded by "yes" men in the industry, otherwise you become too self-indulgent and make poor artistic decisions. This doesn't necessarily relate directly to Taylor Swift but point is, your argument is flawed.
Youre right, Kelly is a WW star, still getting top 10's around the world after 10 years in the business. Taylor has had like what, 1 or 2 WW hits at most?
Kelly is far more superior. Not that i'm trying to take anything away from Taylor, she is great in the country world and she is a nice person.
Errrr... that kinda hurts your point. Kelly is a bigger star outside the US so she SHOULD be outselling Taytay by a mile. Actually is Kelly even WW anymore? I'm pretty sure Taylor has sold more albums outside the US with each of her albums than Kelly has with anything after Breakaway.
Yes, because working with others makes you less talented. Wait, no, it's actually important to get diverse viewpoints and ideas on artistry, otherwise you're going to rehash the same thing over and over again. ALL artists agree with that. You can't be surrounded by "yes" men in the industry, otherwise you become too self-indulgent and make poor artistic decisions. This doesn't necessarily relate directly to Taylor Swift but point is, your argument is flawed.
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Originally posted by Taigan
Why do you have to be like that? I'm a big fan of Taylor too, now you're just starting a useless stan war...
Why are you disregarding Kelly's talent? She's showed skill in areas other than singing too.
atrl polls are pretty useless when measuring talent. I am sure bieber would win against johnny cash here quite easily.
You obviously dont know much about ATRL then. Yes, they aren't worth anything but stans will go into overdrive to defend their fave when they lose one.