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Poll: More impressive: 1989 vs. Beyoncé?
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1989
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59.06% |
BEYONCÉ
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Member Since: 12/6/2011
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Originally posted by Thor
You're kidding, right?
There were huge expectations from Beyonce. Everyone had their eyes on her. The anticipation was everywhere. And if she had underperformed, she would've been dragged to the pits.
But she didn't. She exceeded expectations. And with a non-traditional release.
Let me also add that, Beyonce wasn't coming from a huge era when she dropped BEYONCE. Taylor is. So again, Beyonce's feat seems more impressive.
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Beyonce had the superbowl and various other high profile exposure plus largely positve image in the press and GP.
Taylor on the other hand had very little in the way of good press or image, plus she hadn't had much presence at radio until SIO.
And SIO video and song had a lot of negative reaction as well as positive.
and i still maintain expectations for Bey's sales of any new release were not a topic anyone beside her most dedicated fans here on atrl. i dont recall anyone in critic circles speculating if her sales would make or break the industry for the year.
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Everybody seems to forget that BEYONCE was coming off an album that leaked a month before, and two possible lead singles that leaked within a week of each other (RTW and End Of Time). In the pop world, that next album could be a make or break moment. For all of those foolish 1989 fans that are saying that Beyonce low-key did promo the whole year leading up to release also forget that NO SINGLE, ALBUM TITLE, ALBUM PERIOD was released before. BEYONCE has shown us that unconventional releases can be successful with the right artist and material (It has to be an almost "lightning in a bottle" moment in an artist's career). So far, Taylor has shown me that if you sell out to pop, work with Max Martin on an album, have promo all year, AND market yourself to heartbroken teenage girls....you can sell a million first week in a horrible album selling environment. You could actually say this era is a complete duplicate of her label-mate Ariana Grande's rollout. (except with more sales)
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Originally posted by Superpower
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Because you guys keep saying it changed the whole industry and it hasn't at all
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
What about how beyonce's latest album having fron-page itunes banners in every single iTunes store in the world?
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Sorry sweetie. That doesn't really make sense.....Taylor is selling her album EVERYWHERE these first three days, you can probably find her face on billboards, on shelves in Target, along with ITUNES BANNERS, when Bey was only on YouTube and ITunes, along with some 10-month old displays in Walmart that were taken down? Bey only released to iTunes. No other retailers.
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1989 in every way...
It sells more and without the help of some carefully planned gimmick and a long period of hyping herself up.
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Originally posted by Trent W
Because you guys keep saying it changed the whole industry and it hasn't at all
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The hive keep saying that but show no receipts
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+ 1,000,000 is more impressing than 600k
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Originally posted by Trent W
Because you guys keep saying it changed the whole industry and it hasn't at all
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Bae. Its okay. Pulling a Beyonce is the new thing. It has brought into speculation new releases from U2, along with upcoming releases from Rihanna, Adele, and Kanye, ALL of which might still release this year but NO single is present in the marketplace. Get to stepping booboo
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
The hive keep saying that but show no receipts
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That's not the only thing
The fact that they keep saying it changed the industry when we haven't seen one major surprise release since BEYONCE
Taylor is really saving the industry, the real impact and sales show it!
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Originally posted by trainsskyscrapers
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YET not one of them has released that way....
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
The hive keep saying that but show no receipts
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You know what. Some of these Stans of other artists need to use the internet more often.....I hate having to give "how to use your computer 101" courses.
Okay. Here goes..
Simply type in Pulling a Beyonce on Google and either look at the amount of articles that appear, or the amount of names of other artists that are being compared to the release. Media has changed the music business, so that would be a good place to start.
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BEYONCE was all novelty, hype and little else, so Taylor.
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Originally posted by Trent W
YET not one of them has released that way....
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Wow Trent!! We have a resident fortune-teller up in here! I guess we'll have to wait and see, my friend, won't we?
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Beyoncé did it with a decent album so i guess it was more impressive marketing
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Originally posted by Trent W
YET not one of them has released that way....
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And they won't because it's a terrible gimmicky release strategy, the other girls want their albums to have longevity and not only get the world to focus on their album 4 a brief moment and completely forget about it in a couple of months
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So technically Taylor is on single #4 as this album is released? (Shake It Off, OOTW, WTNY, Blank Spaces)
I don't remember Bey even needing promo singles, let alone full-blown lead singles with placements on every talent and award show BEFORE the album is released. But I guess any measure will be taken to get that 1mil first week.
Oooop. I'm sleep.
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
And they won't because it's a terrible gimmicky release strategy, the other girls want their albums to have longevity and not only get the world to focus on their album 4 a brief moment and completely forget about it in a couple of months
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Two fortune-tellers? We need to open up an agency up on here. (Maybe do some Tarot cards as well). Please tell me how it will be released?
Also, award season has already started. Bey has snatched some VMAS, MOBOs, the Vanguard Award, and some other business awards for the release along with the Harvard Case study on the album. Can't wait to see what the winter 2014-2k15 award season hold. Remember 20 years is still 240 months. (It all depends on your definition of couple of months). Get that popcorn popping!
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1989. Beyonce was just a surprise release that backfired in the end.
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Originally posted by Trent W
That's not the only thing
The fact that they keep saying it changed the industry when we haven't seen one major surprise release since BEYONCE
Taylor is really saving the industry, the real impact and sales show it!
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Did you not wake up to a U2 album embedded into your iTunes one morning?
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Taylor's number aren't surprising tho. She's America's sweet heart who caters to every possible market there is from children to adults. Her face is every where constantly, and with the recent success of her previous two albums and the fact that she showed no signs of slowing down, of course she's going to sell this much.
As opposed to Beyonce who when she dropped her album, the big question was "How much will it sell tho?" since "4" was considered a big flop. No one asked that about 1989, everyone knew it was going to be a million album seller since Shake it Off hit #1 instantly.
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