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Poll: Bigger R&B Force:Ciara vs Kelly Rowland
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Ciara
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79 |
55.63% |
Kelly Rowland
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63 |
44.37% |
Member Since: 12/4/2010
Posts: 6,582
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So Kelly Rowland must be a bigger force than Beyonce RIGHT NOW, because Motivation was bigger than any single Beyonce released in her 4 era.
Bringing up old receipts is not adding any value to what you're saying.
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Member Since: 8/25/2011
Posts: 2,287
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Quote:
Originally posted by ciara
You're comparing their most recent biggest hit and you're pulling receipts from 2011, shouldn't that be telling you something?
Like I said, In that case that would make Kelly Rowland bigger than Beyonce. Which is not the case.
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a: all it tells me is that Kelly hasn't scored a bigger hit than "Motivation" in the past two years. Which really isnt shade, because the span between "Promise" and "Body Party" is 7 years.
b: and no, it wouldn't make her bigger than Beyoncé because "Love on Top" is a grammy award winning, platinum certified R&B single that peaked at no. 20 on the Hot 100 chart. so.. yeah.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
a: all it tells me is that Kelly hasn't scored a bigger hit than "Motivation" in the past two years. Which really isnt shade, because the span between "Promise" and "Body Party" is 7 years.
b: and no, it wouldn't make her bigger than Beyoncé because "Love on Top" is a grammy award winning, platinum certified R&B single that peaked at no. 20 on the Hot 100 chart. so.. yeah.
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A.) Love Sex and Magic was released in 2009 and it reached the Top 10 on the Hot 100 and was Grammy nominated. Higher than any Kelly Rowland single since Dilemma back in 2002.
b.) Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to prove. She isn't a bigger force, but is according to your perspective.
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Member Since: 8/25/2011
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Originally posted by ciara
A.) Love Sex and Magic was released in 2009 and it reached the Top 10 on the Hot 100 and was Grammy nominated. Higher than any Kelly Rowland single since Dilemma back in 2002.
b.) Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to prove. She isn't a bigger force, but is according to your perspective.
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a. R&B.
b. I never said Kelly was the strongest force in the world of R&B, I said between HER & CIARA, they're on an even playing field. the only time I placed her higher than anyone it was ciara and that was when I was basing my views on their statistics within the past few years.
work of your comprehension skills, sis.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 12,517
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Pls stahp
They're both one of the biggest R&B-girls in industry, does it matter who is #1 or #2?
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
a. R&B.
b. I never said Kelly was the strongest force in the world of R&B, I said between HER & CIARA, they're on an even playing field. the only time I placed her higher than anyone it was ciara and that was when I was basing my views on their statistics within the past few years.
work of your comprehension skills, sis.
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1. Love Sex Magic is R&B sis.
2. I never said you did. I'm trying to prove a point. If Kelly Rowland is a bigger force than Ciara with Motivation, then she's a bigger force than Beyonce, because Beyonce's last hit went #20 and didn't do as much damage as Motivation. But in the end, that was in 2011. If she's a bigger force, why hasn't her CURRENT singles done the damage Motivation did? Because she's no force.
Work on your context clues sis.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 7,226
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its not even worth arguing with RudeBoy....she/he always has something to say in any ciara thread and claims they are a "fan" but then always has an excuse to go against her
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 17,142
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Omg I can't believe that some people are saying Kelly Rowland. I love her but no. Just no!
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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people are just pressed because all they have been doing is calling her a flop and shes succeeding on every front
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by ciara
So Kelly Rowland must be a bigger force than Beyonce RIGHT NOW, because Motivation was bigger than any single Beyonce released in her 4 era.
Bringing up old receipts is not adding any value to what you're saying.
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Yes and 4 sold 10 times as much as Here I Am and Talk a Good Game combined. Not to mention Love On Top was just as big of an R&B hit as Motivation (both 7 consecutive number one weeks on the chart) and won a Grammy. So that's really not making any sense.
Talk a Good Game has sold around 50% more than Ciara, but, Body Party is more successful than any of the the TAGG singles. But albums>singles, so Kelly has the edge over Ciara IMO, but, slightly. They're pretty much even as far as their standing. I mean, K. Michelle is outselling both of them right now.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Ciara is above Kelly Rowland since the day Goodies hit #1.
There is no question.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
Posts: 6,582
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and if we're talking from a social media stand point Ciara is still bigger.
Ciara
Facebook: 6,977,000+ likes
Twitter: 4,737,000+ followers
Youtube: 651,000 subscribers + 431,493,657 views
Kelly Rowland
Facebook: 3,425,000+ likes
Twitter: 5, 342,000+ followers
Youtube: 286,000+ subscriber + 199,505,096 views
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Member Since: 8/25/2011
Posts: 2,287
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Originally posted by TurntUp
its not even worth arguing with RudeBoy....she/he always has something to say in any ciara thread and claims they are a "fan" but then always has an excuse to go against her
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I am a fan, I am however, not blind or stupid. I'm looking at EVERYTHING from a statistical stand point. Just because I'm not blindly agreeing w/ y'all doesn't mean I don't like Ciara.
Name one thing that I've stated is irrational or completely wrong? I'll wait.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 17,142
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Originally posted by ciara
and if we're talking from a social media stand point Ciara is still bigger.
Ciara
Facebook: 6,977,000+ likes
Twitter: 4,737,000+ followers
Youtube: 651,000 subscribers + 431,493,657 views
Kelly Rowland
Facebook: 3,425,000+ likes
Twitter: 5, 342,000+ followers
Youtube: 286,000+ subscriber + 199,505,096 views
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Slay'em.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ascension
Yes and 4 sold 10 times as much as Here I Am and Talk a Good Game combined. Not to mention Love On Top was just as big of an R&B hit as Motivation (both 7 consecutive number one weeks on the chart) and won a Grammy. So that's really not making any sense.
Talk a Good Game has sold around 50% more than Ciara, but, Body Party is more successful than any of the the TAGG singles. But albums>singles, so Kelly has the edge over Ciara IMO, but, slightly. They're pretty much even as far as their standing. I mean, K. Michelle is outselling both of them right now.
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Well of course, Kelly Rowlands album was released about A MONTH before Ciara's and it's only sold about 50,000k more overall. Yall acting like her album is on the way to hit Gold. Not much of a difference. Overall, CIARA (album) has had more impact, with VMA nomination and with Body Party and I'm Out and once again it was released a month after, so it's no wonder it has no advantage in sales just yet.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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lets continue this thread in 6 months...same outcome
then in 2 years...same outcome
and so on
Kelly can continue to judge music because she isnt a contender in making music
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
Posts: 15,562
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This was a messy read.
But obviously Ciara !
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Quote:
Originally posted by RudeBoy™
I am a fan, I am however, not blind or stupid. I'm looking at EVERYTHING from a statistical stand point. Just because I'm not blindly agreeing w/ y'all doesn't mean I don't like Ciara.
Name one thing that I've stated is irrational or completely wrong? I'll wait.
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the receipts state it all ![;)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 7,152
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Ya'll need to stop the truth is til this day Kelly is STILL being overshadowed by bey in youtube comments, facebook, the media, everywhere
Ciara aint being overshadowed by someones presence and dont bring up Rih cause the only people comparing them are the fanbases
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