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Discussion: Avril or Kelly C: Bigger this decade?
Member Since: 1/28/2010
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Someone needs to update Avril's receipts thread on here since y'all keep saying it's dated
And I don't use MT so Kelly's sales are reliable.
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For your receipt, The OT of Avril's receipts has been inactive and I have Billboard as a proof:
http://m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/139169
GL standed at 394k copies in US and probably crossed 400k mark now
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Originally posted by KKCuteCat
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Yeah, the numbers are biT out of date but not by much. The thread was last updated in late September. Have someone take it over so we can all be speaking the same language plz
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Yeah, the numbers are biT out of date but not by much. The thread was last updated in late September. Have someone take it over so we can all be speaking the same language plz
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The sales that greeneyed***** posted there were just the estimation btw . She estimates the sales based on certification which might be inaccurate.
And trust me, last updated in late September doesn't mean she update everything. 400k in Japan happened in late 2011 or early 2012 .
So don't tell me that you trust a recipte thread over mediatraffic. I mean, both are unofficial but mediatraffic is much more reliable.
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Originally posted by KKCuteCat
The sales that greeneyed***** posted there were just the estimation btw . She estimates the sales based on certification which might be inaccurate.
And trust me, last updated in late September doesn't mean she update everything. 400k in Japan happened in late 2011 or early 2012 .
So don't tell me that you trust a recipte thread over mediatraffic. I mean, both are unofficial but mediatraffic is much more reliable.
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Maybe I expected too much from the receipts thread I find those to be more reliable since stans are usually very active in the the threads and constantly throw in up to date numbers.
ANYWAYS, Kelly was more successful this decade. I'm peacing out.
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
OK let's pretend your Kelly receipts aren't inflated ( ). Your Avril receipts are wrong. We have extensive receipts in our Avril thread backed by credible sources. Here are her numbers;
Stronger - 1.75M
Wrapped in Red - 1M
Greatest Hits - 1M
PXP - 300k
Total: 4.05M
Avril
Goodbye Lullaby - 1.65M
Avril Lavgine - 700k
Total: 2.35M
Kelly
Stronger - 6M
Mr. Know it All - 2M
Catch My Breath: 2M
Total: 10M
Avril
What the Hell - 5M
Smile - 1.3M
Wish You Were Here - 1.1M
Alice - 1.4M
HTNGU - 1.7M
Hello Kitty, Rock n Roll, Let Me Go - 400K
Total: 10.9M
Avril's total; 13.25 M records.
Kelly: 14 M records.
That's Avril with two albums, Kelly with 4. Avril has greater impact WW scale when she releases. Plus Avril has 6 vevo certified videos, and her tour dates double Kellys amount.
Those receipts don't include her charity single 'Fly', which sold WW also - as well as Bad Reputation which was a Top 10 hit in Japan this decade, as well as her soundtrack single How You Remind Me released in Japan, also a top 40 hit in Japan. So if you want me to fish out those receipts, deflate Kelly's receipts - we know who really had a better WW impact.
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DMF must be mad but he'll just need to look at Kworb's artist ranking to make him feel better.
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Originally posted by caleb.
DMF must be mad but he'll just need to look at Kworb's artist ranking to make him feel better.
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Wait I'm confused - Kelly has an artist ranking on Kworb more than three times as high as Avril's current ranking
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Originally posted by prollyallmyfault
Wait I'm confused - Kelly has an artist ranking on Kworb more than three times as high as Avril's current ranking
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Oh yeah, Kelly released an album this year and she has a higher ranking on knowrb than Avril. Idk, but it's really weird. Anyone knows why?
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
Avril Lavigne.
She has toured twice, her album sales are better than Kellys. Kelly beats her at single sales, but only in the U.S. Avril's WW presence has more impact. Overall, Avril is a bigger star, and has had always had a bigger impact than Kelly.
I love Kelly though <3
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spill that tea
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Kelly Clarkson. poor delusional Avril fans.
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Let's support each other instead of arguing. Rangers & Burgers, stop please
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Awards/Nominations this decade.. Kelly has 2 AMA Nominations,6 Grammy Nominations(1 Won), 2 VMA Nominations, 1 People's Choice Nomination, 4 Teen Choice Nomination, 5 CMA Nominations(1 Won)
Avril this decade LITERALLY NONE
obvious answer Kelly..
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
OK let's pretend your Kelly receipts aren't inflated ( ). Your Avril receipts are wrong. We have extensive receipts in our Avril thread backed by credible sources. Here are her numbers;
Stronger - 1.75M
Wrapped in Red - 1M
Greatest Hits - 1M
PXP - 300k
Total: 4.05M
Avril
Goodbye Lullaby - 1.65M
Avril Lavgine - 700k
Total: 2.35M
Kelly
Stronger - 6M
Mr. Know it All - 2M
Catch My Breath: 2M
Total: 10M
Avril
What the Hell - 5M
Smile - 1.3M
Wish You Were Here - 1.1M
Alice - 1.4M
HTNGU - 1.7M
Hello Kitty, Rock n Roll, Let Me Go - 400K
Total: 10.9M
Avril's total; 13.25 M records.
Kelly: 14 M records.
That's Avril with two albums, Kelly with 4. Avril has greater impact WW scale when she releases. Plus Avril has 6 vevo certified videos, and her tour dates double Kellys amount.
Those receipts don't include her charity single 'Fly', which sold WW also - as well as Bad Reputation which was a Top 10 hit in Japan this decade, as well as her soundtrack single How You Remind Me released in Japan, also a top 40 hit in Japan. So if you want me to fish out those receipts, deflate Kelly's receipts - we know who really had a better WW impact.
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Well you're only getting Japan sales,, I dont really consider Japan as WW sooo stop. lmao
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Originally posted by Jessica Sanchez
Well you're only getting Japan sales,, I dont really consider Japan as WW sooo stop. lmao
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No I won't stop because if Avril had 4 album releases this decade as Kelly did, this wouldn't even be a debate. The numbers show that Avril has had similar sales figures to Kelly with two album releases compared to Kelly's 4. There really is no grounds for debate who has more substantial selling power. FYI Grammys don't sell albums.
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Avril's last big era was with TBDT. Stronger only was bigger than Goodbye Lullaby and Avril Lavigne.
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
No I won't stop because if Avril had 4 album releases this decade as Kelly did, this wouldn't even be a debate. The numbers show that Avril has had similar sales figures to Kelly with two album releases compared to Kelly's 4. There really is no grounds for debate who has more substantial selling power. FYI Grammys don't sell albums.
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This is true.
Avril has only 2 albums this decade and she has almost the same sales that Kelly with 4 albums
This is not even a DEBATE. The winner is AVRIL obviously.
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As a stan of both, the answer is Kelly Clarkson. I stan Avril slightly more than Kelly, but the fact is Stronger was bigger than anything Avril did. Kelly doesn't seem like a "big artist" nowadays but she's proven she can have sleeper success; and has done so with Mr Know It All, Catch My Breath AND Heartbeat Song on a worldwide scale. Not to mention Stronger was HUGE. The answer is Kelly and there's no way around it.
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Originally posted by RihannaRTT
As a stan of both, the answer is Kelly Clarkson. I stan Avril slightly more than Kelly, but the fact is Stronger was bigger than anything Avril did. Kelly doesn't seem like a "big artist" nowadays but she's proven she can have sleeper success; and has done so with Mr Know It All, Catch My Breath AND Heartbeat Song on a worldwide scale. Not to mention Stronger was HUGE. The answer is Kelly and there's no way around it.
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You are so delusional . Stronger (the song) is the only success that Kelly had this era. It's also the only success that Kelly wins over Avril. The fact that Stronger (the album) and GL sold exactly the same amount and Avril Lavigne outsold PBO said it all
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Originally posted by vinKC
Kelly Clarkson. poor delusional Avril fans.
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It's obvious that Avril has a worldwide impact than your Kelly. You're the one who is delusional here.
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