[AmorePau252]

Beyonce!!

[HaHa2011]

Beyonce.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by Mélina

She got more followers than Ryan from the ice cream parlor down the street. Of course, this might be because he never tweets unless it's about a new sale they're having, but still, such a flop.

And Facebook likes, Fashion Magazines (whatever that means) and mostly other things that don't involve spending money.

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

You need to stop with the Forbes nonsense. It's one of the weakest ways to detract from the point. It's like a Rihanna fan saying "TIME MAGAZINE SAID SHE WAS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL POP STAR IN THE WORLD THEREFORE IT'S TRUE!!! "

It's an estimation from one publication complied by a total of 3 writers that states very clearly they create their data based on estimations from speaking to sources outside their camp. It's a fluff piece. Besides, how much money a celebrity supposedly makes is not that relevant to the question at hand. Jessica Simpson makes millions and millions of dollars a year, but she's hardly relevant today.

Argue those points with factual data we can see. You won't though because the problem is you can't.

Stop with the Forbes nonsense? Who do you think even mentions social rank/power etc like Youtube/Facebook/Vevo etc? ONLY Forbes, and Rihanna still fails to place higher than Beyoncé even when Beyoncé is doing nothing.

[AmorePau252]

Wow! The vote is 2:1

[Amaru]

Originally posted by Icing

Bey. I was just thinking about this. Imagine if Bey (or Gaga or Brit in her prime for that matter) collaborated with a man who beat her to a pulp three years earlier. Or imagine if she was constantly photographed smoking weed and getting "thug life" tattoos. There would be a HUGE public outcry. But that just isn't the case for Rihanna. The public wants her catchy songs and that's it. Her pull as a public figure just isn't as strong as those ladies.

Basically.

Beyonce is far more powerful, a superstar. Forbes got the receipts.

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Icing

Bey. I was just thinking about this. Imagine if Bey (or Gaga or Brit in her prime for that matter) collaborated with a man who beat her to a pulp three years earlier. Or imagine if she was constantly photographed smoking weed and getting "thug life" tattoos. There would be a HUGE public outcry. But that just isn't the case for Rihanna. The public wants her catchy songs and that's it. Her pull as a public figure just isn't as strong as those ladies.

!

[thewaitinggame]

Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter

Stop with the Forbes nonsense? Who do you think even mentions social rank/power etc like Youtube/Facebook/Vevo etc? ONLY Forbes, and Rihanna still fails to place higher than Beyoncé even when Beyoncé is doing nothing.

Sir, the data speaks for itself and it's there for us all to see. You will not find Beyonce ahead of Rihanna on Youtube/Facebook/Twitter/Vevo or any other medium of media attention. The numbers are there - do I have to go copy and paste for you? You won't, because none of it is in favor of Beyonce, all you can say is "Forbes told me so!11"

[Ascension]

Beyonce. Her receipts have been continuously printing off the spool since 1997.

Rihanna has a lot to prove. She's commercially inconsistent (yes, I'm talking about the USA; not here to debate back and forth about random countries where you can sell 46 albums and go Diamond) and doesn't seem to take her craft seriously at all. And not to mention her reckless DGAF attitude and behavior. Some people may think that loose cannon is exciting and cute, but, it doesn't bode well at all for longevity. All it takes is ONE **** up, at the wrong time -- like Janet, for instance.

[Mélina]

Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter

And Facebook likes, Fashion Magazines (whatever that means) and mostly other things that don't involve spending money.



Stop with the Forbes nonsense? Who do you think even mentions social rank/power etc like Youtube/Facebook/Vevo etc? ONLY Forbes, and Rihanna still fails to place higher than Beyoncé even when Beyoncé is doing nothing.

All those things are measured yet she still fails to place. Fail of the highest degree.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

Sir, the data speaks for itself and it's there for us all to see. You will not find Beyonce ahead of Rihanna on Youtube/Facebook/Twitter/Vevo or any other medium of media attention. The numbers are there - do I have to go copy and paste for you? You won't, because none of it is in favor of Beyonce, all you can say is "Forbes told me so!11"

And yet Forbes still says no. Y'all have been saying Rihanna eclipsed Bey since the GGGB era. Like no.

Originally posted by Mélina

All those things are measured yet she still fails to place. Fail of the highest degree.

!!!!

[Icing]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

Rihanna has eclipsed Beyonce in every medium.

Twitter (Personal) - Rihanna

Trend.

Youtube (Music Videos) - Rihanna

Trend.

Facebook (General Public) - Rihanna

Trend.

Tabloids - Rihanna

Blue Ivy might have something to say about that.

Fashion Magazines - Rihanna

When does Bey have time for shoots these days? And what fashion magazines are gonna feature candids of a damn mother bearing child?

Music Charts - Rihanna

And trend.

There is simply no argument to be had in any sort basis in fact otherwise.

Rihanna's persona is meant to please the masses...the catchy dance songs about sex and drinking and the edgy don't give a **** attitude. She's the cool person to like on Facebook and follow on twitter. None of it says anything about her actual staying power. I honestly fear for the girl's relevance if she has a total dud of an era, one without a Rude Boy to save it. An artist's true star power is always shown when they're totally tanking, a la Bey and Madonna.

[thewaitinggame]

Beyonce stan logic

Anyway ATRL polls are very important to you all these days, and I don't mean to take it away from you. So carry on.

[Mélina]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

Beyonce stan logic

Anyway ATRL polls are very important to you all these days, and I don't mean to take it away from you. So carry on.

You actually only made the Navy look worse.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by Icing

Trend.



Trend.



Trend.



Blue Ivy might have something to say about that.



When does Bey have time for shoots these days? And what fashion magazines are gonna feature candids of a damn mother bearing child?



And trend.



Rihanna's persona is meant to please the masses...the catchy dance songs about sex and drinking and the edgy don't give a **** attitude. She's the cool person to like on Facebook and follow on twitter. None of it says anything about her actual staying power. I honestly fear for the girl's relevance if she has a total dud of an era, one without a Rude Boy to save it. An artist's true star power is always shown when they're totally tanking, a la Bey and Madonna.

Thank you.

I mean when people are talking about legendary artists or artists that go down in history do you see them bragging about Facebook likes, Twitter followers, Vevo views, etc? Rihanna stans always fail to see the bigger picture.

[thewaitinggame]

Originally posted by Mélina

You actually only made the Navy look worse.

Can you post a Forbes quote to prove that I did?

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter

Yes yes I know. All of our faves had sold out the 02 Arena. And the biggest festival (which Bey headlined) has already come and gone

[TheRealBabyDre]

Originally posted by ♔Drais Ivy Carter

Thank you.

I mean when people are talking about legendary artists or artists that go down in history do you see them bragging about Facebook likes, Twitter followers, Vevo views, etc? Rihanna stans always fail to see the bigger picture.

Maybe her forehead got in their sight !

[Deuces]

Not a Rihanna stan trying to come for our logic when there are a plethora of SYG receipts of them using poor logic.

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

Rihanna has eclipsed Beyonce in every medium.

Twitter (Personal) - Rihanna
Youtube (Music Videos) - Rihanna
Facebook (General Public) - Rihanna
Tabloids - Rihanna
Fashion Magazines - Rihanna
Music Charts - Rihanna

There is simply no argument to be had in any sort basis in fact otherwise.

There are Fashion Magazines Rihanna hasn't covered that Beyonce covered more than Twice

[Mélina]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

Can you post a Forbes quote to prove that I did?

Can you type some 'facts' that you didn't?