[Eternium]

Originally posted by theus231

Fearless in probably her biggest era in the states but worldwide, she just gets bigger and bigger.

Taylor has shrunk considerably from 2008's Fearless GLOBALLY. She has consistently gained success outside of the U.S., but none of her albums have smashed WW like Fearless.

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

Why do you keep mentioning BOMT? That album came out in 1999... goodness gracious. Taylor is bigger than Britney. Her tours are bigger, her endorsements are bigger, and her sales are bigger. That's all that matters. Media frenzy doesn't mean ANYTHING.. if anything, it's a NEGATIVE thing. People know and appreciate Taylor for her as an artist, not a celebrity. I mean... it's better to have amazing commercial success than being a media fixation with mediocre sales or barely any sales at all. Britney wasn't the massive global superstar like the Army prefers to say she was; it's all nostalgia. She couldn't even sell out arenas and VENUES during her peak. There are receipts to prove this.

Are you trolling with Toxicity now or is this your attempt at being serious? BOMT was Britney's peak. It's crazy how it doesn't count on ATRL but Beyonce's 1999 peak (TWOTW), Shania's COO (1998), Celine's LTAL (1997), Whitney's Bodyguard (1993), etc. count. Heck, Taylor's peak, 2008's Fearless, was now over half a decade ago. Does it also not count?

Britney's sales for BOMT are bigger than Taylor's for Fearless even when you account for TEAs. Even at her peak, Taylor was still only doing about half of what Gaga did globally and she had country support. Taylor is humongous, but she's going to need to at least double her peak before she compares.

Originally posted by pika

It's more of people finding your argument too stupid & laughable to care to argue.

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wow, Taylor's record really is more impressive.

Nnngg, are you still this pressed I pointed out JT wasn't a legend and now you're following me from thread to thread? Yeah, you're clearly the realistic one

[coddiecollins]

Tays recprd is more impressive than brits there is no denying that...but tay lacks everything else..shes got sales..but only that..

[geddymonster]

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

And there is a logical reason for that.

Still not impressive. If Taylor debuted during the same time as Britney, she'd surely be millions ahead of Britney in terms of total album sales.

And you know this how? Taylor probably would have been overshadowed by Shania had she debuted at that time. And if you think that Britney's sales are "mediocre," you are delusional.

[Theus]

Originally posted by newwil7l

Taylor Swift: 6 million
Fearless: 9.5 million
Speak Now: 5.5 million
Red: 6 million

Without the US numbers:

TS: +600k
Fearless: +2.6m
Speak Now: +1.6m
Red: +2.3m



Also Red singles did better than Fearrless outside the United States so it is definetly her biggest era outside of the states so far.

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by Katyanna

Bottom line is Brit album sales is way above Tay's. Deal with it!

Are you guys like erasing the fact that Britney Spears debuted in 1998 and Taylor Swift debuted in 2006?

Originally posted by Eternium

Taylor has shrunk considerably from 2008's Fearless GLOBALLY. She has consistently gained success outside of the U.S., but none of her albums have smashed WW like Fearless.

Are you trolling with Toxicity now or is this your attempt at being serious? BOMT was Britney's peak. It's crazy how it doesn't count on ATRL but Beyonce's 1999 peak (TWOTW), Shania's COO (1998), Celine's LTAL (1997), Whitney's Bodyguard (1993), etc. count. Heck, Taylor's peak, 2008's Fearless, was now over half a decade ago. Does it also not count?

Britney's sales for BOMT are bigger than Taylor's for Fearless even when you account for TEAs. Even at her peak, Taylor was still only doing about half of what Gaga did globally and she had country support. Taylor is humongous, but she's going to need to at least double her peak before she compares.
Nnngg, are you still this pressed I pointed out JT wasn't a legend and now you're following me from thread to thread? Yeah, you're clearly the realistic one

Um no.. I'm not trolling. I am obviously aware that BOMT is Britney's peak, but it's baffling that you're comparing an album's sales that came out in 1999 (where music sales were at its PEAK) to an album from 2008 (where album sales weren't so great). "Fearless" wasn't even Taylor's peak. She's been getting bigger era by era. Taylor debuting with three 1 million openers ALL from the 2010s is way more impressive than Britney debuting with one 1 million opener in 2000. Like I said, "Red," released in 2012, sold 6.3m ww. "In The Zone," released in 2003, sold 8m ww. But you seem to ignore that fact!

[Ozzy8923]

Either way, this is the easiest way to settle it.

Best selling albums of each year (first 4 albums)

Britney:
3° Britney Spears – ...Baby One More Time – 24.000.000 (1999)
3° Britney Spears – Oops!...I Did It Again – 20.500.000 (2000)
4° Britney Spears – Britney – 11.000.000 (2001)
10° Britney Spears – In the Zone – 8.000.000 (2003)

Taylor:
10° Taylor Swift – Taylor Swift – 5.700.000 (2006)
3° Taylor Swift – Fearless – 8.100.000 (2008)
5° Taylor Swift – Speak Now – 5.100.000 (2010)
1° Taylor Swift – Red – 5.100.000 (2012)

Both of them scored their first 4 albums in the top ten best selling of each year, both with similar peak positions. Britney scored her fourth top ten best selling album 5 years after her first, Taylor scored hers six years after her first.

As for singles, Britney's scored her first #1 in 1998 and her second in 2008. Taylor scored her first in 2012 and her second in 2014. Given, Britney got her first quicker, but Taylor got her second quicker so they both balance out.

Geez, y'all gotta make everything complicated. Was that so hard? I'd say their peaks are pretty tied.

[pika]

Originally posted by Eternium

Nnngg, are you still this pressed I pointed out JT wasn't a legend and now you're following me from thread to thread? Yeah, you're clearly the realistic one

Um, yeah this would sorta make since if you didn't sweatily (and randomly) say 'holy ****! I always knew you were a misogynist! " a day ago. And still nobody cares or takes your psychotic '1 million debut, so impressive for 2000 " posts seriously.

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Taylor.

[geddymonster]

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

Are you guys like erasing the fact that Britney Spears debuted in 1998 and Taylor Swift debuted in 2006?



Um no.. I'm not trolling. I am obviously aware that BOMT is Britney's peak, but it's baffling that you're comparing an album's sales that came out in 1999 (where music sales were at its PEAK) to an album from 2008 (where album sales weren't so great). "Fearless" wasn't even Taylor's peak. She's been getting bigger era by era. Taylor debuting with three 1 million openers ALL from the 2010s is way more impressive than Britney debuting with one 1 million opener in 2000. Like I said, "Red," released in 2012, sold 6.3m ww. "In The Zone," released in 2003, sold 8m ww. But you seem to ignore that fact!

If anything, it is imoressive that In The Zone, a very sexual and mature album, was able to sell more than Red, an album that caters to all ages, regardless of when the albums were released. Britney cut off a huge part of her demographic by releasing a mature album like In The Zone, yet her sales were still very strong. Red appealed to the same demographics that Taylor had since the start of her career.