[DG1]

Originally posted by Kworb

You could buy tickets for the whole weekend and her concert would be part of it. So then how do you decide what % of those tickets is added to her gross? That's the whole problem with including festivals.

The large majority were probably single tickets though, so for this one it doesn't matter that much. I see they reported a gross to Billboard as well.

Yes, but the thing with the BET Experience is that it was a part of the MCS, not really a festival. For e.g. the other dates had multiple performers at the Staples Center, but Bey's was the only performer on her date. It was promoted as the start of the MCS and thus it counts as part of it. And those bundle dates were VIP, I'm not even sure if that was reported.

[PhreshIn]

Originally posted by DG1

Pollstar said what they reported is correct. I'm glad that they are remaining the professionals here and sticking by their figures. Great numbers for Rihanna, I don't know why the Navy can't be happy for their girl.

Girl stop it
Rihannas 6 Stadiums will gross more than 14 shows of the arenaact.

[RudeBoyy]

Originally posted by DG1

Pollstar said what they reported is correct. I'm glad that they are remaining the professionals here and sticking by their figures. Great numbers for Rihanna, I don't know why the Navy can't be happy for their girl.

They admitted they were false, took down the imaginary dates for her tour and are now sticking by their word since they can't come up with better ones.

They're trying to save face.

[Ady.]

Originally posted by DG1

Pollstar said what they reported is correct. I'm glad that they are remaining the professionals here and sticking by their figures. Great numbers for Rihanna, I don't know why the Navy can't be happy for their girl.

They probably won't change it 'cause it's all over internet now. But they just said on Twitter that some venues probably didn't report to them.

[DG1]

Originally posted by RudeBoyy

They admitted they were false, took down the imaginary dates for her tour and are now sticking by their word since they can't come up with better ones.

They're trying to save face.

Those imaginary dates weren't a part of the list though. Those fake concert dates happen to a lot of artists all the time on those sites, on YouTube, on eventful etc. Just like they had that Gaga/Bey concert mess.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Kworb

I think it's clear that's what they do because P!nk and Gaga also have dates missing in their total gross/attendance, and he admitted Rihanna's rank would be "stronger".

Then there are other problems with the list, for example Eros Ramazzotti is listed with 11 shows, even though he has done 42.

Hmm, in that case I just don't get why he'd even bother referring to it as "estimating." If you are only reporting the hard numbers that you get from promoters/managers what is there to estimate? Mess.

It's pretty ****ing stupid of them to list the full amount of shows/cities someone actually toured in and use that to calculate an average from partial gross/attendance data. If they only listed the number of shows/cities they actually have the numbers for that'd be fine.

[Shelter]

LMAO which one of you is this?

Eloise ‏@EloiseRihannavy 6m

@RihannaLately I am staying sleepless and I am contacting all their box office workers to get those estimations.This is tiring.

I mean does it really matter?

[RudeBoyy]

Pollstar hsould of just reported what billboard did.

[Ady.]

Originally posted by DG1

Those imaginary dates weren't a part of the list though. Those fake concert dates happen to a lot of artists all the time on those sites, on YouTube, on eventful etc. Just like they had that Gaga/Bey concert mess.

They actually reported 32 shows on that chart while she did 31 dates in North America, for example.

[Ady.]

Originally posted by Shelter

LMAO which one of you is this?

Eloise ‏@EloiseRihannavy 6m

@RihannaLately I am staying sleepless and I am contacting all their box office workers to get those estimations.This is tiring.

I mean does it really matter?

Lol one girl on Twitter... but she doesn't have acc here.

[Bey'Knight]

Originally posted by Riha'love

Billboard reported boxscores:

March 8, 2013 Buffalo First Niagara Center 15,614 / 15,614 $1,117,147
March 14, 2013 Philadelphia Wells Fargo Center 15,095 / 15,095 $1,080,298
March 15, 2013 Hartford XL Center 10,985 / 10,985 $842,941
March 17, 2013 Montreal Canada Bell Centre 16,054 / 16,054 $1,278,497
March 18, 2013 & March 19, 2013 Toronto Air Canada Centre 32,038 / 32,038 $2,498,532 (2/2)
March 21, 2013 Detroit United States Joe Louis Arena 15,349 / 15,349 $937,674
March 22, 2013 Chicago United Center 15,902 / 15,902 $1,234,380
March 24, 2013 St. Paul Xcel Energy Center 10,929 / 10,929 $780,143
March 25, 2013 Winnipeg Canada MTS Centre 10,649 / 10,649 $880,893
March 27, 2013 Edmonton Rexall Place 13,133 / 13,133 $1,008,532
March 30, 2013 Calgary Scotiabank Saddledome 13,495 / 13,495 $1,012,286
April 1, 2013 Vancouver Rogers Arena 14,879 / 14,879 $1,153,688
April 3, 2013 Seattle United States KeyArena 10,906 / 10,906 $782,027
April 6, 2013 San Jose HP Pavilion 14,027 / 14,027 $1,047,778
April 8, 2013 Los Angeles Staples Center 14,882 / 14,882 $1,297,755
April 9, 2013 Anaheim Honda Center 11,050 / 11,050 $950,442
April 11, 2013 San Diego Valley View Casino Center 11,831 / 11,831 $899,782
April 12, 2013 Las Vegas Mandalay Bay 8,861 / 8,861 $1,047,675
April 19, 2013 Tampa Tampa Bay Times Forum 11,705 / 11,705 $901,024
April 20, 2013 Fort Lauderdale BankAtlantic Center 13,959 / 13,959 $1,042,363
April 22, 2013 Atlanta Philips Arena 13,233 / 13,233 $924,581
April 24, 2013 Baltimore 1st Mariner Arena 11,002 / 11,002 $788,340
April 26, 2013 Atlantic City Revel Resort 4,391 /4,391 $515,641
April 28, 2013 Newark Prudential Center 13,999 / 13,999 $1,215,879
April 29, 2013 Washington, D.C. Verizon Center 14,339 / 14,339 $1,185,020
May 1, 2013 Montreal Canada Bell Centre 14,028 / 14,028 $1,190,028
May 2, 2013 Ottawa Scotiabank Place 11,990 / 11,990 $852,724
May 5, 2013 & May 7, 2013 New York City United States Barclays Center 29.072 / 29.072 $2,465,993 (2/2)
May 6, 2013 Boston TD Garden 14,083 / 14,083 $1,061,548

Total attendants: 407,480 / 407,480
Total grossing: 31,993,611 $



Is there something incredibely high??? NO.

The European Leg is doing well so shut up with "something to hide"

That attendance is some bull. Even navy members that went commented on empty seats at certain venues. She doesnt even have 100% attendance in her so-called strongest market never mind stateside

[YoYo]

How would you even "estimate" attendance when you have no data available? lol

[dposton]

Wait , let me get this f.u.c.k.i.n.g straight. The Beyhive ACTUALLY f.u.c.k.i.n.g thinks Beyonce did Better than Rihanna in ****ing Europe???????????

Even i can figure out that Rihanna's ****ing stadiums grosses are going to **** up her numbers Hilarious.

[Ady.]

Originally posted by Bey'Knight

That attendance is some bull. Even navy members that went commented on empty seats at certain venues. She doesnt even have 100% attendance in her so-called strongest market never mind stateside

So you are saying Pollstar is more reliable than Billboard?

[jackieshann]

Originally posted by dposton

Wait , let me get this f.u.c.k.i.n.g straight. The Beyhive ACTUALLY f.u.c.k.i.n.g thinks Beyonce did Better than Rihanna in ****ing Europe???????????

Even i can figure out that Rihanna's ****ing stadiums grosses are going to **** up her numbers Hilarious.

calm down

[dposton]

The Beyhive thinks that Beyonce's 26k average per show can be rationalized against Rihanna's 13k average in ****ING EUROPE?????????????

[dposton]

WHY WHY WHY This **** is the funniest thing I've seen.

But wait.....theyre counting festivals too????? What venue did Beyonce perform at that had a 26-30k maximum capacity more than 50% of her dates? I didnt know she was doing stadiums too.

[RudeBoyy]

Originally posted by YoYo

How would you even "estimate" attendance when you have no data available? lol

You say

"Lets see, for the 5 (example) dates we know about Ke$ha (example grossed) 2.5 million and had 25,000 people there. So that must mean Ke$ha's 50 dates grossed 25 million, and she had 250,000 fans there.

The onyl way thsi won't work is if they sample an artist dates from a week market and then don't factor in the fact that their tickets are more expensive over seas in their STADIUMS!

[dposton]

Originally posted by Bey'Knight

That attendance is some bull. Even navy members that went commented on empty seats at certain venues. She doesnt even have 100% attendance in her so-called strongest market never mind stateside

Just like beyonce's 26k /show average and tour gross that includes festivals Wait for dat billboard to give a PER SHOW BREAKDOWN

[RudeBoyy]

In all honestly though, since when did Beyonce perform for 26k people on average?
Since when was her gross average 2.4 million?

Her fans were bragging it was 1.5 million up until today...