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ATRL: 14 year old suspended for saying Homosexuality is wrong.
Member Since: 2/6/2010
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It was wrong of them to suspend this kid.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Well not everyone in life is gonna hold your exact belief system, sorry.
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Same goes for the Christians and erryone else.
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I didn't say you did. But plenty of people do, it's seen as perfectly ok whereas bashing Islam, Judaism, etc etc. it seen as racist or offensive. Why aren't Jesus-phobes entirely banished from the land for their opinion?
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
Posts: 5,259
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
Okay but in a German class, all this discussion of beliefs just creates tension. When you argue with christians about gay marriage, all it leads to is hatred and confusion. At the end of the day, people should keep their beliefs to themselves.
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Yeah, but that's just a basically school issue. At most, the punishment should have been a quick slap on the wrist for unrelated chatting in class.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Yeah, but that's just a basically school issue. At most, the punishment should have been a quick slap on the wrist for unrelated chatting in class.
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I agree, the suspension was a little much if he wasn't harassing anybody.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
Posts: 5,259
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Same goes for the Christians and erryone else.
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Exactly. So next time someone says something like this, instead of getting upset, why not challenge their beliefs and have a nice debate about it?
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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If he had said being black was wrong, there would be no doubt of his suspension. Think about the gay kid in that class (there is at least one) who has to sit in silence while hearing one of his peers say he thinks he's wrong for being gay.
He should be suspended. I applaud the teacher for stepping in and not letting the situation get out of hand. Bullying is a serious issue and until we as a society take it as such, there will be several more unfortunate and unnecessary suicides in our school system.
I believe this is why, within the next 5-10 years, gay history will be taught in all schools. Understanding a culture is the best way to grow tolerance and prevent this type of bigoted outlook towards contributing members to our and every other society.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
Posts: 11,151
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If some of you are advocating that it's OK to suspend children from school because they say homosexuality is wrong, than you're also implying its ok to ban gay children from school.
It's funny how some people are the first to start typing novels about gay pride and how one should have the right to express their sexuality because "love is love" or whatever and how its justified by the 1st Amendment that grants Americans freedom of speech and expression, but at the same time, you contradict yourselves and oppose that when its the reverse, which is under the SAME right.
That school/superintendent/whoever is looking to lose their job and possibly have a heavy lawsuit on their hands. You can't violate an individual's rights like that. Some of you need to get your heads out of your rear ends and think logically rather than emotionally.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
If he had said being black was wrong, there would be no doubt of his suspension. Think about the gay kid in that class (there is at least one) who has to sit in silence while hearing one of his peers say he thinks he's wrong for being gay.
He should be suspended. I applaud the teacher for stepping in and not letting the situation get out of hand. Bullying is a serious issue and until we as a society take it as such, there will be several more unfortunate and unnecessary suicides in our school system.
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This was not bullying. Not even close.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
Posts: 37,894
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No one should be given any type of punishment for calmly stating their beliefs, especially not in a class discussion. He's 14, so like a freshman in High School, right? Definitely not.
Anyone who disagrees is just ****ing wrong, ain't no opinions about it.
Wait, was that a little too blunt?
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Exactly. So next time someone says something like this, instead of getting upset, why not challenge their beliefs and have a nice debate about it?
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Like those ever end up looking pretty.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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Originally posted by Thisisit
This was not bullying. Not even close.
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Gradua10n brought up a good point, though.
If someone said being black or white (or beige, chola or orient made. ) was wrong, would it be seen as the same or worse? Either way, you're saying that someone is wrong for something they cannot change about themselves.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
If he had said being black was wrong, there would be no doubt of his suspension. Think about the gay kid in that class (there is at least one) who has to sit in silence while hearing one of his peers say he thinks he's wrong for being gay.
He should be suspended. I applaud the teacher for stepping in and not letting the situation get out of hand. Bullying is a serious issue and until we as a society take it as such, there will be several more unfortunate and unnecessary suicides in our school system.
I believe this is why, within the next 5-10 years, gay history will be taught in all schools. Understanding a culture is the best way to grow tolerance and prevent this type of bigoted outlook towards contributing members to our and every other society.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
Posts: 27,892
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Originally posted by NE.
If some of you are advocating that it's OK to suspend children from school because they say homosexuality is wrong, than you're also implying its ok to ban gay children from school.
It's funny how some people are the first to start typing novels about gay pride and how one should have the right to express their sexuality because "love is love" or whatever and how its justified by the 1st Amendment that grants Americans freedom of speech and expression, but at the same time, you contradict yourselves and oppose that when its the reverse.
That school/superintendent/whoever is looking to lose their job and possibly have a heavy lawsuit on their hands. You can't violate an individual's rights like that. Some of you need to get your heads out of your rear ends and think logically rather than emotionally.
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Nothing but the truth.
I am actually pleasantly surprised at the amount of people in this thread not being delusional.
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Originally posted by Thisisit
This was not bullying. Not even close.
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So we're supposed to allow someone to enter the world as an adult with the belief that being gay is "wrong"? I think that is more morally reprehensible than suspending the kid. Obviously suspension isn't the best solution (as it does nothing to change his beliefs) but some type of education needs to be put in place. We can't allow children to repeat the same mistakes previous generations have made.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
So we're supposed to allow someone to enter the world as an adult with the belief that being gay is "wrong"? I think that is more morally reprehensible than suspending the kid. Obviously suspension isn't the best solution (as it does nothing to change his beliefs) but some type of education needs to be put in place. We can't allow children to repeat the same mistakes previous generations have made.
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This this this.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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He shouldn't have been suspended. He said it in a nice way, and didn't call them disgusting or anything else offending. If he said something like "gays can go to he'll", I would understand. And this is how most Christians are, they like gays (well, the good Christians), but maybe just not really what they do.
But why were they were talking about religion in the first place? It could get ugly.....
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
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Originally posted by Quiqui4eva
But why were they were talking about religion in the first place? It could get ugly.....
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Exactly.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
Posts: 11,151
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Originally posted by Quiqui4eva
But why were they were talking about religion in the first place? It could get ugly.....
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That's already violating ANOTHER constitutional law. In public schools religion can only be spoken from a neutral point of view.
I went to private Christian schools my whole life, so I was used to hearing religious talk every day though.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 28,420
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That's a little much. In school, there were kids who would scream "*******" IN CLASS in front of the teacher to other students, and they weren't even given demerits.
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