Oh please. The Monsters used to always pull the Youtube receipts out when Bad Romance was the #1 most viewed video of all time. Now that a slur of videos have passed it you all act like you're above it.
The total amount of Youtube views increase every year. For example, Scream & Shout has more Youtube views than TikTok, (also huge in 2010 like Telephone), so I guess it's bigger than TikTok too then right? Use some logic please.
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The sales are in favor of Scream & Shout, and no amount of inflation from your fanbase will change that.
Where are your stats? Telephone sold 7.5 million copies as of December, 2010. There's no inflation here honey: http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2011.pdf, page 13. Doubt S & S will ever sell that much.
Can someone explain why people are bringing up impact? Impact has nothing to do with the success of a song use some common sense.
Telephone is the bigger hit right now, but I believe S&S will end up more successful. But as someone's said before, its success doesn't determine which is the better song.
And let's remember that Telephone has been out for 2 years, while S&S hasn't even reached a year yet.
Bigger hit =/= bigger album sales. Examples of this faulty logic:
1. Video Games was a bigger hit than Call Me Maybe, just because Born To Die sold more than Kiss.
That's impressive and all except Video Games itself didn't sell much. They cannot be compared at all
Meanwhile Telephone helped TFM sell 14 million copies according to Duca, in addition to selling 7.4 million copies itself in 2010 and ranking as the 4th best selling song of 2010. S&S is just selling singles, and probably won't even sell much more than Telephone did, if at all, while Telephone's success is split between it's single sales and the TFM album sales.
The fact that videos today can reach a billion views as opposed to the top video in early 2010 having perhaps 350 million kind of shows why S&S's views might be higher. The Internet grows with time, especially in this age.
The gap between 2010 and 2012/2013 in digital sales is pretty significant, and yet it seems as though S&S will still not top Telephone worldwide. I think it's obvious, then, which was truly the bigger hit relative to the rest of the industry during each song's respective peak.
There is a gap, but I really doubt it was "pretty significant". I'm getting 8% increase in revenue and 17% increase in # of purchases (including albums, which are increasing at a much higher rate than singles). And according to the charts Duca posted, S&S is already bigger comparatively.
The total amount of Youtube views increase every year. For example, Scream & Shout has more Youtube views than TikTok, (also huge in 2010 like Telephone), so I guess it's bigger than TikTok too then right? Use some logic please.
I'm sorry but you surely can't be asking anyone to use "logic" after this comment:
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
Scream & Shout has more Youtube views than Thriller, so I guess it's a bigger hit than Thriller has ever been.
Well, REALISTIC logic tells me that Thriller was released decades ago when the freaking INTERNET wasn't even around, let alone Youtube so the views don't count for ****. Telephone was released when digital sales and the digital media was thriving yet you insist on digging up something from years ago to put down S&S it's YT success.
This is when I stop using you, Jolie.
Anyway, to answer the question.
I think they're on the same level for now. Meh.
The total amount of Youtube views increase every year. For example, Scream & Shout has more Youtube views than TikTok, (also huge in 2010 like Telephone), so I guess it's bigger than TikTok too then right? Use some logic please.
Where are your stats? Telephone sold 7.5 million copies as of December, 2010. There's no inflation here honey: http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2011.pdf, page 13. Doubt S & S will ever sell that much. If you don't know what you're talking about, which, no offense, is usually the case with you, then please stop typing.
Wow, you really have a way of misreading everything. The Monsters in here are claiming that Telephone has sold 9 million to date, meaning it would've had to sold an extra 1.6 million copies after 2010, despite it having terrible longevity after it fell off the charts. That is what I meant by "inflation" dear, you might want to read my posts over before you decide to comment, it'll help clear things up a lot!
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The total amount of Youtube views increase every year.
Obviously, but Bad Romance alone got over 200 million views in 2010, and 'Baby' getting the same amount as well if I recall correctly, so I'm not exactly getting your point there. If Telephone was this gigantic, massively hyped, iconic video you Monsters speak of, I'd expect more people to be watching it than a video that premiered 3 months ago. We're in the digital age after all. And I won't even bother touching your argument about Ke$ha when she was never a Youtube monster to begin with, nor did anyone like the Tik Tok video. If you want people to use some logic, you might want to as well. Just a thought!
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Where are your stats?
Duca already posted them (you probably ignored them like you always do when it comes to people that are more successful than Gaga), but S&S is going #1, top 5, and top 3 in more countries than Telephone ever did and proving to have an outstanding amount of longevity. Britney and Will win here, sorry!